[1. Call to order] [00:00:07] >> YOU WILL LET ME KNOW WHEN WE ARE ALIVE? >> WE ARE LIVE, THEY HAVE SHIFTED TO THE COMPUTER SCREEN, WE ARE READY TO GO. >> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER OUR STUDY SESSION ON DECEMBER 3, 2022. FOUR BOARD MEMBERS CURRENTLY ACCOUNTED FOR. THE FIFTH HAS AN ABSENCE AT THIS POINT WILL HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO JOIN US. PLEASE NOTE WE HAVE SCRIPTED TO REMOTE FOR TRAVEL CONDITIONS AND GETTING TO THE CENTER THIS POINT. WITH THAT I LIKE TO BEGIN THE STUDY SESSION TODAY, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE TOP OF ONE IS THE BOARD SELF-ASSESSMENT. AND TO GO OVER THAT AS WELL WITH GOAL BEING TO REALLY BUILD THOSE OBJECTIVES AND SEE WHAT THE BOARD WAS TO FOCUS ON AN UPCOMING YEAR. AS WELL, THE NEXT STEP AFTER LUNCH OR AFTER BREAK DEPENDING WHERE OUR TIME IS AT THAT POINT, WE WILL MOVE INTO DISCUSSING THE PROJECT AND LEVY. I SEE THAT DR. HOLMEN HAS HIS HAND UP. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY PATRONS KNOW THAT THE RESOURCE CENTER IS OPEN.T IS AVAILABLE SHOULD ANYONE WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OPEN PUBLIC MEETING HER IN SIGHT. THEY WOULD JUST VIEW THE MEETING ON THE SCREEN IN THE ROOM BUT IT IS OPEN AND AVAILABLE. >> WONDERFUL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING SO. WE APPRECIATE YOU PUTTING IT FORWARD. WITH THAT, I THINK I'LL HAND THIS OFF TO SANDY, A CONSULTANT AND HELPS TO LEAD DIFFERENT GROUPS AND WORK WITH WORDS BUT ALSO NORTH SHORE BOARD MEMBER. MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW FROM THERE. ALSO OUR PLEASANT ELECT AT THIS POINT IN TIME OFFICIALLY. WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAND IT OFF TO SANDY. ALSO BELIEVE THAT I SEE MARK JOINING [1. Board Assessment] US. >> BRIEFLY. >> WONDERFUL! THANK YOU. >> DEPENDING HELLO MY BATTERY LASTS. >> ALL FIVE ARE NOW PRESENT IN THAT REGARD. I WILL HAND IT OFF TO SANDY SO WE CAN BEGIN OUR DAY! >> GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU. YES, I BELIEVE I SPENT TIME WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, SO, I WILL DISPENSE WITH THE INTRODUCTION TO MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THE SECRET IS OUT, I DON'T AND SO, WE WILL JUST MOVE RIGHT ALONG! SO, GIVEN THAT WE ARE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SPACE, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH JUST A LITTLE ICEBREAKER EXERCISE TO GET US REACQUAINTED WITH THE VIRTUAL WORLD. IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE HAD TO OPERATE IN THIS SPACE. FULL TRANSPARENCY, FROM ICEBREAKERS THAT DON'T SUCK, HAD TO DO TOO MANY IS AN URGENT WORLD LIKE NO, NOT DOING THAT! SORRY. THERE WILL BE NO SCREAMING, DRAMA, NONE OF THAT. SO, YOU WILL FEEL ACCURATE IN A SAFE SPACE PARTICIPATING, IF THAT IS HOW YOU ROLL. THE NAME OF THE GAME IS PANCAKES VERSUS WAFFLES. AND YOU, WE WILL GO AROUND AND WILL THROW JOHN INTO PLAY AS WELL. YOU ARE GOING TO SAY EACH ONE OF YOU, WHETHER WE SHOULD HAVE WAFFLES OR PANCAKES. ANNA GOT ME FOR BREAKFAST. AFTER EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN, WE WILL VOTE AND WHATEVER IS CHOSEN, THE OTHER IS VOTED OFF THE ISLAND. IF EVERYBODY VOTES FOR WAFFLES AND THERE ARE NO PANCAKES, AT ALL. THEN WE WILL ADD ANOTHER ITEM, AND THEN, IT WOULD BE WAFFLES VERSUS THE NEXT ITEM. AND THEN WE WILL DISCUSS WHICH ONE WE PREFER. THE FIRST ONE IS NOT AS IMPORTANT BUT ONE OF THE RANDOM WORDS IS ROADS, AND REMOTE ROADS OFTEN LATER, IF CARS COMES UP, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, WE DON'T HAVE ROADS. ONCE WE GET GOING, YOU'LL SEE HOW THIS WORKS. I AM GOING TO USE THE CIRCLE AND SQUARES ON A SCREEN. AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE HARDER BECAUSE I DON'T ALWAYS MATCH. BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW HOW I'M CHOOSING. WE'LL START WITH ERIC. SO, WHICH DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD KEEP, WAFFLES OR PANCAKES? >> PANCAKES. >> OKAY AND YOU CAN SAY WHY. >> I NEED TO MAKE A CASE FOR PANCAKES? >> YES, YOU DO. >> OKAY. THEY'RE JUST THE SUPERIOR FOOD FOR SHARING AMONG A GROUP OF PEOPLE. >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT! PANCAKES VERSUS WAFFLES? >> WAFFLES. BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST MORE FUN [00:05:01] BECAUSE YOU CAN PUT DIFFERENT FLAVORING IN EACH SQUARE IF YOU STILL WANT. >> ALL RIGHT! JOHN? >> I'M GOING PANCAKES. BECAUSE THE ABILITY TO ADD OTHER ELEMENTS TO PANCAKES, IT FITS MORE WITH MY MENTAL MODEL THEN ADDING APPLES AND WALNUTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO WAFFLES. I AM DEFINITELY GOING PANCAKES. >> OKAY, AND BY THE WAY, I'M HOPING OKAY IF I USE YOUR FIRST NAMES? JUST BECAUSE THIS IS A LITTLE INTIMATE SETTING. CHRISTOPHER OR CHRIS? WHICH DO YOU PREFER? >> ONLY CHRISTOPHER IF I'M IN TROUBLE. >> OKAY, WE WILL USE CHRIS. >> I'M STRONGLY ON THE PANCAKES BECAUSE I HATE WAFFLE MAKERS, THEY ARE A WASTE OF SPACE IN MY KITCHEN. >> GREAT! LEAH. >> I AM GOING WITH WAFFLES. AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE -- >> YOU ARE ON MUTE. >> OKAY. I SAID, I WOULD GO WITH WAFFLES AND THE REASON IS THAT THERE IS ALSO A LOT OF, A LOT OF VARIABILITY WITH PANCAKES. I FEEL LIKE THERE HAS BEEN SOME REALLY GOOD ONES, AND SOME REALLY BAD ONES. WHEREAS WAFFLES, SEEM A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. MARK, WHICH DO YOU PREFER? >> POP TARTS. >> WHAT DID HE SAY? >> POP TARTS. >> POP TARTS IS NOT ONE OF THE CHOICES. >> THAT'S NO FAIR. >> THIS IS HOW YOU OPERATE AS A BOARD. AN EXERCISE THAT GIVES ME INSIGHT AND YOU ARE OPTING TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT AN OPTION! [LAUGHTER] >> PANCAKES. THEY CAN BE ANY SHAPE YOU WANT THEM.> OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY SO, WE ARE GOING TO DO A VOICE VOTE, AND SAID ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING PANCAKES -- WE WILL DO, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU ARE A FAVORITE OF KEEPING PANCAKES. AND I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT I JUST HEARD MARK SAY. LOOK AT THAT.ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE FOUR PANCAKES. THE PANCAKES STAY! ALL RIGHT, NOW, JUST TO EXPLAIN AGAIN, WHERE THE WORDS COME FROM, I JUST DID A RANDOM WORD GENERATOR, AND TOOK OUT ANYTHING INAPPROPRIATE. AND I KEPT THE REST BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME THAT I SAID WE ARE NOT DOING THAT, THAT WILL PRODUCE WEIRD CONVERSATIONS. PANCAKES HAVE STAYED, WE WILL HAVE PANCAKES VERSUS GLUE. THE ADHESIVE THAT YOU USED TO STICK THINGS TOGETHER. AND WE WILL START WITH SIRI THIS TIME. >> I THINK I WOULD KEEP GLUE. BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER FOODS AND I DON'T REALLY NEED PANCAKES. I NEVER EAT PANCAKES. I AM GOOD WITH KEEPING GLUE THAT I DO USE ON A PRETTY REGULAR BASIS. >> OKAY, JOHN? >> I AM GOING GLUE. AS A FORMER TEACHER, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF GLUE EATEN AND IT IS CONCEIVABLE. AND SO IT CAN BE CALORIE. >> OKAY, CHRIS? >> NOW I'M GETTING INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S GLUE, EPOXY, SUPERGLUE, WHERE ARE WE DRAWING THE LINE? BECAUSE I CAN GET BY WITHOUT ELMER'S GLUE. BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH ANY OF THE ADHESIVE, THAT'S A PROBLEM. SO, I RELUCTANTLY IN FAVOR OF KEEPING GLUE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE VAGUELY WORDED CONCEPT. >> OKAY! LEAH? >> DEFINITELY GLUE. [LAUGHTER] >> ALL RIGHT, MARK, ARE YOU STILL WITH US? >> I THINK YOU DROPPED OFF. >> OKAY, ERIC? >> PANCAKES. BECAUSE, I DON'T KNOW. MY CHILDREN MAKE LESS OF A MESS WITH THOSE THEN GLUE. >> OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO VOTE, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING GLUE. ALL RIGHT, GLUE STAYS. SO, THE NEXT ONE IS GLUE VERSUS [00:10:10] GRASS. AS IN THE GREEN STUFF THAT YOU HAVE TO MOW ON A REGULAR BASIS. THIS TIME, WE WILL START WITH JOHN. >> I'M GOING GLUE. THERE'S ALTERNATIVE TO GRASS, THAT WHILE NOT MY FAVORITE, THERE ARE SOME ALTERNATIVES. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ALTERNATIVES TO FIXING THINGS TO ONE ANOTHER. SUCH AS GLUE PROPERTIES. >> OKAY, THANK YOU, CHRIS? >> I'M GOING WITH GLUE, WHAT JOHN SAID. >> AND LEAH. >> I THINK I HAVE TO GO GRASS. MAINLY BECAUSE WITHOUT GRASS, I FEEL LIKE THERE WOULD BE A MASS EXTINCTION OF A LOT OF ANIMALS THAT EAT GRASS. >> OKAY, ERIC? >> GLUE, I HAVE NO REASON. >> OKAY, SIRI? >> I WAS GOING GLUE BUT HAVE TO ADMIT, LEO'S COMMENT ABOUT THE ANIMALS HAVING TO EAT GRASS, THAT'S ALL THEY DO. BECAUSE I'M PUTTING GRASS IN THE BIG AREA. ALFALFA, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. I THINK I HAVE TO GO WITH GRASS BECAUSE ANIMALS SHOULD LIVE! -- I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT. >> OKAY GREAT! WE WILL VOTE IN THE CHAT. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF GLUE, RAISE YOUR HAND IN THE CHAT. OKAY. I WAS GOING TO SAY SIRI! [LAUGHTER] OKAY, GREAT! >> I DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION WHAT YOU ACTUALLY SAID I JUST RAISED MY HAND. >> NO WORRIES! THAT WAS GOOD, THAT WAS GREAT. SO, GRASS STAYS. AND WE ARE GOING TO GO, LET'S DO ANOTHER ROUND OR TWO. NOW, WE WILL DO GRASS VERSUS DOGS. AND CHRIS, WE WILL START WITH YOU THIS TIME. >> DEFINITELY GRASS. BECAUSE I'M NOT A DOG PERSON. >> OKAY! LEAH. >> THIS IS TOO HARD! I HAVE A DOG, [LAUGHTER] >> I HAVE A DOG. >> AND YOU ARE NOT A DOG PERSON? >> RIGHT. I AM NOT A DOG PERSON. >> OKAY. I FEEL LIKE, THERE IS MORE ANIMALS THAT EAT GRASS, THEN THERE ARE DOGS. SO I'LL GO WITH GRASS. >> OKAY, ERIC? >> GRASS. DO I NEED TO MAKE A REASON? I DON'T -- MY DR. UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TWO NIGHTS AGO SO -- -- >> OKAY, SIRI? >> THIS SHOULD BE CONSISTENT NT WITH THE LAST ONE, HAVE TO GO WITH GRASS BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH I LOVE DOGS, THERE ANIMALS THAT DEPEND UPON GRASS. >> OKAY! >> NOT MANY DOGS. [LAUGHTER] >> I AM ALSO NOT A DOG PERSON AND I HAVE TWO DOGS. [LAUGHTER] >> I AM ACTUALLY GOING WITH DOGS BECAUSE I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT ALL ANIMALS, SHIFT AND ADAPT TO THEIR ENVIRONMENT, AND I DON'T BELIEVE ANIMALS WOULD BE EXTINCT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF GRASP POTENTIALLY. THAT IS JUST IN THE MOMENT THINKING. BECAUSE I THINK THEY WOULD ADAPT TO EATING FLOWERS AND MAYBE, LEAVES AND SO, BECAUSE AN EXTENSION OF ONE SPECIES, OVER A HYPOTHESIS MAKES ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE. >> OKAY! [00:15:14] ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING GRASS, RAISE YOUR HAND IN THE CHAT. OKAY, GRASS STAYS. IF MARK IS ABLE TO COME BACK, JUST LET ME KNOW. >> IT IS DEFINITELY A POSSIBILITY, IS CURRENTLY TRYING TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET THE POWER UP. >> GOT IT. >> WITHOUT POWER, HE IS NO INTERNET, HIS PHONE HAS NO WAY TO RECHARGE. HE'S ACTUALLY CONSERVING HIS PHONE UNTIL HE GETS BATTERY BACK. UNTIL HIS GENERATOR IS RUNNING. >> I COMPLETELY RELATE. WE, OUR POWER OUTAGE MOMENT WAS TUESDAY. TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE. >>. [INAUDIBLE] >> YES, YEAH! OKAY. WE WILL DO ONE MORE ROUND, THEN MOVE ON. GRASS MADE IT THROUGH. AND NOW, IT WILL BE GRASS VERSUS COMPUTERS. YOU MOVED AROUND, WE WILL START WITH LEAH THIS TIME. >> DO WE GET TO DEFINE COMPUTERS? [LAUGHTER] >> WE DIDN'T DEFINE GRASS! >> I DIDN'T, AS A BOARD I WAS LIKE WE DO THIS AS AN INDIVIDUAL IN MY AREA? AND I WAS LIKE MY LORD! THIS IS A RANDOM WORD GENERATOR AND IT CAME UP WITH COMPUTER. SO -- >> I WOULD ARGUE THAT OUR PHONES AND TABLETS ARE ALSO, COMPUTERS. CIVILIZATION HAS EXISTED FOR A VERY LONG TIME WITHOUT COMPUTERS. SO I WILL GO WITH GRASS. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. PERFECT! >> DID YOU SAY ERIC? >> YES I DID. >> GRASS. I HATE ZOOM AND TEAMS MEETINGS. THAT'S WHY I LOVE GRASS. [LAUGHTER] >> FOR ENOUGH! JOHN? >> WELL, I WOULD LOVE TO SAY, GET RID OF COMPUTERS. WE HAVE EVOLVED AS A SOCIETY, TO PLACE HER ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING WE DO IS FUNCTIONING BECAUSE OF A COMPUTER. WE HAVE HEAT BECAUSE A COMPUTER, ELECTRICITY, WE HAVE COMMUNICATION, OUR BUSES DRIVE, OUR CARS RUN ON COMPUTERS. WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, WE WOULD BE IN THE 1700S, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY COMPUTER AVAILABLE TO US. WHICH SOME MAY SAY, MIGHT BE A NICE EXPERIENCE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, BUT OUR ENTIRE ECONOMY WOULD SHUT DOWN, SO, I JUST, FOR THAT REASON, I WILL GO WITH COMPUTERS. >> OKAY. >>. [INAUDIBLE] >> I WOULD SKILLET DEBATE ONE MIGHT ARGUE. HOWEVER, I WILL SAY, I THINK I WILL HAVE TO GO WITH COMPUTERS AS WELL. BECAUSE IF GRASS CAN BE POTENTIALLY ADAPTIVE BY EATING OTHER THINGS AND POTENTIALLY AN OPTION, THE COMPUTER PIECE UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WOULD JUST GO AWAY.E WOULD HAVE PEOPLE DINER HOSPITALS BECAUSE THOSE ARE RUNNING THEIR HEART AND LUNGS AND SO, I THINK, IT IS SO INTEGRATIVE SO I WOULD HAVE TO GO WITH COMPUTERS. >> OKAY, CHRIS? >> THIS IS JUST ME BEING CONTRARY FOR FUN. I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM THE QUESTION OF EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE DIE FROM EACH OF THESE CHOICES. AND GIVEN THAT GRASS INCLUDES WHEAT, BARLEY, RYE AND CORN, US WITH CASSAVA AND RICE, THE TWO STAPLES LEFT ON THE PLANET. WE WILL PROBABLY USE 5 BILLION PEOPLE IF YOU GET RID OF GRASS. THAT'S MORE PEOPLE THAN YOU WILL LOSE WITH COMPUTERS. I AM IN FAVOR OF GRASS. [00:20:02] >> OKAY! WE ARE GOING TO VOTE AND IN THE CHAT, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING GRASS. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GRASS STAYS. THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THAT. I KNOW IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. NOT NEARLY AS SOME ICEBERG OR EXERCISES BUT ALSO GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH HOW YOU WORK AS A TEAM. THERE IS MINE! >> SANDY IS GOING WITH GRASS! >> THE JOYS OF WORKING AT HOME. SO, YES, ALL RIGHT. NOW WILL REFLECT ON WHAT YOU LEARNED AND EXPERIENCED WITH THAT AND I WILL MAKE THE LAWYER IN THE ROOM GO FIRST. I KNOW THAT REFLECTING IS HIS FAVORITE. [LAUGHTER] >> DID I TELL YOU I HATE THAT? WHAT DID I TAKE FROM THAT? >> YEAH! >> THAT I COULD GET OUT WITH PROVIDING A SINCERE ANSWER AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PERSON. LEARNING AS A FACILITATOR. >> AND DOING IT AGAIN TOO. >> I NOTICED THAT. JOHN, HOW ABOUT YOU? >> WELL, OTHERS MAY NOT HAVE SEEN IT, I WAS GOING TO SHIFT MY THINKING, BUT I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED SOME ADDITIONAL ACTUAL EVIDENCE AS OPPOSED TO THEORETICAL PROPOSALS. AND SO, IF WE COULD'VE HAD MORE DATA AROUND THAT CONVERSATION IT WOULD'VE HELPED ME. PARTICULARLY THE LAST QUESTION. BECAUSE CHRIS BROUGHT FORWARD 5 BILLION PEOPLE EXPIRING AND I THINK WE COULD ALSO EVALUATE THE COMPUTER SIDE OF THAT AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME WOULD HAVE EXPIRED.> IT WOULD BE NON- ZERO. >> OR DID WE COULD'VE BROUGHT TO THE CONVERSATION. >> SIRI? YOU ARE STILL ON MUTE. >> I KNOW. I FOUND IT ENJOYABLE TO HEAR THE ACTUAL DIFFERENT THINKING PROCESSES OF PEOPLE. BECAUSE IT WAS PRETTY -- PRETTY CLEAR SORT OF, HOW THE DECISION-MAKING AND WHAT -- EVEN THOUGH DA GAMA DOES GIVE SOME INSIGHT INTO HOW WE THINK ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS. CHRIS, IT WAS CLEAR THAT YOU ARE YET AGAIN, VERY METHODICAL WITH YOUR THINKING SO, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD EXPECT, THIS IS GREAT! [LAUGHTER] >> OKAY, CHRIS, YOU CAN FOLLOW THAT UP? >> IS ACTUALLY THE SAME RESPONSE THAT SIRI HAD, I WAS SURPRISED BY AN INDIVIDUALS RESPONSES. THIS IS THE SORT OF APPROACH I EXPECTED AND THERE'S THE QUESTION OF YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE SPECIFICITY, WHAT ARE MY PARAMETERS AROUND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO AND, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT AS A BOARD, WE DO OCCASIONALLY HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO CHANGE OUR MINDS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE USE IT, BUT WE DO HAVE ENOUGH RESPECT AS A BOARD TO CHANGE OUR MINDS IF WE WANT TO. >> LEAH? >> I THINK THE SAME, I SAW KIND OF, WHAT I EXPECTED, AND I WAS SURPRISED AT A COUPLE OF THE FLOSS BETWEEN WHAT PEOPLE SAID THEY WOULD VOTE FOR, VERSUS WHAT THEY ENDED UP VOTING FOR. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. I SAW A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS. I SAW A BOARD THAT RESPECTS EACH OTHER AND A TEAM THAT RESPECTS EACH OTHER, THERE WAS -- AGAIN BECAUSE OF DENNIS MULTIPLE TIMES, NOBODY INTERRUPTED EACH OTHER TO ARGUE AGAINST THEM, PEOPLE CAN GET QUITE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A GAME. AND I DID SEE PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR MIND, WHICH SHOWS THAT YOU REALLY DO LISTEN TO EACH OTHER AND OPEN-MINDED WHEN YOU COME INTO DECISION-MAKING. I ALSO SAW, THIS DECISION IS [00:25:03] TOO HARD, AND SO, I WILL TRY TO FIND A WAY TO GET OUT OF HAVING TO MAKE THIS DECISION. WHICH IT IS A TACTIC WE USE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, RIGHT? THIS IS A REALLY HARD DECISION AND I'M NOT HAPPY YOU PUT ME IN THIS PLACE. HOW DO I FIND A WAY TO GET OUT OF IT? SOMETIMES THERE IS VALID, I NEED MORE INFORMATION, TO MAKE THIS CHOICE AND SOMETIMES, IT IS JUST A WRONG DECISION. I AM THINKING SOME RECENT EXPERIENCES WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. WHERE THERE WAS NO GREAT DECISION, RIGHT? SO, THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME WITH THAT. WE ARE GOING TO TRANSITION NOW, YOU ARE SENT SOME ARTICLES TO READ. AND I RECOGNIZE PEOPLE ARE BUSY. AND HOPEFULLY, YOU READ MAYBE ONE OF THEM? AT LEAST, IF NOT ALL OF THEM ANOTHER LEAH READ ALL OF THEM. YOU READ TWO! OKAY, GOOD JOB! YOU GOT THEM ALL DONE. AND LET'S JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, HAVE MANY COPIES OF THESE. WHAT YOU GOT OUT OF, WHAT YOU ARE ABLE TO -- I CAN'T REMEMBER HER STARTED THE LAST TIME. I KNOW! WE ARE GOING TO START WITH SIRI. SINCE YOU READ ALL FOUR, WHAT WAS YOUR TAKE AWAY FROM THOSE? >> THAT HOW WE BEHAVE AS A BOARD MANAGED OVERALL STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPAND ON THAT OR KEEP WITH THAT? >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY CLEAR. THE STRONGER GOVERNORS WE HAVE AND THE CLEARER WE WERE TOGETHER AND ARE ABLE TO DO DIRECTION AND PARTNER, AND ACTUALLY PROBABLY OTHER BIG PIECE THAT COMES ALL OF THAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. IN THE ROLE FOR THE BOARD TO BE ACTIVE IN THAT LOCATION AND THAT WAS PROBABLY THE OTHER BIG PIECE THAT I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT FROM THE BOARD STANDARD SIDE AND HOW IT REALLY FELL OUT WITH THESE ARTICLES AS WELL. >> GREAT THANK YOU. CHRIS? >> ELSE OPEN THAT YOU GO IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ORDER SO I COULD FIND THESE ARTICLES AND HAVE AN OPINION ON THEM BEFORE I COPPED TO THE FACT THAT HAVE ENTIRELY FAILED TO NOTICE THAT THERE WERE ARTICLES. I AM NOT -- I RETIRED IN JUNE AND I'M REALLY HAVING A HARD TIME STAYING ON TOP OF STUFF. THAT IS MY HONEST ANSWER. >> YOU KNOW, I GRADUATED FROM LAW SCHOOL ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO AND IT WAS A RECURRING NIGHTMARE FOR ME, AND I'M ABOUT TO BE CALLED ON AND HAVE NOT DONE THE READING AND FRANTICALLY TRYING TO FIND IT. , I FEEL YOUR PAIN THERE. >> FORTUNATELY, OLD ENOUGH THAT I WAS REALLY FRANTIC, IT WAS MORE OF A DAMMIT, SHOULD AT LEAST BE ABLE TO KNOW THE TITLE OF ONE OF THESE ARTICLES, SO DON'T LIKE A COMPLETE BOZO, WHO DIDN'T EVEN OPEN EMAIL BUT WHATEVER IT CAME TO, I MISSED IT COMPLETELY. I'M SORRY, IT IS MY FAULT. NO ONE ELSE, MY FAULT. >> I LOVE YOUR MODELING, HONESTY AND TAKING OWNERSHIP. THAT IS EXCELLENT! ALL RIGHT, LEAH? >> SORRY, I'M STILL LAUGHING! YEAH, I THINK THE BIGGEST TAKE AWAY FROM ME WAS, THE REINFORCEMENT OF WHAT I HAVE BEEN LEARNING THROUGH THE PAST YEAR. THROUGH -- AS WELL AS WORKING WITHIN THE BOARD AND SO, IT JUST IS A GOOD REFRESHER ON SOME OF THE CONCEPTS AND THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD IN DISCUSSION AND THROUGH LEARNING. >> THANK YOU, LEAH. ERIC? >> I THINK WHAT IT TAKE AWAY FROM THESE OTHER THINGS THAT REAFFIRM MY EXISTING BELIEFS. AND HERE, NO DIFFERENT, I GUESS. I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING A BOARD CAN HAVE HIS DISCIPLINE. DISCIPLINE MEANING, FOCUSED ON THE WORK OF THE BOARD AND NOT JUMPING INTO OTHER AREAS. AND, THAT IS SOMETHING I TRIED TO THINK ABOUT IS, WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF WORK AND WHAT IS OUTSIDE OF IT? THAT IS MY TAKE AWAY. [00:30:08] >> GREAT, THANK YOU, ERIC, THAT WAS VERY REFLECTIVE. I APPRECIATE THAT. JOHN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ THEM? >> I DID, AND SIMILAR TO WHAT ERIC SAID, THE REINFORCING OF CONCEPTS IS WHAT THESE DID FOR ME. THE CONCEPT OF A BOARD THAT IS COLLABORATIVE, COLLABORATIVE WITH THE COMMUNITY, COLLABORATIVE WITH ONE ANOTHER AND CLOBBERED WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AROUND THE RIGHT WORK, AND ONCE THAT OCCURS, THE BOARD REALLY IS EFFECTIVE AND REALLY ABLE TO DO THEIR BEST WORK. BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT SPACE, IT ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR KIND OF BEING FOCUSED ON THE RIGHT WORK, ALLOWING SUPERINTENDENTS AND STAFF TO DO THEIR WORK, WHILE THE BOARD DOES THEIR WORK BECAUSE THEY ARE TWO VERY DISTINCT BODIES OF WORK. BUT IT IS THROUGH COLLABORATION THAT ACTUALLY OCCURS. AND SO, THEY DIDN'T USE THE TERM IN THIS BUT TO ME, THAT IS WHAT THIS WORK REALLY IS ABOUT. AND THEN THE STANDARDS REALLY HELP GUIDE AND DIRECT WHAT THE WORK IS.O THERE'S MORE OF A REINFORCEMENT OF THOSE CONCEPTS. >> GREAT, THANK YOU. I HAVE FOUND THESE ARTICLES VERY USEFUL FOR ALL BOARD DYNAMICS. SOME BOARDS WE FOCUS ON THE FAILURE TO GOVERN BECAUSE THAT IS A LOT OF THE PRACTICES THAT THEY'RE ENGAGING IN. IT WAS NOT THE CASE WITH YOU ALL, THAT IS NOT WHY I HAD READ THEM. A LOT OF WHAT YOU HAVE REFLECTED IS, MY HOPE IS JUST RECOGNIZING THAT YOU ALREADY DO A LOT OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT ARE BEST PRACTICES, AND THAT IS PARTLY, RELATED WHY YOU'RE SUCH A HIGH PERFORMING DISTRICT, BECAUSE YOU ARE A HIGH-PERFORMING BOARD. AND SO, ENCOURAGING TO KEEP DOING THOSE THINGS. ALSO, AND I'VE JUST HAD TO RUN FOR A FOURTH TERM AND I HAD TO BECAUSE, THE ALTERNATIVE WAS HORRIFIC. SO, PEOPLE WERE SAYING OKAY, YOU NEED TO TELL US WHAT YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE. AND I'M LIKE I DON'T KNOW I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 12 YEARS BUT THERE'S NOTHING I CAN SAY THAT WAS ME THAT DID THAT, IT WAS A BOARD, IT WAS A DISTRICT, IT WAS A COMMUNITY THAT THINGS HAPPEN BUT THERE'S ALMOST NOTHING RECORD SAY THAT IS ME. AND THAT IS HARD, PARTICULARLY WHEN NEW TO A BOARD, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO COME IN AND SAY I MADE THIS DIFFERENCE, I IMPROVED THINGS, I HELPED. YOU DON'T VOLUNTEER TO DO THE WORK FOR $50 PER MEETING. BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO HELP HER MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I FIND THESE ARTICLES KIND OF REASSURING OF, I AM MAKING A DIFFERENCE, BY WORKING WITH OTHERS, THAT IT DOES HELP STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT. AND I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE SOME SPECIFIC, I MADE THESE MATH SCORES GO UP. I MADE THEM GO UP BECAUSE I WORKED WITH FOUR OTHER PEOPLE WELL. AND WE STAYED IN OUR LANE, OR NEED TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER WAY TO PHRASE THAT WE OPERATED AS A BOARD, AND IT DIDN'T GET INTO THE WEEDS AND TRY TO MICROMANAGE THINGS. OKAY, FINALLY, THE DOGS GOT THEIR BEDS, >> I'VE READ THEM AND I AGREE WITH THEM ENTIRELY. >> PERFECT! LOOK AT YOU GO. >> I'M KIDDING! IT'S A, B, C AND D. I DIDN'T REALIZE. AM BACK UP TO DATE NOW. >> OKAY, GREAT! [LAUGHTER] THE BENEFITS OF VIRTUAL, WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PULL THAT OFF, RIGHT? F YOU HADN'T BEEN HONEST? >> YOU DON'T KNOW ME VERY WELL. SORRY! THEY KNOW ME I'M JUST BEING FUNNY. >> NO! I APPRECIATE IT. I WOULD'VE MADE YOU TURN COMPUTERS OFF AT THIS POINT SO IT WOULD'VE BEEN HARDER TO FAKE IT. OKAY SO, THE REST OF OUR TIME TOGETHER, WE WILL BE FOCUSING ON YOUR SELF-ASSESSMENT. AND PUTTING TOGETHER GOALS FOR THE NEXT YEAR. I'M GOING TO PREFACE THAT BY SAYING, I'VE GONE THROUGH SELF-ASSESSMENT, AND IT LOOKS GREAT! THERE ARE A FEW TAKEAWAYS, THERE IS SOME NICE IMPROVEMENT FROM LAST YEAR, THERE'S NICE IMPROVEMENT OVER THE YEARS, SO, THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO [00:35:03] IS START WITH, THE TWO OR THREE PAGES THAT TRICIA PUT TOGETHER LAST YEAR AND KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHERE YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE LAST YEAR AND WHAT HOPES ARE FOR THIS YEAR. AND REFLECT ON THOSE, AND THEN, WILL SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME DIVING INTO THE DETAILS OF THE SELF-ASSESSMENT AND THEN, I REALLY WANT TO SPEND AT LEAST ONE HOUR, VERY HEAVILY FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE THAT WE WALK AWAY WITH GOALS. FOR THE NEXT YEAR. >> SANDY, FYI, I DON'T BELIEVE HE SENT OUT TRICIA 'S SUMMARY TO EVERYBODY. >> EXCELLENT! >> WE CAN DO THAT RIGHT NOW. AND EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT. HOW ABOUT THAT? >> WE COULD DO THAT, YES. >> WEEK TO SHARE IT ON YOUR SCREEN. >> WELL, -- >> OKAY NEVERMIND! JOHN, DO YOU HAVE? OR I WILL HUNT IT. >> NO, HERE WE GO. >> I CAN GET IT FOR YOU FAST. >> WHILE PEOPLE ARE GETTING OUT AND REALLY IT'S OKAY, LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, THERE IS A BOARD IDENTIFIED AND WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IN THE FUTURE WORK SESSIONS. AND IF WE CAN MAKE THAT FONT BIGGER. >> SIRI JUST EMAILED IT TO ALL OF US. >> OKAY -- >> REALLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS CONVERSATION, FEEL FREE TO SKIM THE FIRST PART BUT I WOULD LIKE US TO SPEND TIME TALKING ABOUT, ITEMS YOU IDENTIFY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IN FUTURE WORK SESSIONS, AND SPEND TIME REFLECTING, DID WE DO THAT? , WHAT DO YOU FEEL LIKE GOT ACCOMPLISHED? AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT, ANOTHER WAS A LITTLE BIT OF FRUSTRATION THAT MAY BE GOALS WERE NOT PUT TOGETHER SO LET'S TALK ABOUT, DID THIS DO THE JOB OF HOW IT WAS FORMULATED? AND DID YOU IN FACT HAVE GOALS THAT YOU CHECKED OFF OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR? OR DID THIS GET BASICALLY, PUT ON THE SHELF AND THEN YOU COME WITH A DIFFERENT WAY OF STRUCTURING THE GOALS? >> I JUST READ THE NOTES, YOU'RE DIRECTING US TO READ, MY MEMORY IN THE PAST YEAR, WE HAVE AT LEAST, WE ADDRESSED, THAT THE WORD? WE HAVE DEALT WITH AT TIMES, THE ISSUES AND WORK SESSIONS. HAVING READ THAT NOW, I'M SURPRISED, MY MEMORY OF THE LAST GO ROUND AS BOARD SELF-ASSESSMENT WAS LITTLE DIFFERENT SO I WAS SURPRISED, I WOULDN'T SAY THOSE WERE THE GOALS. COMMUNICATION WAS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER TWO ITEMS, I DIDN'T EVEN RECALL A DISCUSSION AROUND THOSE. BUT NONETHELESS, IT IS SOMETHING I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE WORKED ON IN THE LAST YEAR, THAT'S MY VIEW. >> OKAY, ANYONE ELSE? >> I WOULD SAY YES, WE HAVE [00:40:05] WORKED ON THESE, AND DIFFERENT WAYS. IT HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING SYSTEMATIC IN SOME REGARDS. I KNOW EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN, WE TALKED ABOUT, HOW DO WE DO WITH EMAILS COMING IN AND HOW DO WE WORK THROUGH THAT WERE EFFECTIVELY MATURELY CLOSE THE LOOP? THINK OUR OPERATIONAL EXPECTATIONS WILL BE HITTING SOME OF THESE AS WELL. ROLES AND EXPECTATIONS, AGAIN, HASN'T BEEN A CONVERSATION WHERE WE REALLY WALK THROUGH THOSE SPECIFICALLY. BUT THEY STARTED PLAYING OUT IN DIFFERENT WAYS. I THINK THAT STILL A QUESTION WE HAVE, SO THOSE, THIS WAS HELPFUL TO ME. I WILL SAY, AS PRESIDENT AND COMING IN TO DO THE WORK PLAN. I DID PULLED HIS BACK OUT TO SAY WHERE WE ARE WITH SOME OF THESE? AND SOME THINGS WE NEED TO DO HERE. AND WORK ON. BUT IT'S INTERESTING, YOU ARE LIKE THOSE ARE NEW TO ME! THAT'S WHAT MY SENSE WAS, WASN'T SURE THERE WAS BOARD AGREEMENT AROUND ALL OF THESE THINGS. THIS WAS REALLY TRICIA 'S INTERPRETATION OF THE CONVERSATION SHE HEARD DURING THAT TIME. I THINK THAT IS THE PIECE I WOULD SAY. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CONSENSUS FROM THE WHOLE BOARD IN THAT. AND THEN ABLE TO DO THE FOLLOW-UP WORKSHOP TO DO THE CONSENSUS PIECE. WE USE THIS AS A PROXY. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> LEAH, I KNOW YOU ARE BRAND-NEW, ANY THOUGHTS? >> I THINK I FALL SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN ERIC AND SIRI. I REMEMBER SOME OF THE DISCUSSION, THIS IS REALLY LOUD. BUT, AT THE SAME TIME, I FEEL LIKE THERE IS SOME PIECES THAT WERE SLIGHTLY SURPRISING IN THIS SUMMARY. VERSES, KIND OF WHAT I RECALL OF OUR DISCUSSIONS. WITH THE CAVEAT OF, I'VE BEEN IN MY ROLE FOR LIKE A WEEK AT THAT POINT SO. [LAUGHTER] BUT MY MEMORY IS A LITTLE HAZY. >> THANK YOU, HOW ABOUT YOU, CHRIS? >> I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION ON COMMUNICATIONS. THE IRONY TO ME, LOOKING AT THE CONVERSATION ROOM ROLES AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE TRY TO HAVE REGULARLY, LESS CYCLE, IT WOULD'VE BEEN TRYING TO BRING YOU ALL UP TO SPEED ON HOW TO OPERATE EFFECTIVELY, SHE HAS FOUGHT INTO THE TEAM VERY EFFECTIVELY BUT, TO ME, IT IS ONE THAT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE I AM A LAME-DUCK. I'M IN MY 15TH YEAR ON THE BOARD, MY SON IS ABOUT TO GRADUATE AND THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE I WILL BE LIVING IN THE DISTRICT NEXT YEAR SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, OPERATIONALLY, -- TO ME IT IS VERY REAL RIGHT NOW. AND TRYING TO FIGURE HOW TO SOLICIT QUALIFIED CANDIDATES OUT OF THE POOL OF PEOPLE IS A BIG DEAL. I FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT A PRETTY SOLID PICTURE BUT IF THERE IS A BIG TURNOVER -- THAT WOULD LEAVE THREE OF THE FIVE POSITIONS ON THE BALLOT. THAT COULD BE A BIG TURNOVER. AND SO, PREPARING THE BOARD FOR THAT TURNOVER. IF YOU LIKE WE'VE GOT A GOOD CULTURE BUT I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE IT WILL PROPAGATE SOMETHING. AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WERE SOMETIMES WHEN THE STUDENT IS RIGHT THE TEACHER WILL APPEAR. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE I'M OUT AND HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE QUALIFIED PEOPLE. SO. >> THANK YOU. ERIC, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? NO? OKAY. IT IS DEFINITELY SEEN AMONG MANY BOARDS, PARTICULARLY FOR DISTRICTS THAT HAVE GROWN A LOT, AND BECOMING LARGE, THE WORKLOAD IS GROWN COMMON [00:45:03] EXPECTATIONS OF THIS UNPAID, OTHER THAN $50 A MEETING POSITION, HAVE GROWN EXPONENTIALLY, I WOULD SAY -- >> YOU GET $50? >> NO WE DON'T COLLECT THE 50. BUT SOME PEOPLE DO. I KNOW IT'S OUT THERE. BUT HOW -- AND AT THE SAME TIME, HAVING MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE WANT REPRESENTATION OF ALL THE DIFFERENT PLACES ON THE BOARD AND THEN THOSE ARE BASICALLY EXCLUSIVE. TO HAVE THIS JOB, EXPLODE IN TERMS OF WORKLOAD AND EXPECTATIONS AND THEN HOW DO YOU GET, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ABLE TO RUN BECAUSE THE NARROW POOL. SO, THAT DEFINITELY IS A CONVERSATION WORTH HAVING AFTER WE GO THROUGH THIS. JOHN, YOUR HAND IS UP. >> TYPE II THINGS. WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT KIND OF THIS AND A REFLECTION ON IT. THEN I HAVE A TECHNICAL ASK OF EVERYBODY. FIRST, I THINK THE BOARD HAS SEEN THE VALUE IN SUMMARIZING AND REFLECTING ON THEIR WORK, CLOSER TO WHEN THE MEETING OCCURS. WE ARE SAYING THAT WITH MONITORING REPORTS RIGHT NOW. WE ARE RECEIVING THE BOARDS FEEDBACK FROM THE MONITORING WITHIN YOU KNOW TWO WEEKS OR FOUR WEEKS, DEPENDING ON KIND OF THE SUBSIDENCE THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE BOARD MEETING. AND SO, TO THE BOARD IS TURNING ON THEIR FEEDBACK QUICKER. THIS MEETING THAT WAS HELD LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE WAS BEGINNING OF DECEMBER. TRICIA SENT THE SUMMARY ON FEBRUARY 22. IT IS A LARGE SPAN OF TIME AND IT WASN'T THE BOARD SUMMARIZING THERE EFFORT, IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE SUMMARIZING THE BOARD EXPERIENCE. WE COULD HAVE TAKEN THIS AND THEN BROUGHT IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR THE BOARD TO SUMMARIZE, WHICH I THINK THEN, WOULD CREATE MORE MEANING. I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT FEBRUARY 22, 2022, WAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPACTFUL EXPERIENCES FOR K-12 AS WE WERE KIND OF REELING FROM OMICRON AND EVERYTHING THE EXPERIENCE WAS. THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON AT THIS TIME AND I THINK THEIR PRACTICES THAT HAVE CHANGED THAT ARE ALLOWING THE BOARD TO BE MORE REFLECTIVE OF THEIR EXPERIENCES, DURING MEETINGS. IT IS JUST AS I THINK ABOUT THIS. AND COULD I JUST ASK EVERYONE TO TURN THEIR CAMERAS OFF AND ON AGAIN? BECAUSE I HAVE A BLACK SCREEN ON MY END, SO IS NOT DISPLAYING VERY WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, YOU'RE ALL BACK. >> OKAY. AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE, I WAS NOT -- THERE IS NO CRITICISM IN THIS EXERCISE. I WAS JUST TRYING TO KIND OF DO A LEVEL SET. IT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND WHAT I NEED TO DO AS A FACILITATOR AND WHAT WILL BE MOST EFFECTIVE FOR YOU ALL. >> OKAY. >> REAL QUICK SANDY, I STILL FIND, IS HELPFUL TO REVIEW THIS EVEN AS WE WALK IN, SO WE KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM FROM THAT SENSE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING IT COME FORWARD BECAUSE WE DO FORGET WE'VE DONE AND IT HELPS TO BRING US TOGETHER. >> AND THAT WAS PART OF IT. SOMETIMES, WE SAY, WE DIDN'T EVER DO ANYTHING THEN READ THIS EXAMPLE IN MY OWN DISTRICT, WERE NOT INVOLVED WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS BUT YOUR SCORE LATER START TIMES AND CERTAIN PERIODS OF THE DAY AND PLAYS A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE BUDGET. OR WHATEVER IT IS. BUT IF YOU DON'T POINT THAT OUT TO PEOPLE, THEY DON'T EVER SEE THE LINE BETWEEN WHAT THEY HAVE ASKED FOR AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED. THAT WAS PART OF IT ALSO JUST TO SEE, DID YOU IN FACT GO TO THESE GOALS IN THE COURSE OF THE YEAR? BECAUSE OF THE OTHER OPTION. I GUESS WE SAID WE WANT TO DO THAT BUT HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT AT ALL IN THE LAST YEAR. SO THANK YOU, THAT WAS HELPFUL FOR ME AS WELL. OKAY, NOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE GOT SCREEN SHARING ABILITY [00:50:04] BUT LET'S PULL UP, IF SOMEBODY COULD PULL UP THE SELF ASSESSMENT REPORT. AND IF, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE A DEEP DIVE INTO THIS AHEAD OF TIME. IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT REALLY, YOU ARE LIKE I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE HECK WAS GOING ON. HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THESE ANSWERS? I WAS CONFUSED WITH THE QUESTION WAS ASKING FOR I WANT TO GO FARTHER WITH THE QUESTION, LET ME KNOW. OTHERWISE, WE WILL JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH IT. >> I WAS ACTUALLY COMING INTO THIS, WONDERING WHETHER I HAD FILLED THE SURVEY OUT AT ALL. SO, I APOLOGIZE IF I DID NOT. BUT LOOK LIKE THERE WERE FIVE VOTES THIS YEAR SO I MUST'VE DONE I JUST DON'T REMEMBER WHATSOEVER. >> CHRIS, YOU WERE FIRST. FYI. >> OKAY. AND -- >> YOU WERE ON IT! >> GREAT. I DON'T REMEMBER THAT BUT THANK YOU. >> YOU DID YOUR HOMEWORK! >> THERE YOU GO. >> AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE SIRI WOULD HAVE BEEN HARASSING ME IF YOU HADN'T GOTTEN IT DONE. >> SHE IS RIGHT. >> LOOKING, DIDN'T THINK YOU JUMP OUT AT ME AS TO CONCERNS? NOTHING HUGE.UST AREAS THAT WE DO HAVE CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT TO BE ABLE TO WORK IN AND DO. I THINK THE ONE PIECE I FOUND INTERESTING, WAS ACTUALLY, AND HAVE IT MARKED HERE, IN STANDARD ONE, IS BENCHMARK E QUESTION 18, REALLY REALLY SPECIFIC, BECAUSE THE PIECE WAS INTERESTING IS THAT NONE OF US HAD SAID ALWAYS IN THIS ONE. WE ALL SAID MOST OF THE TIME. AND IT HAS TO DO WITH OUR OWN BEHAVIOR. SO, I WAS INTRIGUED. RIGHT THERE. THAT THAT IS WE STILL SAID MOST SO IT'S INTERESTING CONCERT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE TRULY HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT IT SHOULD BE ALL THE TIME. IN ALL OF US AGREE WE DON'T DO IT ALL THE TIME SO IT IS AN INTERESTING PIECE OF, IT IS JUST AN INTERESTING PIECE, I WAS INTRIGUED. >> YEAH! I WOULD SAY, AS ASSESSMENTS GO, OVERALL, THIS IS SUPPOSED BE BETTER. IT'S A VERY GOOD LOOKING BOARD SELF-ASSESSMENT. YOU ARE IN ALIGNMENT AND YOU DO A LOT OF VERY GOOD WORK, VERY WELL. SO, LET'S TAKE A MOMENT, AND JUST ASK, TALK ABOUT THIS QUESTION. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD JUMPING OFF POINT BECAUSE IT HELPS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT YOURSELF, WERE YOU THINK ABOUT OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? AND IS IT SPECIFIC TO ONE OF THE PEOPLE LISTED RIGHT?S THERE CONCERN ABOUT HOW WE ARE WITH EACH OTHER OR HOW STAFF IS BEING TREATED? COMMUNITY, CERTAINLY AGAIN, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IT HAS BEEN A STRUGGLE TO BE RESPECTFUL WITH ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHEN THEY ARE CALLING YOU A KILLER OF CHILDREN, IT CAN BE CHALLENGING TO REMAIN POLITE AND SMILING WHEN THAT'S HAPPENING. >> I AGREE WITH YOU. IT IS INTERESTING AND UNANIMOUS MOST OF THE TIME. I'M JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT THE TIMING OF THIS WAS. THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW PARTICULAR MEETINGS WHERE WE'VE HAD THINGS COMING OUT WITH PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES AND IT'S REALLY TOUGH. AND HONESTLY, I DON'T, MY REACTION TO THIS TODAY IS NOT THAT ARMOR ANY SPECIFIC INCIDENTS WITHIN THE BOARD OR EXTERNAL FROM THE BOARD. IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I KNOW IN 15 YEARS, IT WILL BE BY A MILE THE HARDEST. AND I THINK THAT IN THIS CASE, IT COULD VERY WELL BE SOMETHING SPECIFIC. WHAT'S INTERESTING FOR ME HAS BEEN, I'VE HAD A MORE [00:55:02] CONSTITUENT MEETING THIS LAST YEAR WHERE IT WAS CLEAR TO ME THAT SOMEONE WAS SO ANGRY WITH US, THEY HAD TO TAKE THEM TO A CALM, QUIET VENUE, FOR A ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATION, RATHER THAN TRYING TO DO WITH IT IN THE USUAL BOARD FEEDBACK OFFICIALLY. AND YET, IN MOST CASES, AND TURN FROM SOMETHING WHERE I WENT INTO IT HONESTLY, I GET UP IN THE MORNING IN HEAD DOWN FOR BREAKFAST AND SPITTING BULLETS BUT I CONSIDER EVEN THOUGH THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OF THEM THAT I KNOW I STILL HAVEN'T MANAGED TO TALK TO MY WAY OF THINKING, THERE'S NOBODY WHO I THINK I'M WORRIED I'M GOING TO GET SHOT. IT IS JUST BEEN THAT KIND OF PANDEMIC. AND SO, I DON'T KNOW, TO ME, THAT'S MY INTERPRETATION OF A TEAM IT'S BEEN REALLY CHALLENGING TO JUST TRY AND RISE ABOVE AND REMEMBER THAT EVERYONE IS SHOWING UP IF THEIR ANGER IS ALMOST BECAUSE THEY PERCEIVE THE CHILD IS THREATENED. AND THAT MEMORY OF PARENTS YOU KNOW ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, THEY ARE JUST ANYWAY, THEY ARE PEOPLE TOO. AND THERE UPSET IS NOT NECESSARILY WRONG. THAT IS MY INTERPRETATION OF WHAT I'VE NO IDEA WHEN IT FILLED THIS OUT. >> THANK YOU, CHRIS. WHAT DO OTHERS THINK? >> I WILL TALK. I DIDN'T THINK THIS WAS -- I THINK, I WILL PUSH BACK ON THE PREMISE AND SAY, A NOTEWORTHY QUESTION, I THINK ALL THE TIME WHERE ANYTHING IS HARD, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU'RE ENGAGING YOUR OWN BEHAVIOR, YOU KNOW, SO -- MOST OF THE TIME YES, WE STRIVE FOR ALL THE TIME BUT MOST OF THE TIME I THINK IS FINE. I CAN LIVE WITH THAT. >> SIRI OR LEAH? >> SORRY, I KEEP GOING TO MY COMPUTER, TO UN-MUTE AND I FORGET I HAVE TO USE THIS MICROPHONE. SO THERE IS A LAG. WHEN I AANSWER THE QUESTION, I WAS THINKING ABOUT MY LAST YEAR OF EXPERIENCE, SITTING IN BOARD MEETINGS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES, WHERE OPINIONS HAVE BEEN SHARED, OR THOUGHTS HAVE BEEN SHARED. I DIDN'T PERCEIVE IT AS NECESSARILY RESPECTFUL WAY OF COMMUNICATION, EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINIONS AND WHAT THEY THINK, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES, WHERE IT COULD HAVE BEEN PHRASED DIFFERENTLY, OR APPROACHED DIFFERENTLY. AND I THINK, AWARENESS OF THOSE INSTANCES AND BRINGING THOSE TO LIGHT, WILL HELP US GOING FORWARD. SO THAT THEIR INTERACTIONS ARE MORE RESPECTFUL. >> JUST FOR MY OWN CLARIFICATION, ARE YOU TALKING WITHIN THE BOARD, COMMUNICATION? >> YES. I'M REFERRING TO SPECIFICALLY, IN BOARD MEETINGS. AND STUDY SESSIONS. >> OKAY. SIRI? >> I WOULD AGREE WITH LEAH, I THINK THERE ARE TIMES DURING THOSE PIECES THAT WE DO NOT NECESSARILY UTILIZE OUR VOICE AS EFFECTIVELY AS WE COULD IN THE WEIGHT IS RESPECTFUL FOR EVERYBODY. IN REGARDS TO STAFF, OTHER BOARD MEMBER IS AN PIECE LIKE THAT. I DO THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WORK ON IN DOING AND I THINK IS JUST PART OF OUR ROLE TO DRAW ATTENTION TO IT AND PAY ATTENTION. YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT SHE PUT FORWARD AS AN OUTLINE. >> OKAY. >> SANDY CAN OFFER ONE PIECE [01:00:04] HERE? MANY OF OUR INTERACTIONS WITH COMMUNITY, IS A FIRST IMPRESSION. AND THAT IS THE ONLY IMPRESSION. AND THE ONLY TRACTION WE GET TO HAVE WITH THAT COMMUNITY MEMBER. AND SO, WHILE YES, MOST OF THE TIME IS GOOD, WE DO NOT GET THE INTERACTION BACK IF IT IS DISRESPECTFUL, AND THEN THAT IS A MENTAL MODEL A PERSON CARRIES WITH THEM ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND SO, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THIS CAN BE AS IMPORTANT A THING FOR COMMIES THE BOARD AND ALL OF US, BECAUSE WE DON'T OFTEN TIMES GET SECOND CHANCES, TO DEVELOP AND BUILD RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE YOU KNOW, OUR CONNECTION WITH COMMUNITY, OFTEN TIMES, IS AROUND DIFFICULT TOPICS AND ISSUES AND CONCERNS. AND SO, THAT FIRST IMPRESSION IS LASTING. >> THANK YOU, JOHN. AND I WAS TEASING YOU AND YOU SAID YOU COULDN'T SPEAK. CHRIS, YOUR HAND IS UP? >> ACTUALLY, FIRST IS A HERE HERE TO WHAT JOHN JUST SAID BECAUSE WITH 100,000 CONSTITUENTS, YES, MOST OF THE TIME IS THE FIRST AND ONLY TIME YOU MEET THEM. BETTER WOULD BE BETTER. INTERESTINGLY, THIS ONE WHERE I SOMETIMES WONDER ABOUT THE INTERPRETATION WE PUT ON THESE THINGS AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS LOOKING AT HIS CONCERN IN THE BOARD MEETINGS FOR BOARD MEMBER INTERACTIONS. SIMPLY THAT THE ABILITY TO DISAGREE, RESPECTFULLY, WHEN I JOINED THE BOARD THERE WAS SORT OF THIS CULTURE OF THE BOARD DOES NOT DISAGREE IN PUBLIC. AND I SAID ACTUALLY THAT'S REALLY USEFUL FOR THE PUBLIC TO FEEL LIKE WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES.ND HAVING A CULTURE WHERE WE CAN DO THAT EFFECTIVELY, AND CONSISTENTLY, IS A BIG DEAL. I THINK ACTUALLY GOT BETTER AT IT. BUT IT IS STILL SOMETHING WHERE THE ABILITY TO KEEP PROPAGATING THAT CULTURE IS IMPORTANT FOR US. >> GREAT, THANK YOU CHRIS. MY PHILOSOPHY, IT IS NOT ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS, IT IS ABOUT THE CONVERSATION THAT IT PRODUCES. AND SO, SOME OF THEM ARE REALLY SPECIFIC BUT PARTICULARLY THOSE OF US ON POLICY GOVERNANCE PART BUT IT'S ABOUT USING THEM AS A JUMPING OFF POINT, THE CONVERSATION THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE. AS WE ARE LOOKING AT REPORTS AND EASEMENTS. SO, THAT IS THE GOAL HERE. AND WE'RE GOING TO PICK SOME QUESTIONS THAT IT IS NOT ABOUT, I DIDN'T GET AN A ON THIS, IT IS, WHAT IS GOING ON BECAUSE THIS HAS UNEARTHED A HUGE THING AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, I AGREE WITH YOU, CHRIS, HOLD THAT THOUGHT, ERIC. IS THE TENOR OF THE BOARD MEETINGS HAS CHANGED AND WHAT PEOPLE THINK IS APPROPRIATE OF HOW TO TREAT US HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. IF WE ARE GOING TO ASK SOMEONE TO COME STEP INTO THESE SEATS, WE CAN'T JUST HOPE THAT IT WILL MAGICALLY GO AWAY. THE PEOPLE WILL GO BACK TO EITHER HAVING NOISY WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD IS AND WHAT IT DOES, OR JUST, SHOWING UP WHEN THEY ARE UNHAPPY ABOUT THE VOLLEYBALL COACH. RIGHT? SO, WE NEED TO I THINK, I WANT TO USE CODIFY BECAUSE IT WILL GET ERIC ALL WORKED UP BUT WE NEED TO CREATE SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES WERE PUT IN WRITING, WHAT ARE WE THAT WE AS A BOARD WILL BEHAVE AND HAVE PRACTICES TO HANDLE THOSE MOMENTS WHEN PEOPLE DO COME IN AND START SAYING TERRIBLE THINGS, AND ONLY ABOUT US BUT ABOUT OUR STUDENTS AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE THOSE, AND HAVE SOME TO PLAN AHEAD OF HOW YOU WILL HAVE THAT SO IT SOMEONE NEW COMES IN, THEY'RE NOT GOING, MY GOD THIS PERSISTING HORRIBLE RACIST THINGS ABOUT OUR KIDS. AND OUR KIDS ARE SITTING RIGHT THERE WATCHING. HOW DO I HANDLE THAT MOMENT? I THINK THAT IS A GREAT, WE WILL DIVING MORE ABOUT THE SPECIFICALLY OF HOW WE WANT THE GOAL TO BE. BUT I THINK THIS IS REALLY A GOOD THING TO WORK ON. PARTICULARLY OVER THE NEXT YEAR WHEN YOU GOT THREE POTENTIAL NEW BOARD MEMBERS COMING IN ONE YEAR. ERIC? >> I WAS LISTENING VERY CAREFULLY. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO REVISE MY EARLIER REMARKS. >> OKAY. [LAUGHTER] >> WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE [01:05:02] QUESTION OF, IT'S INTERESTING LISTENING TO PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT, TWO WAYS OF THINKING ABOUT THIS. THE BOARD INTERACTION WITH COMMUNITY, RESPECTFUL AND THE OTHER COMPONENT SORT OF IS THE BOARD INTERACTION WITH THE JOBS AND STAFF. WHEN I THINK ABOUT INTERACTIONS, IF IT WAS JUST THAT COMPONENT, I WOULD'VE ANSWERED ALL OF THIS. I THINK THE BOARD IS ALWAYS RESPECTFUL, AT LEAST MY PERCEPTION IS WITH THE COMMUNITY. IT MOVES FROM WORDS EITHER SOME OR MOST ANN WYATT LITTLE MOST, OUR INTERACTION WITH STAFF, THAT'S WHERE I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE AREA WHERE THERE'S LITTLE MORE CONCERN. I WAS ALSO THINK ABOUT WHY I ANSWERED. I THINK THAT IS WHY. I THINK AS A BOARD MEMBER, ONE WHO IS LIKE RIGHT NOW, BE RECORDED AND BROADCAST, YOU CAN FEEL LIKE YOU CAN PUSH ON THINGS OR SAY THINGS IN A FORCEFUL WAY TO SAY THAT YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING, PUSHING AND FIGHTING FOR PEOPLE. I THINK I -- ALL OF THESE I STATEMENTS. I FOUND MYSELF RIGHT OR WRONG, PROBABLY MORE WRONG, AND THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK ABOUT, TRY AND REFLECT UPON AND THINK ABOUT. AN AREA OF GROWTH FOR ME AS WELL. I THINK THERE IS THERE POTENTIAL BETTER VENUES OF ASKING QUESTIONS THAT PUT STUFF ON THE SPOT AND ON THE DAIS AND BOARD MEETINGS TOO. I'M NOT SURE MADE A CONCRETE POINT THERE. THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO THINK OUT LOUD. >> NO, YOU DID. BEING ON THE BOARD IS CURRENTLY BEING PARENTS OF A NEWBORN, RIGHT? AND YOU ARE NOT SLEEPING IN THIS REALLY CUTE THING IS KEEPING YOU UP ALL NIGHT. AND WON'T STOP CRYING AND YOU ARE REALLY REALLY ANGRY AT IT. BECAUSE IT IS RUNNING YOUR LIFE, BUT IT'S CUTE AND HELPLESS. AND SO, YOU TAKE IT OUT ON YOUR PARTNER OR WHOEVER CALLS ON THE PHONE, OR WHAT SO WE'VE HAD A REALLY STRESSFUL COUPLE OF YEARS AND IT IS NORMAL THAT SOMEBODY HAS COME UP AND YELLED AT YOU AND SO, WERE YOU KNOW WE ARE TO LOVE OUR DISCUSSION PAGES AND THE CRAZY THINGS THAT PEOPLE SAY. AND SO, WE DO FEEL IT NOW I'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THIS FROM THE DAIS. OR INSTEAD TAKE IT OUT ON STAFF OR FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS THAT PRESSURE YOU ARE FEELING. IT MAKES SENSE, BUT ACKNOWLEDGING IT IS THE WAY THAT YOU START TO REMOVE THAT AND GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. CHRIS? >> YOUR 90 SECONDS WAS QUITE USEFUL. ONE OF THE THINGS WE AGREED TO DO THIS YEAR, AND IS A FUNDAMENTAL CULTURAL SHIFT. A LOT OF THINGS WITH THE PANDEMIC SHIFTED OF NECESSITY. WE WENT ONLINE PERIOD. BUT BRINGING THINGS BACK FROM ONLINE CHANGED TO, DO WE WANT TO KEEP SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE HAD? AND SO FOR THE BOARD, WE ARE NOW BROADCASTING ALL OF OUR STUDY SESSIONS. THIS IS A NEW CULTURAL PHENOMENON. AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT I YOU KNOW, IT'S IRONIC. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS THE, I JUST DON'T CARE, OR IF I AM NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING HOW IT WORKS. BUT I DON'T ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT PERFORMATIVE STUFF WHEN I'M ON CAMERA. VERSES, JUST, AS I REACT IF IT WASN'T BEING RECORDED BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT EXACTLY SOMETHING WHERE SOMEONE WHO IS BRIGHTER THAN I SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THAT. AND THAT IS A CULTURAL TRANSITION WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF. AND I THINK TO SOME EXTENT, IT'S NOT THAT ACTUALLY, I'VE ALWAYS FELT THEY WERE USEFUL TO [01:10:01] HAVE STUDY SESSIONS. THIS IS GETTING THE DEEP DIVES THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT AND TO GO BACK AND WATCH OUR STUDY SESSION ON TOPIC X IS REALLY VALUABLE TO THE COMMUNITY. BUT THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS THAT THE QUIET CONVERSATIONS YOU ARE ABLE TO HAVE WHEN YOU WEREN'T ON CAMERA AND WE NO LONGER REALLY HAVE THAT AND THIS IS OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS, THERE IS NO PLACE FOR US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT SOMETHING QUIETLY. IF WE ACTUALLY WANTED TO, LET'S SAY I WANTED TO CHASTISE ERIC BECOMING TOO MUCH OF A COMMOTION LIKE I AM, THERE'S NO TIME IN HER OFFICIAL SCHEDULE TO DO THAT. AND THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK WILL BE INTERESTING CHALLENGE AS THE BOARD MOVES FORWARD. NOT A CHALLENGE I INTEND TO DO WITH. I EXPECT IT TO BECOME A REAL CHALLENGE AFTER I AM LONG GONE. BUT REMAINS SOMETHING WHERE THE STRUCTURES ARE HOW YOU MAINTAIN INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS, ARE ABLE TO JOKE WITH EACH OTHER AND YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, OCCASIONALLY, IT IS HEY, YOU REALIZE SOMETHING SOUNDS A LITTLE RACIST. THAT COMMENT MATTERS. BEING ABLE TO DO THAT IN A PLACE THAT ISN'T PERMANENTLY RECORDED FOR POSTERITY, ALSO MATTERS. IT IS HARDER TO NUDGE IN PUBLIC. THAT SOMETHING IS HE IS A REAL INTERESTING SHIFT THAT I HAVEN'T FULLY GRAPPLED WITH YET. >> JOHN? >> PART OF TODAY IS ABOUT THE BOARD SITTING GOALS. AND I'LL PROBABLY BE INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATION AND DIALOGUE, TO LET THE BOARD TAKE THE GOLD PIECE AND DEVELOP THAT. ERIC, TO YOUR POINT, THE BOARD IS A VERY UNIQUE ROLE OF SYSTEM ACCOUNTABILITY. AND WITH ACCOUNTABILITY, COMES PRESSURE. AND SO, FOR ME, IT'S NEVER ABOUT, IS THE BOARD APPLYING THE CORRECT LEVEL OF PRESSURE, IT IS ALWAYS, HOW DOES THE BOARD DO THAT IN A MANNER THAT MAINTAINS KIND OF THE ETHICS THAT ARE STATED WITHIN THE BOARD POLICIES. AND I THINK THIS YOU'RE SAYING AS WELL. AND SO, I THINK THIS IMPORTANT COMPONENT, BECAUSE, IT SHOULDN'T BE ABOUT COMFORT. OF PEOPLE, IT SHOULD BE ABOUT FOCUS ON THE ACCOUNTABILITY, AND DIRECTION WE ARE GOING AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, IS CHANGE IS VERY SLOW PROGRESS. AND SO, RARELY WILL WE SEE SIGNIFICANT AND MASSIVE SHIFTS IN SUCCESS RATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S THIS KIND OF, SLOW, AND IT IS UNCOMFORTABLE FOR ALL OF US BECAUSE OUR DESIRES ARE THAT ALL KIDS, EVERY DAY, ARE BEING HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL AND IT IS THE PACE OF CHANGE, IS NOT RAPID ENOUGH, AND SO, MAINTAIN THAT ACCOUNTABILITY, THAT PRESSURE, WITH ATTENTION OF UNDERSTANDING CHANGE. AND SO, I APPRECIATE YOU. WHAT YOU SAID IS VERY RELEVANT AND I KNOW YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE IT WAS POINTED, BUT I THINK IT WAS REALLY APPLICABLE, AND IN PARTICULAR, TO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. HIGHLY HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WE'VE ALL AGREED, SUCCESS, GIVEN ACHIEVED SUCCESS UNTIL EVERYBODY IS ACHIEVING THAT SAME LEVEL OF SUCCESS. >> I HAVE A TENDENCY TO JUMP INTO PROBLEM-SOLVING WHICH I KNOW IS NOT MY ROLE. SO I'LL JUST HONE THAT. WE'VE HAD CAMERAS AT ALL OF OUR BOARD MEETINGS AND STUDY SESSIONS ALMOST A DECADE NOW. THANKS TO A GENTLEMAN IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO WAS COMING AND TAPING ALL OF OUR BOARD MEETINGS AND STUDY SESSIONS ON HIS OWN VOLITION AND THEN, POSTING THEM TO YOUTUBE AFTER DOING SOME CREATIVE EDITING. SO, WE HAD TO START TAPING THEM OURSELVES. SO THAT WE COULD DO THAT. AND GOING THROUGH IN MY HEAD, BECAUSE WE HAVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COMPOSITION OF THE BOARD WHEN THIS STARTED, AND YET, WE HAVE FORMED A TRUSTING, RESPECTFUL RELATIONSHIP WITH EACH OTHER AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE HOW THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE WE HAD TO HAVE THE WHOLE EXISTENCE HAS BEEN ON CAMERA AND WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER THE FIVE OF US AT THIS POINT, FOR SIX YEARS, AND EVERYTHING WE DO IS ON CAMERA. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND I AM LIKE YOU, I JUST [01:15:06] TOTALLY FORGOTTEN THE CAMERAS ARE THERE. I WILL MEET WITH THE PERSON SAY OKAY WE ARE TAPING AND YET, I FEEL LIKE I'VE GOT THEM IN MY HOUSE AT THIS POINT RIGHT? SO, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENS BUT I DO KNOW IT DOES. AND ONE OF THE KEYS IS GETTING PEOPLE OFF OF THE NEED TO PERFORM WHILE ON CAMERA. YOU KNOW I AM PERFORMING FOR MY CONSTITUENTS RIGHT NOW, LOOK AT ME, I'M GETTING SOMETHING DONE. I AM TAKING DOWN THAT STAFF MEMBER YOU KNOW, RAISING THAT CONCERN OR ARGUING MY POINT AND HOW TO GET AWAY FROM THAT BECAUSE AS WE SAW WITH THE ARTICLES, IT'S NOT HOW THE WORK GETS DONE AND IT IS SLOW, RIGHT? AND IT DOES TAKE TIME AND YOU HAVE TO CREATE THAT CULTURE OF TRUST AND RESPECT WITH EACH OTHER AND WITH THE SYSTEM THAT THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD. AND AGAIN, HAVE A VERY HIGH PERFORMING DISTRICTS SO, THERE ISN'T REALLY AN ISSUE OF, WE HAVE TO DO THIS BECAUSE LOOK AT THE TEST SCORES AND HOW TERRIBLE WE ARE DOING. AND THEN THE OTHER PART NOT ONLY IS IT SLOW, BUT YOU ARE READY STILL HIGH-PERFORMING, TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE, IS REALLY HARD, WE ENCOUNTER THAT IN HER OWN DISTRICT, WE ARE 95 PERCENT GRADUATION RATE, WE WANT TO GET BETTER RIGHT? TO MOVE THE NEEDLE UP ONE OR TWO PERCENT, IT IS SO CHALLENGING. AND THE WORK INVOLVED, IF WE WERE AT 75 PERCENT GRADUATION RATE, WE CAN LOOK REALLY GOOD AND RAISE RATES BY FIVE PERCENT AND YOU KNOW IT JUST TAKES FOCUS. NOW JUST PONTIFICATING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS BUT IT IS THE WORLD WE ARE IN, WE'RE NOT GOING BACKWARDS. WERE GOING TO NOT BE ANYMORE. THAT'S REALLY OLD TERM. WE WILL BE RECORDED ANYMORE. >> I THINK, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK PERFORMANCE IS SOMETHING IMPORTANT. THERE IS A BIT OF PERFORMANCE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHEN I FIRST STARTED ATTENDING SCHOOL BOARD MEANS ONE OF THE THINGS IT HITS ME, NO ONE SEEMS TO DISAGREE. AND SO, I FIND A LITTLE BIT OF PERFORMANCE OF DIFFERENCES OF OPINION IS VERY USEFUL BUT AGAIN, FOR ME IT'S NOT PERFORMATIVE JUST NOT BRIGHT ENOUGH TO KEEP THAT SIMULTANEOUSLY IN MIND, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WHERE, THERE'S THIS INTERESTING CHALLENGE WE HAVE OF TRYING TO SPEAK WITH INSURED VOICE WE HAVE COMMON OPINION. AND TRYING TO FIND COMMON OPINION WHEN WE DON'T HAVE COMMON OPINION. IN THE LATTER IS THE THING THAT'S REALLY HARD TO DO IN A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE YOUR CONSCIOUS OF BEING BROADCAST. AND IT IS NOT SOMETHING I THINK THAT WE CAN SOLVE, IS JUST SOMETHING WE THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT YES, IF YOU DISAGREE RESPECTIVELY IN PUBLIC, OR RESPECTIVELY, IS BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMETHING I FIND USEFUL, I FIND CONVERSATION USEFUL. BUT PERFORMANCE FOR CONSTITUENCY WATCHING US, I DON'T FIND USEFUL. AND SOMETIMES, THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST, I'M NOT SURE THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE AVOIDED. EACH OF US HAS SPECIFIC DIMENSIONS OF THE DISTRICT THAT WE THINK OF OURSELVES AS THE PRIME REPRESENTED ON THE BOARD, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WHERE, MAYBE IT IS SOMETHING THAT WHOEVER'S GOT THE GAVEL IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE AWARE OF, IS THIS A PERFORMANCE, DO WE LET IT PLAYER OR CALL SOMEONE ON THE PERFORMANCE? ARE YOU ADDING TO THE CONVERSATION? OR ARE YOU MAKING A STATEMENT FROM THE SOUNDBITE LATER? THAT IS JUST THE REALITY OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THESE BROADCAST MEETINGS. ANYWAY, IT WILL BE A REAL CHALLENGE TO WORK THROUGH. I DO THINK IT COMES DOWN TO, FUN THOUGH IT IS ENFORCING ROBERTS RULES OF ORDERS, SOMETHING THAT IS GOT VALUE WHEN YOU'RE STUCK IN A SYSTEM WHERE YOU HAVE TO INTERACT PUBLICLY. [01:20:02] ALL RIGHT, I DON'T KNOW WE NEED TO DIVE ANY FURTHER ON THIS TOPIC UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER OPINIONS. >> I AGREE. I THINK IT IS A GOOD TIME FOR A BREAK. WE WILL MOVE TO A DIFFERENT PART OF THIS SELF-ASSESSMENT. WE WILL COME BACK TO THIS, AND I THINK THAT YOU HAVE HIT ON ONE OF THE CRUX OF THE MATTER IS THAT IT IS THAT FINE BALANCE BETWEEN DISAGREE RESPECTIVELY AN ISSUE IN FRONT OF YOU, IS YOUR JOB, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ON WHAT WE ARE GOING OUT FOR FOR A LEVY OR A BOND, AND YOU KNOW, THE ROBUST CONVERSATION WHETHER THINK WHAT WE NEED TO SPEND IT ON AND THAT IS YOUR JOB. SOMEBODY STARTS GOING OFF ABOUT SOMETHING THIS OWN FACEBOOK THAT DAY AND IS NOT EVEN ON THE AGENDA. THAT'S WHERE THEY THINK I'M BRINGING THIS ISSUE FORWARD, AND LOOK, AND DO MY JOB. THAT'S NOT THE JOB. LEARNING TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THOSE TWO BEHAVIORS, IS KEY, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, NEED TO FIND A WAY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND NOT ALWAYS BE IN AGREEMENT. ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND THE TRUST AND RESPECT FROM THE BOARD THAT WE DO THIS WORK TOGETHER VERSUS THE MOMENTS WERE PEOPLE JUST PERFORMING FOR THE CAMERA. I CALL IT THE FREE VENUE ENOUGH OR FREE PERFORMANCE VENUE, RIGHT? OKAY SO, LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK. AND KIND OF, WE WILL NOODLE OVER HOW THAT IS GOBE CREATED INTO AGO BUT WE WILL COME BACK AND LOOK AT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO LOOK THROUGH THE REST OF THE BOARD SELF-ASSESSMENT AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE WE WANT TO JUMP INTO. ALL RIGHT, 10:12 AM? OKAY.>> THANK YOU. >> WE ARE READY TO RESTART OUR STUDY SESSION. >> OKAY, WELCOME BACK. JUST TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE WHERE WE ARE AT, WE GOING TO THE BOARD SELF-ASSESSMENT USING IT AS A LAUNCHING PAD FOR THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WORK.E ARE HOPING TO DO NEXT YEAR AND, REALLY COME UP WITH SOME NICE FRAMING OF OUR GOALS ARE READY AROUND SUSTAINABILITY OF BOARD RULES AND WHAT WE WANT THAT TO LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD AND THE TOPIC WE JUST WRAPPED UP WAS HOW WE IS KIND OF UNDER THE FIRM OF TREATING EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT BUT REALLY, HOW TO COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER, COMMUNICATING WITH STAFF AND COMMUNICATING WITH THE COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT IS RESPECTFUL IN THIS ERA OF ANGER TOWARDS SCHOOL BOARDS AND IN THE CONTEXT OF A LARGE DISTRICT, THE THINGS MOVE SLOWLY AND HOW WE GET THINGS DONE IN A WAY THAT ACTUALLY GETS THINGS DONE AND IS NOT ABOUT JUST PERFORMING FOR RIVERS WATCHING. THAT SUMMARIZED WHAT THIS BOOK WAS THE CONVERSATION? DOES THAT REFLECT WHAT YOU UNDERSTOOD? OKAY, WE TALKED ABOUT DOGS! ANYWAY. DID PEOPLE HAVE A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THOSE SELF-ASSESSMENT? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE KIND OF A BIG BUCKET. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY COMMUNICATION SEEMS TO BE A PERSISTENT TOPIC FROM LAST YEAR THIS YEAR. >> YES, I WOULD AGREE. SOMEBODY HAD BROUGHT THAT UP, I CALL IT THE FOREVER CONVERSATION, NO DISTRICT HAS FIGURED OUT THE PERFECT WAY WHERE THEY'RE ABLE TO REACH [01:25:03] EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IS GOING ON AND KNOWS THAT THEY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH BOARD MEMBERS. IT IS ALWAYS A WORK IN PROGRESS AND I THINK IT IS ALWAYS AN IMPORTANT GOAL FOR BOARS TO SET FOR THEMSELVES, TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT WORK AROUND COMMUNICATION. WITH THAT, WE TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT HOW WE COMMUNICATE AND MAYBE, WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE ABOUT WHY, AND WHAT ARE MORE SPECIFIC GOALS WE HAVE AROUND COMMUNICATION. >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RESULTS WHEN THEY RANK THEM, AND WE LOOK AT THE ONES WITH THE BOTTOM OF THE RANKING, SEVERAL OF THEM TOUCH ON COMMUNICATION IN DIFFERENT WAYS. AND WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE ZENO SEEK PUBLIC INPUT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND THE GHOST TO DO ADDITIONAL WORK IN THAT AREA. FOLLOW AN EFFECTIVE PROCESS RESPOND TO QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS, COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK FROM CITIZENS. THAT'S A PIECE WE'RE STILL SORT OF, WE HAVE WRITTEN PROCESS KIND OF BUT IF WE ARE NOT CONSISTENT WE WORKING TO TRY AND DO THAT SO I STILL THINK THAT PIECE IS STILL, AND CLEARLY WE AS A BOARD DON'T BELIEVE WE ARE QUITE. EITHER BECAUSE AS WE ACTUALLY RANK THE LOWEST, COMMUNICATING PROACTIVELY, INFORMATION THAT ADDRESSES ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT'S FROM A BOARD PERSPECTIVE, WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT, THERE'S THE PEACE THAT THINK ABOUT REGARDS TO COMMUNICATION THAT I SAW THROUGH HERE. AREAS WE COULD THINK ABOUT. AND HOW TO BUILD THOSE PROCESSES INTO THE BOARD WORK PLAN, OUR LINKAGE SESSIONS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE HARDEST TO PEACE TO CONSISTENTLY DO FROM YEAR TO YEAR TO YEAR. AND TO BUILD IT INTO PRACTICE, WE TEND TO AD HOC IT IN THEN IT DISAPPEARS AND WE AD HOC IT BACK IN AS OPPOSED TO JUST BEING A PRACTICE THAT WE DO AS A BOARD. AS A THINK OF YOU SAYING CONCERNS OF TURNOVER ON THOSE THINGS THE MORE WE BUILD PRACTICES AS A WAY OF BEING, AS PART OF THE BOARDS WORK. THEN THAT CAN REVILE WITH REGARDLESS OF WHAT INDIVIDUALS SITS IN THE SEAT. CHRIS? >> SO, THE, SOMETHING REALLY INTRIGUED BY. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A CHALLENGE FOR ME, I FIND IT A CHALLENGE, IT'S INTERESTING TO WATCH AS DIFFERENT MEMBERS MOVE IN AND OUT OF SEATS. THE NOTION THAT WE CAN DEFINE A ROLE, EACH OF US COMES IN AND REDEFINES THE ROLE FOR OURSELVES, BOTH IN TERMS OF THE PRACTICALITY OF IF IT'S NOT LIFE BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF PARTICULAR INTEREST. AND SO, I AM WITH YOU ON TRYING TO I THINK, THE CULTURAL PIECES, DEFINITELY IN TERMS OF HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMUNITY, WHAT EXPECTATIONS A BOARD MEMBER HAS FOR COMMUNICATING. WHEN THE BOARD HAS MADE -- WHAT SORT OF THINGS HAVE WE DONE? BUT THE THING THAT GETS INTERESTING TO ME, THINGS LIKE, DOES THE BOARD FOLLOW A DEFINED PROCESS FOR GATHERING INPUT PRIOR TO MAKING DECISIONS? THAT IS WHAT I'VE ALWAYS FOUND INTERESTING. BECAUSE A DEFINED PROCESS FOR GATHERING INPUT ON EVERYTHING KIND OF ASSUMES ON EVERY DECISION WE MAKE, WE SHOULD BE GETTING PUBLIC INPUT. THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN PROBLEMATIC FOR ME. PART OF THE DEAL AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED IS THAT YOU EXPLAIN TO THE COMMUNITY, WHY YOU LIKE TO BE PART OF THE SCHOOL BOARD, THEY GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU THINK AND EVERY TOPIC EVERY TIME. THERE'S A QUESTION THAT COMES TO THE DISTRICT, I JUST DON'T, MAYBE IT IS JUST I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE ALL THAT MUCH BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT GOT ME TO BE A BOARD MEMBER. BUT THAT'S NOT SAYING A CONVERSATION THAT WE CAN HAVE AROUND THESE THINGS. SO FOR ME, FOLLOWING DEFINED PROCESS FOR GATHERING EFFORT, I'M ACTUALLY CONVINCED WE NEED A DEFINED PROCESS FOR GATHERING INPUT. BECAUSE THERE ARE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, SOME OF WHICH [01:30:02] REALLY DO REQUIRE PUBLIC INPUT, SOME LEGAL AND A BUNCH OF OTHER TIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AND THERE IS A TIME TO MAKE A DEFINED PROCESS. SO, I DON'T KNOW, I'M CONFLICTED ABOUT SOME OF THESE WEATHER AND I ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT LOWER SCORING SET OF QUESTIONS. THE OTHER ONE THAT'S AN EXAMPLE FOR ME IS ACTUALLY ACROSS THE STATE OR NATION. WHILE I APPRECIATE THE VALUE IN HAVING SOMEONE ON THE BOARD IN THE ROLE I PERSONALLY HAVE MUCH MORE INTEREST IN COLLABORATING WITH COLLEAGUES TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE IN COLLABORATING WITH COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE REGION, STATE OR NATION REGARDING MUCH OF ANYTHING. SO, IT IS THE NEAREST CONVERSATION HAVE RUN RIVER PARTIES AND ARE THEY SOMETHING WE EXPECT EVERY BOARD MEMBER TO HAVE THE SAME PRIORITIES? I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT IS ACTUALLY A VALUABLE THING FOR US ALL TO HAVE THE SAME PARTIES ARE THE SAME JOB MODEL FOR WHAT WE DO AS A BOARD. [INAUDIBLE] >> I WONDER IF WE WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE MEAN BY DEFINED PRACTICE. BECAUSE, I THINK THE AUTOMATIC ASSUMPTION IS THAT -- WOULD MAKE A DECISION, MAY BECOME A DEFINED PRACTICE IS POLICY GOVERNANCE OR THE CHANGE OF PLAN. THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A CRITICAL DECISION, YOU HAVE INPUT FROM THE STRATEGIC PLAN, AND SAY OKAY, BASED ON WHAT WE SAID IT'S IMPORTANT AS A COMMUNITY, THIS IS THE WAY THE DECISION IS TO GO OR, WE RECEIVED COMMUNITY INPUT REPORTS TOGETHER POLICY GOVERNANCE AND POLICIES, SO NOW ONLY MAKING THIS DECISION ABOUT X, WE ARE REFERENCING WHERE WHAT OUR POLICIES ARE TELLING US TO DO. AND THAT, MAYBE THAT CAN QUALIFY AS A DEFINED PLAN OF HOW WE ARE COMMUNICATING HOW WE ARE CHECKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THEN IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT EVERY TIME YOU HAVE A DECISION FOR THE BOARD WE HAVE THE WHOLE OF THE COMMUNITY OR IT CAN BE YOU HAVE COMMITTEE SET UP AND THEY REPORT OUT. WE'VE GOT A MOMENT OF A TASK FORCE THAT MEETS REGULARLY THAT SCOTT STAFF FROM THE COMMUNITY ON AND THEY REPORT THE MINUTES AND SO IT CAN HAVE A BROADER DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE.UT THEN, HAVING THAT CLEAR TO EVERYBODY, THIS IS WHY WE ARE MAKING THESE DECISIONS IS BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON THIS RESOURCE THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY OUR COMMUNITY. >> I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANT. YEAH. [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T THINK THE BOARD -- I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. I GUESS I DON'T WANT TO SAY WHAT I THINK IT DOES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT A DEFINED PROCESS WOULD BE I DON'T KNOW WHAT DECISIONS WE WOULD BE REFERRING TO THINK IT JUST DEPENDS. I THINK SIRI HAS SOMETHING TO ADD THEN I'LL START TALKING MORE.> OKAY, HOLD YOU TALKING MORE. >> I CURRENTLY TALK MORE BUT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, I REMEMBER REMARK THAT WAS BROUGHT WHICH WAS THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATORY FRAMEWORK. IT ACTUALLY WAS A SIX BY SIX GRADE ANY SORT OF MADE, SORT OF CONCEPTS OF HOW MUCH COMMUNITY INPUT AND WHERE YOU SEEK CERTAIN THINGS. ARE YOU JUST INFORMING? ARE YOU GATHERING? IS A COMMUNITY MAKING THE DECISION? IS IT -- THAT WAS A FRAMEWORK WE HAD DONE AT ONE POINT WITHIN A STRUCTURE OF A THOUGHT TO GO FORWARD. IT WAS HELPFUL FROM MY VIEW, AS A BOARD MEMBER, TO UNDERSTAND WHEN WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GO OUT TO COMMUNITY AND ASK THOSE QUESTIONS? AND WHEN IS YOUR POLICY ALREADY DEFINING AND SO THAT IS SORT OF WHAT I THINK ABOUT, AS WE THINK OF COMMUNICATION ALSO WHEN I [01:35:01] CAME ON THE BOARD, IT WAS DEFINITION OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WERE DIFFERENT. AND THAT CAUSE CONFLICT IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, AS TO WHAT I BELIEVE INPUT WAS, WAS NOT WHAT WAS OCCURRING, BUT THE OTHER SIDE DEFINITELY GOT THERE WE DO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND SO, HAVING TO START TO BRIDGE THAT AND COME TO A COMMON AGREEMENT, SO THERE ISN'T A BACK-AND-FORTH ALL THE TIME? I THINK THAT'S THE GOAL AND WRITEUP TO GET OUT OF THIS, WHAT DO WE AGREE ON IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT? BUT THAT IS THE FRAMEWORK. ALSO I WANT TO SAY. >> ALL RIGHT, CHRIS HAND WENT BACK DOWN SO I WILL GO BACK TO YOU, ERIC. >> I'M JUST KIND OF WRESTLING WITH, WHAT ARE THE CRITICAL DECISIONS WE ARE ALL THINKING ABOUT HERE ANSWERING THE QUESTION? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, WHEN I THINK ABOUT I SAY WHAT ARE THE CRITICAL DECISIONS THE BOARD MAKES? BOND AND LEVY PLANNING. YOU KNOW, BUT THOSE DISC VISIONS ARE, I THINK THE BOARD SHOULD HAVE A PROCESS FOR GATHERING INPUT PRIOR TO MAKING THE DECISION TO JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A PROCESS THAT APPLIES ACROSS ALL. I DON'T KNOW. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THIS. I HAVE A VAGUE RECKLESS OF A SIX BY SIX GRADE. I PERSONALLY HAVE ALWAYS HAD A COMPASS ASKED FOR, THERE ARE PIECES, ESPECIALLY I MEAN, IT HAPPENS ABOUT ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS WE HAVE BUDGET CUTS. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY CRITICAL. WE GET PUBLIC COMMENT AND IN A FORMAL WAY. EVERY TWO OR THREE AS WE HAVE A BOUNDARY TO PROCESS SOMEWHERE. AGAIN, SOMETHING INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT BUT VERY SPECIFIC AND RECURRING. IT'S NOT QUICK TO INVENT NEW PROCESSES NOR DO HAVE TO HAVE A SINGLE PROCESS THAT APPLIES TO BOTH. THE THIRD BEING THE LEVY AND BOND TOPICS WHICH MAKE REQUIRING PAIN IN THE BUTT, IT CAN DO FOR THE BOARD IS GET OFF BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE BONDS. BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PIECES OF IT WHERE REALLY IMPORTANT BITS RECURRING MAKES SENSE. AND YET, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY SORT OF A REMARK THAT COULD HAVE PREPARED US FOR THE PANDEMIC. AS FAR AS PUBLIC INPUT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, DEREK, GET MORE INTO THE QUESTION OF, I DO LIKE THE NOTION OF TRYING HERE ARE THE POLICIES AND PLANS. AND COMMUNICATING. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO MOVE FAST AND COMMUNICATE AND COMMUNICATING THAT STUFF, I WAS TRYING TO REFER BACK TO, HERE'S THE VALUES THAT WE AGREED ON THAT HAVE LET US DOWN HERE. IT IS SOMETHING, RECOGNIZE IS NOT SOMETHING YOU DO BECAUSE DOING HOMEWORK IS ONE THING TRYING TO SELF REFLECT A NOT GOOD AT THAT BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUAL FOLLOW-UP COMMUNICATIONS, THAT'S REALLY MY WEAK POINTS SO, -- >> SORRY. MARK. >> I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT REALLY, AND WHAT BEEN HEARING, IS THE IDEA OF INPUT AT SPECIFIC POINTS. STRATEGIC POINTS, THE BUSINESS PROCESS, AND THAT IS CLEARLY WELL DEFINED WITH IT IS A BOND AND LEVY, WHETHER IT IS CHANGES, WHATEVER, THAT IS FAIRLY WELL GIVEN. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE DON'T DO WELL SOMETIMES IS THE MONITORING AND RECEIVING INPUT ON A REGULAR BASIS, JUST, I KNOW IT'S A VERY IMPERFECT TOOL. I MONITOR I'M ON ALL THE HOA FACEBOOK PAGES, ALL THE PARENT PAGES, UNLESS I MISSED ONE. AND I TRIED MONITOR WHAT'S [01:40:02] GOING ON IN THE PUBLIC AND NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS INPUT TO BE QUITE FRANK ATREIDES DENNIS ISLANDS AND LISTEN. AND I FIND THAT IF I KEPT SOMETHING I CAN PASS ON TO JOHN WHOEVER, AND SAY, WE CAN PUT THIS FIRE OUT EASILY WHEN IT'S IN AMBER WITH THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE -- WHAT A TRY AND DO IS ENGAGE A LOT ON A PERSONAL BASIS WITH FOLKS, WHEN THEY HAVE A SITUATION THAT THERE FIGHTING ABOUT BEFORE THEY COME AT US WITH PITCHFORKS AND TORI CAN WORK THE REST OF EVERYBODY ESPECIALLY JOHN WHEN IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUE. AND AGAIN, IT'S VERY, NOT WHAT WE ARE TALKING BORDERS OR BUDGET, OR BONDS AND LEVEES. IT'S JUST DAY-TO-DAY. >> ERIC. >> I'M GLAD THAT WAS BROUGHT UP. BECAUSE I HAVE THE OPPOSITE OPINION. ONE OF THE REASONS I CLOSE ALL MY SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS WAS THAT I FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPAIRING MY WORK AS A BOARD MEMBER. THAT FOCUSING ON THE COMMUNICATION THAT WAS RAISED ON FACEBOOK OR WAS NOT FOR ME AT LEAST. FELT LIKE IT WAS NOT HELPFUL. AND NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF, NOT HELPFUL FOR MY DECISION-MAKING AS A BOARD MEMBER. SO. I DON'T KNOW WHY I THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO SAY. BUT, I GUESS IT IS TO SAY, HOW WOULD WE AS A BOARD DEAL WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THOSE FORMS ARE. AND I'M NOT SAYING ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER BUT I GUESS THAT WE ARE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. I'M TRYING TO SAY I'M HAPPY BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT RAISES THE ISSUE OF MAYBE WE DO NEED TO HAVE A DEFINED PROCESS FOR HOW WE GATHER INFORMATION BECAUSE MY VIEW IS DIFFERENT THAN MARKS. AND I THINK THAT HOW IT FEEDS INTO THE BOARD, IS IMPORTANT, IT IS NOT SOMETHING I THOUGHT ABOUT BEFORE. >> THANK YOU, CHRIS? >> THIS IS AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION. THE IRONY IS, I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR SOMEBODY TO HAVE THEIR FINGER ON THE PULSE OF SOCIAL MEDIA FOR THE DISTRICT. AND I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN NECESSARILY KEEPING AN EAR TO THE GROUND, THIS IS PART OF THE REASON THAT I'VE ADVOCATED CIGNA SOMEONE TRY TO INTERCEDE AND PREVENT THE FIRE BEFORE IT STARTS. THAT SAID, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY HESITANT TO CONSIDER THAT AND THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BOARD ROLE IN SOMETHING A BOARD MEMBER CAN DO. INDIVIDUAL BOARDMEMBER DON'T THINK IS NECESSARILY A BAD IDEA FOR THEM IF THEY HAVE THE TIME AND INTEREST AND WHATSOEVER TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THIS STUFF BUT FOR A BOARD TO BE EXPECTED THAT ALL FULL MEMBERS THAT YOU ACCESS THE BOARD THROUGH FACEBOOK, IS A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN. AND IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, AT THIS POINT MARK GOT ME BY A COUPLE OF YEARS BUT FAMILIAR WITH VARIOUS STRATEGIES. I DON'T DO INSTAGRAM IN FRONT OF THIS THING CALLED TWITTER. ALL OF THESE DIMENSIONS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO GO THERE BECAUSE I'M NOT READY ACTUALLY WOULDN'T WANT TO MAKE IT PART OF MY EXPECTATION. IT BECOMES A CHALLENGE OF, IS THIS SOMETHING WE EXPECT OF THE BOARD? I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SET AS EXPECTATION FOR THE BOARD BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, IF IT IS THINGS BEFORE THEY EXPLODE, YOU ARE MONITORING IT CAN BE A FULL-TIME JOB AND WE ARE DEFINITELY NOT PAID ENOUGH TO DO THAT. BUT, SHOULD THERE BE A ROLE IN [01:45:01] THE DISTRICT, THAT IS TAKING CARE OF THAT? AND PERHAPS REPORTING UP TO THE BOARD, CERTAINLY. SO, I WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE THAT I DON'T THINK IT IS USELESS, I DO THINK IS DANGEROUS TO SET AN EXPECTATION THE BOARD WILL ALWAYS DO THIS. >> OKAY, I'M GOING TO DO MY LAWYER THING AND THIS IS USUALLY WHERE THE WHEELS COME OFF THE WAGON. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING SAID. I WILL CAUTION, THERE IS SOME WORRY AROUND OPMA AND SOCIAL MEDIAS. IF YOUR THREE BOARD MEMBERS ON THE SAME SITE AND, I DON'T MEAN FACEBOOK AS A WHOLE. IF YOU HAVE THE LAKE WASHINGTON DISCUSSION GROUP, IF YOU GOT THREE BOARD MEMBERS ON THAT, ALL IT TAKES IS ONE OF YOU, LIKING SOMETHING OR RESPONDING TO SOMETHING AND POTENTIALLY CAN BE CALLED A MEETING. SO, I JUST GENERALLY -- I AM WITH YOU, ERICA. I WAS THRILLED WHEN I LEARNED THIS BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, EXCELLENT! EVERY EXCUSE TO GET OUT.HEN THOSE THAT REALLY JUST ABSOLUTE HAD TO BE IN THOSE SITES, THEY CAN BE THE TWO FROM THE BOARD ON IT AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO PARTICIPATE. WE DO HAVE SOMEONE IN THE DISTRICT THAT MONITOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND WE HAVE A NORTH SHORE DISCUSSION PAGE AND SO, THEY MONITOR THOSE. AND WE ALL HAVE, I CALL THEM NORMALS. THAT WILL BE LIKE JUST GIVE ME AHEAD'S UP, THEY ARE RALLYING ON THIS GROUP WHEN THEY ARE COMING TO A BOARD MEETING OR SOMETHING IS BEING DISCUSSED SOMEONE WE CAN'T SAY IS THIS REALLY TRUE? NO, THEN IT'S A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME BUT -- IS SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF AND SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. WE WILL DELVE INTO THE SOCIAL MEDIA HOW WE WANT TO HANDLE THAT AS WELL BECAUSE IT IS UNFORTUNATELY PART OF ALL OF OUR LIVES AND IT DOES DO THINGS. I'LL JUST THROW OUT A QUESTION. WHEN WE SAY COMMUNITY, WHO IS THAT? AND SO WHILE YOU'RE PONDERING THAT WE WILL LET MARK GO. OKAY, >> AND THING EVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TWO OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ON THE SAME PAGE IN THIS DISTRICT OR ON FACEBOOK IN ANY ONE TIME. DOCTOR CARLSON ALLUDED TO, MY FINGERS AT THE PAGE I START MY CAREER ON A TYPEWRITER, I DETEST SOCIAL MEDIA. I ALSO RECOGNIZE HAVING BEEN IN COMMUNICATIONS SINCE I WAS, THAT'S MY CAREER, I RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO MONITOR SITUATIONS. I SPENT MOST MY CAREER IN SITUATION MANAGEMENT, COMMUNICATIONS AND KNOW WHAT FOLKS ARE THINKING EVEN IF IT'S A SMALL SEGMENT. I LOOK AT IT AS AN UNOFFICIAL SURVEY, OFTEN IT IS NOT JUST THEM THERE ARE SOME FOLKS YOU NEVER SEE BUT ONCE IN A BLUE MOON. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM THEM. I WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE ROLE. WHEN I FIRST BROUGHT THIS UP YEARS AGO, I WAS TOLD, WOULD HAVE THE STAFF TIME, WE HAVE TOO MANY THINGS WE ARE WORKING ON PROACTIVELY TO REACH OUT OR PROACTIVELY FOR OUR DISTRICT TO PUT ON THE WEBSITE SITTING BACK AND WAITING. MY DEAR PROACTIVE IS GETTING OUT THERE AND ACTUALLY TALKING TO PEOPLE. BUT THAT IS MY MEDIA BACKGROUND TOO. MY POINT IS THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO MONITOR, STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO, I DO TO AN EXTENT, AND I WILL DO IT AS FAR AS I HAVE THE TIME TO. I'VE BEEN LED ON PAGES THAT I THINK THE ADMINISTRATORS KNOW I'M ON. DURING THE PANDEMIC THEY STARTED A PAGE THEY LET ME ON THE AIR. I JUST SAT BACK AND LISTENED. I KNEW A PROTEST WAS COMING, IN FACT, I WAS LED ON THE PITCHING IN MORNING PAID FOR NORTH ROAD THE BEAUTY OF IT, WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT LAKE WASHINGTON [01:50:03] DOES THIS SO MUCH BETTER, AND OUR PEOPLE SAY, NORTH SHORE DOES THIS MUCH BETTER. I FEEL VERY GOOD BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS THE GRASS IS GREENER AND IS VERY REASSURING IN A LOT OF WAYS. AGAIN, IF WE DON'T LISTEN, BEFORE A HINDU TELEPHONE, YOU HAD WHATEVER. EMAILS. NOW, THIS IS A WAY TO KIND OF TAP IN QUIETLY, AND LISTEN. I TRY TO KEEP MY CONTACT IN OR AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE, SOMETHING THAT COULD DO ON THE WEBSITE OR I CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, LET ME BRING THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE ADMINISTRATION, IF THEY MAY NOT BE AWARE OF WHAT THE ISSUE IS, WHETHER IT IS CROSSWALKS, WHATEVER. IT'S USUALLY SOMETHING MONDAY. RARELY DOES IT TO BE THE CRESCENDO THAT BECOMES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU CAN CATCH IT EARLY THAT BECOMES A HASSLE FIRE. AND RECOGNIZE, UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT TOTALLY AND I CAN ALSO APPRECIATE ERIC BUT I'M A LITTLE DIFFERENT CAMP AND MY TRAINING IS MUCH DIFFERENT. SO BE IT. >> OKAY, I'VE ASKED TO THINK ABOUT WHO IS THE COMMUNITY? NOT GOING TO ADD ANOTHER. THERE IS A SOCIAL MEDIA WORLD OUT THERE. RIGHT NOW, YOU'VE GOT MARK REPRESENTED THE BOARD ON SOCIAL MEDIA. BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT MARK IS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD. WHEN WE LOOKING AT THIS IN THE FRAME OF SUSTAINABILITY AND HOW WE WILL BRING ON POTENTIALLY, NEW PEOPLE, THINK ABOUT HOW DO YOU WANT THE SOCIAL MEDIA MORAL BEING HANDLED, IN TERMS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD. ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ONE PERSON BE THE DESIGNATED PERSON RESPOND? AND TRUST? LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW YOU WANT THAT OPERATING. THROUGH THE LAKE WASHINGTON SCHOOL BOARD. OKAY, SIRI? TO GO TO COMMUNITY, ANSWER THE QUESTION. I WOULD SAY, IT IS OUR STUDENTS, PARENTS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND WHAT IMPORT YOU ARE SEEKING AROUND THE SORTS OF THINGS I WOULD GO THERE. I THINK THE KEY PIECE I THINK ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS SOCIAL MEDIA IS WHAT PEOPLE CHOOSE TO ENGAGE WITH US AND I THINK THE BOARD HAS AN ACTIVE ROLE IN HOW TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK WE DID A VERY GOOD JOB THROUGH EQUITY AND BEING ABLE TO GIVE THOSE LINKAGES AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT AND I WONDER, HOW DO WE CONTINUE THAT WORK AS A BOARD AND BUILD BACK IN?SO THAT, I WOULD AGREE WITH CHRIS AND ERIC. I'VE BEEN USING SOCIAL MEDIA AS A PLACE TO INFORM MY ROLE AS A BOARD MEMBER. BECAUSE OFTEN IT IS OPERATIONAL AND I WOULD HOPE WE HAVE STAFF WHO IS CURRENTLY DOING THAT AND THAT IS THEIR ROLE. IN THE OUR PIECE IS REALLY TO BE LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE AND BE ABLE TO PULL FORWARD, AND IF WE ARE DOING OUR JOB AND LINKING WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGH FOCUS GROUPS, THROUGH SCHOOL SITE VISITS AT LEAST THAT WAY TO GET PIECES AND OTHER COMPONENTS, WE CAN START TO INFORM FROM THAT. I GUESS THOSE ARE THE PIECES I WOULD LOOK AT IN REGARDS TO COMMUNITY THAT HAS -- >> MY DOG HAVE LOTS OF OPINIONS RIGHT NOW. LEAH? >> I JUST REALIZED I'M TALKING REALLY SLOW, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE I HEAR MYSELF ON FEEDBACK AND IT'S REALLY DISORIENTING. SO, TO ANSWER THE COMMUNITY PIECE, I WOULD SAY, OBVIOUSLY, IT IS TAXPAYERS WITHIN OUR AREAS. BUT IT IS ALSO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT TAXPAYERS BECAUSE THEY MIGHT STILL BE EMPLOYED BY THE DISTRICT, THEIR KIDS MIGHT BE ATTENDING THE SCHOOLS, IT IS ALSO PEOPLE, FAMILIES THAT DON'T EVEN NECESSARILY LIVE HERE BECAUSE THEY MIGHT BE SENDING THEIR KIDS HERE IF THEY ARE IMMIGRANTS AND IF THEY ARE NOT PHYSICALLY PRESENT WITH YOU KNOW, THEIR KIDS. SO THERE IS, IT IS A VERY BROAD DEFINITION OF COMMUNITY. [01:55:01] GOING BACK TO THE SOCIAL MEDIA. I AM IN THE SAME BOAT AS ERIC. I JOINED FACEBOOK WHEN IT CAME OUT, WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE. AND AFTER LIKE ONE YEAR, I IMMEDIATELY LEFT AND NEVER LOOKED BACK. BRIEFLY, DURING MY CAMPAIGN I WAS LIKE, OKAY MAYBE I CAN CONSIDER THAT THE AND QUICKLY RECALLED WHY I HATED IT. SO -- [LAUGHTER] I DON'T THINK YOU COULD PAY ME TO GO BACK TO SOCIAL MEDIA. BUT THERE IS VALIDITY AND CONCERN IN HAVING A SINGLE BOARD MEMBER, BE THE ONLY PERSON. I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE IN ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF THE INTENT OF THE BOARD MEMBER TO BE A FLY ON THE WALL AND LISTEN, OR GIVE ADVICE, THAT IS JUST A LINK TO OUR WEBSITE OR WHATEVER IT IS, TO ANSWER QUESTION. MOST COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WHO ARE LISTENING AND READING TO THOSE RESPONSES ARE PROBABLY GOING TO INTERPRET WHATEVER THEY READ, AS A REPRESENTATION OR STANCE OF THE REST OF THE BOARD AND I THINK IT IS PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE -- THERE ARE VERY FEW INSTANCES WHERE A SINGLE BOARD MEMBER WILL GO AND REPRESENT THE OPINIONS AND STANCE OF THE BOARD AS A WHOLE. AND SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT CAN HAPPEN REALLY QUICKLY, RIGHT? A LIKE OF A POST. PEOPLE INTERPRET THAT TO BE, OUR SCHOOL BOARD THINKS THAT BECAUSE THIS ONE INDIVIDUAL DID THAT. >> THANK YOU, LEAH. CHRIS? LEAH I'M SO SORRY, I WILL -- >> YOU ARE FINE, SANDY, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT! >> I MISSED WHATEVER IT WAS. >> I KEEP MISPRONOUNCING HER NAME.>> SORRY! >> SO, FIRST THING. I DON'T SEE THIS AS COMMUNITY AS SEARS COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY OF STUDENTS AND FAMILIES. WE HAVE COMMUNITY TEACHERS AND STAFF. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY OF CONSTITUENTS AND WE HAVE A COMMUNITY OF THE CITIES AND RESIDENTS IN THE CITIES. WE HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT WHO ARE HIGHLY EDUCATED HAVE KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS AND NOT ABLE TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CITIZENS. EVEN SAYING A REPRESENT MY VOTERS ISN'T REPRESENTING ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IN THE DISTRICT. BUT ACTUALLY WANTED TO GET BACK TO THE COMMON IS A REALLY INTERESTING DISCUSSION. I DON'T WANT TO JUST RAILROAD MARK. ONE OF THE INFORMAL ROLES OF A BOARD MEMBER THAT I HAVE ALWAYS RATHER ENJOYED IS TRYING TO HELP FRUSTRATED CONSTITUENTS FIGURE OUT WHO THEY SHOULD BE TALKING TO. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT USED TO HAPPEN BY TELEPHONE. I DON'T THINK I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM THE CONSTITUENT IN SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS. IT OCCASIONALLY DOES HAPPEN BY EMAIL AND THAT OF THE SORT OF THING YOU KNOW I REALIZE SOMEONE HAS A PROBLEM FIRST WAS LIKE OKAY, ARE YOU TALKING, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER 101. YOU GET A FRUSTRATED CONSTITUENT IN FRONT OF THE FIRST QUESTION TO ASK IS, HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE TEACHER ABOUT THIS? AND THEN HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE PRINCIPAL? BASICALLY, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE IN THE ROLES OF DECISION-MAKING AND DO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE FOR THE PROBLEM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I USUALLY START MY CONVERSATION WITH, I'M NOT THE PERSON YOU NEED TO BE TALKING TO ABOUT THIS BUT I WILL HELP YOU FIND THAT PERSON BECAUSE YOU SHOULDN'T WASTE YOUR TIME TALKING TO SOMEONE WHO IS NOT THE DECISION-MAKER. AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT INFORMAL ROLE REALLY IS IMPORTANT, IS NOT CRITICAL TO ME WHETHER YOU FIND SOMEONE THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA WE FIND SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY CAME INTO YOU BY EMAIL OR YOU FIND SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY CAME AND SPOKE TO THE BOARD AND YOU MANAGED TO GET THE BEFORE THE LEFT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, HAVE HAD SIDEBAR. I THINK PROBABLY STILL A TRUE AND CRITICAL ROLE FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT WHERE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY. A COMMUNITY MEMBER THAT IS PASSED OFF AS SOMETHING OUR DISTRICT HAS DONE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO. [02:00:02] THE BOARD IS AN OBVIOUS POINT OF CONTACT. IT IS NOT THE LAST POINT OF CONTACT AND IN MOST CASES IS NOT EVEN A SECOND POINT OF CONTACT.SO LET'S TALK TO YOUR PROBLEM AND FIGURE OUT WHO YOU SHOULD BE TALKING TO THEN I NEVER HEAR FROM THEM AGAIN WHICH ARE PRESENTLY LIKE BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE. AND SO, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, HELPING DIRECT FRUSTRATED CONSTITUENTS TO THE RIGHT POINT, HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE NOT TALKING THE RIGHT PERSON, YOU JUST GOING TO GET MORE FRUSTRATED. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION IF YOU COME TO THE SCHOOL BOARD SOMETHING THAT IS YOUR BUILDING PRINCIPAL DECISION, WE WILL KICK IT BACK DOWN TO -- WE ARE KICKING IT DOWN, WE ARE NOT THE DECISION-MAKER IN A CASE THAT SOMETHING SHOULD BE THE PRINCIPAL DECISION. BUT THE SUPERINTENDENT WHO WOULD BE IN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, IS ALSO GOING TO KICK IT BACK DOWN TO THE PRINCIPAL UNTIL YOU TALK TO THE PRINCIPAL. THOSE ARE THINGS I THINK IT IS POTENTIALLY USEFUL BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT NOT SO MUCH WHETHER TO BE ASSOCIATED BY HOW TO BUILD SOCIAL MEDIA. BECAUSE IT IS NOT LIKE THE REST OF YOU WHEN I GET ANGRY EMAILS FROM A CONSTITUENT. I WILL BRING INTO THE LOOP IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS EVERY JEW MAY LIVE IN. I'LL BRING YOU TO LOOP IF THE BIG PICTURE BUT IF IT'S I'VE GOT SOMEONE PISSED OFF TO THE PRINCIPAL AT ICS, I WILL POINT THEM TO THE PRINCIPAL AT ICS. WE HAVE AN ESTABLISHED CULTURE OF HOW YOU DO THAT AND THE CONVERSATION MIGHT BE IN TERMS OF LURKING ON, I'M NOT 100 PERCENT AGAINST HAVING SOMEONE WORKING ON THE BOARDS. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOTION OF THE RESPOND IN A PUBLIC CHANNEL, IT MAKES OVER YOU THE ONLY SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER. AND TO ME, IT IS FOR THE EQUIVALENT OF, IF THEY ARE SITTING A PRIVATE MESSAGE HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR. RATHER THAN A PUBLIC POST SAYING, HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. COULD IT BE A MORE PRODUCTIVE WAY TO NOT MAKE THE REST OF THE BOARD FEEL LIKE MY GOSH, THEIR ROAD REPRESENTING AS IT IS US. IN CONTEXT. SO, ANYWAY, THAT'S ONE KIND OF TRYING TO FIND A WAY THROUGH HERE BECAUSE I MEAN MARK, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU ENJOY THIS BUT YOU FIND IT IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT YOU DO IT. LET'S BE HONEST. NOBODY ENJOYS DEALING WITH THE CONSTITUENT IS NOT SOMETHING WE GET UP IN THE MORNING AND WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT BEFORE BREAKFAST. AND SO, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW TO DO THAT SO THAT IT DOESN'T WIND UP BEING A BIGGER CONVERSATION. HOW DO WE FIT THIS INTO THE EXISTING MODEL? WHO CAN EMAIL ON A THURSDAY NIGHT FROM A CONSTITUENT AND YOU WILL LIKE, EITHER HERE'S MY ADVICE HOW TO DO THAT, AND EMAIL THEM BACK OR JUST A BIGGER PROBLEM. SO JUST HAVING AN INFORMAL STRUCTURE FOR HOW TO INTERACT WITH CONSTITUENTS TO SOCIAL MEDIA RATHER THAN BLANKET, MIGHT BE A MORE USEFUL CONVERSATION. >> THANK YOU, GO AHEAD, MARK. >> I RARELY COMMON FACTOR IN EVERY ISSUE AN OPINION I WILL SAY SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL, NOT FOR THE BOARD. I PREFACE IT IN THAT WAY. AND RARELY DO I EVEN DO THAT MUCH. I'M ASKING QUESTIONS TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND NORMALLY, IT'S REALLY A FIRESTORM OR AN ANGRY PERSON, I ASK. MAINLY I DON'T CARE TO BE CRUCIFIED ONLINE BECAUSE IT IS. [INAUDIBLE] BASICALLY. IT IS, WHILE I DON'T MIND MAKING SURE THAT HEAR PEOPLE AND THEY KNOW THEY AT LEAST HAVE ONE YEAR ON SOCIAL MEDIA, I DON'T LIKE BEING A TARGET. I'M ENOUGH OF A COMMUNICATOR THAT I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO GO TO MY OWN LYNCHING. AND SO I TRY TO AVOID THAT. LIKE THE PLAGUE. IN FACT, AGAIN, THAT IS WHY -- I WILL FOLLOW UP AND SAY, CALL ME, ONCE WE GET ON PMS TO CALL ME LET'S DISCUSS THIS. BECAUSE ONE THING I HATE ABOUT INTERNET OR LAPTOPS IS THAT I DON'T TYPE FAST ENOUGH TO HAVE A DAMN CONVERSATION. I'M SORRY. I START OUT A TWO FINGER TYPIST BUT AT THIS POINT I DON'T CARE. AND TO ME IT'S NOT PERSONAL. AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE APPRECIATE IT AS MUCH AS THINK YOU ARE ACTUALLY LISTENING. AT ONE PERSON AT ONE POINT, AND THIS IS YEARS AGO. [02:05:02] SHE GOT MAD ON ONE OF THE FACEBOOK PAGES. AND I ASKED HER TO PM ME AND I SAID, WHAT WE SET UP A TIME TO CALL? AND SO, SHE DID, AND IT WAS SOMETHING REALLY STUPID. IT WAS THE IDEA THAT SHE DIDN'T LIKE THE TRAFFIC FLOW AT WHATEVER SCHOOL IT WAS. IT WAS EVERGREEN. AND ONCE SHE GOT ON THE PHONE, I THINK I SAID HELLO, AND NOW WHAT CAN I HELP YOU WITH? AND FOR THE NEXT HOUR AND HALF OR TWO HOURS, I BASICALLY LISTENED. AND AT ONE POINT, TOWARD THE END SHE SAID, MY GOD, I CAN'T BELIEVE I'VE KEPT YOU ON THE PHONE THIS LONG! AND I SAID YOU HAD A CONCERN, YOU ARE UPSET. AND I HAD THE TIME TODAY. YOU HIT THE WEAK SPOT. AND SHE FIRST OF ALL, APOLOGIZE FOR KEEPING ME SO LONG. ANSWER JUST CAN'T BELIEVE HE STAYED WITH IT. IT IS AMAZING HOW, NEVER HEARD FROM THAT WOMAN AGAIN IN A NEVER SAW HER COMPLAINING AGAIN ONLINE. TO BE QUITE FRANK. THAT SAID, WE HAD SOME WRANGLERS. IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO THE INFIRMARY AT COLLEGE. AND YOU HAVE ONE NURSE SHE CALLED IT THE -- OR GREATER CAME AND EVERYONE BECAUSE HE NEEDED A HANDHELD. AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF SOCIAL MEDIA. TO BE QUITE FRANK I'M ONLY ON FACEBOOK BECAUSE I DETEST MANY OF THE OTHERS AND I CAN'T FIGURE OUT OTHERS. SO, IF I KNEW HOW TO OPERATE THOSE, I'D BE 30 YEARS OLD AND DOING THAT. THE PROBLEM WITH HAVING STAFF DO IT, THEY'VE GOT ASSIGNED RESPONSIBILITIES AND IT IS EXTREMELY TIME-CONSUMING. AND YOU ARE PAYING THOSE PEOPLE. NOT BY THE HOUR, AT LEAST BY THE WEEK. AND I'VE BEEN INFORMED A NUMBER OF TIMES, WE JUST DON'T HAVE TIME FOR IT. MY STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT SORT OF THING. WE ALSO AREN'T REALLY VERY GIVE AND TAKE IT TIMES. SOMEONE HAS TO BE OUT THERE AT LEAST LISTENING. IF WE ARE NOT, THEN WE ARE PUTTING OUR ENERGIES IN A VACUUM AND IGNORING PEOPLE BITCHING. WHEN WE IGNORE THEM THUS WHEN WE GET LOUDER AND IF I CAN KEEP THEM FROM POUNDING ON THE WINDOWS AT THE BOARD MEETING BY LISTENING AND NODDING MY HEAD, I'M GOING TO DO IT. AGAIN, IF YOU'RE TRAINED IN THAT, LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY. VERY EARLY IN MY CAREER, I WAS TOLD I DID NOT ANSWER THE PHONE WITHIN THREE RINGS, I WAS IN TROUBLE. AND TO THIS DAY, IF THE PHONE RINGS MORE THAN THREE TIMES, I HAVE A FIT. WITH MYSELF. I DIDN'T GET TO THE PHONE FAST ENOUGH AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY I'VE BEEN TAUGHT AND I'VE BEEN BREAD. ANYWAY. >> THANK YOU, MARK. I'M GOING TO LET LEAH AND JOHN TALK. THEN WE WILL MOVE TO CREATING OUR GOALS. BUT I JUST, I TELL THE STORY TO PRACTICALLY EVERY BOARD I WORK WITH. I'M A BIG BEVERLY CLEARY FAN. ONE OF THE RAMONA STORIES, THERE WAS A COMMERCIAL WHERE A CROWN APPEARED ON SOMEBODY'S HEAD WHEN THE EIGHTH A CERTAIN TYPE OF BUTTER. SO SHE WANTED TO BE LIKE THE COMMERCIAL AND WANTED A CROWN SO SHE WENT INTO THE FIELD AND USED -- TO CREATE THE CROWN AND PUT ON HER HEAD, THEN IT ENDED UP HAVING TO BE CUT OUT OF HER HEAD BECAUSE IT WAS STOCK. I TELL THAT BECAUSE, THAT IS A SCHOOL BOARD. WE WERE A CROWN AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU SAY OR DO, YOU CANNOT TAKE THE CROWN OFF. WHEN YOU'RE ON ANY TYPE OF SITE WITHIN THE LAKE WASHINGTON SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BUSINESS BEING TALKED ABOUT, YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT. YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER. YOU CANNOT TAKE THAT OFF. YOU CAN BE IN THE PUGET SOUND MEETING GROUP. AND THAT'S FINE. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WHATEVER, AND YOU WON'T BE SEEN AS A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER. BUT IN A SCHOOL DISTRICT BUSINESS, IT IS A THINLY QUESTION THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, NOTHING YOU SAY REMOVES THE CROWN. I WILL START THERE BECAUSE THAT IS A THING AND WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT -- IT DOESN'T MATTER, WHAT THEY SEE YOU, YOU ARE THE LAKE WASHINGTON SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND SO, IT IS NOT MY FAVORITE [02:10:05] THING BECAUSE I'M NOT A CROWN PERSON BUT THAT'S REALITY. AND THUS WHAT HAPPENS WALKING TO SCHOOL, THAT CRONUS STOCK. LEAH, THINK US A HAND AT FIRST AND THEN JOHN. >> I APPRECIATE THE ANALOGY A LOT, SANDY. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT IS WHERE THE DEFINED PROCESS COMES INTO PLAY. BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK SOCIAL MEDIA IS HERE TO STAY. AND WE AS BOARD MEMBERS, OR NOT. AS CHRIS IS LEADING BY EXAMPLE, HE WILL NOT BE HERE AFTER THE NEXT ELECTION. AND BY CHOICE! IN CASE ANYBODY MISSED THAT PREVIOUS DISCUSSION. AND I THINK THAT ALTHOUGH, WE HAVE A GENERAL CONSENSUS RIGHT NOW ON THIS BOARD ABOUT MAYBE, BEHAVIOR ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND WHAT IT MEANS, THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE CASE IN THE FUTURE. AND SO, HAVING A DEFINED PROCESS, ABOUT EXPECTATIONS OR BEHAVIOR ON SOCIAL MEDIA PERTAINING TO SCHOOL DISTRICT BUSINESS, I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE FUTURE. AND I WANTED TO ADD, OF COURSE, IF SOMEBODY COMES TO YOU PERSONALLY AND SAYS, I'M HAVING THIS ISSUE, I CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT, OF COURSE, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO HELP AND GUIDE THEM TO THE PROPER CHANNELS, TO FIGURE OUT A RESOLUTION FOR WHATEVER PROBLEM THEY'RE HAVING. BUT, WHEN IT IS DONE PUBLICLY, THE AUTOMATIC PERCEPTION IS GOING TO BE THAT THAT PROBLEM DIDN'T GET SOLVED BECAUSE BEFORE WHEN I WENT THROUGH MAYBE POTENTIAL, THE INCORRECT ROUTE TO TRY TO SOLVE THE ISSUE, UNTIL I GOT A BOARD MEMBER INVOLVED. SO, I THINK THAT BY HAVING SOME OF THESE PUBLIC DISCUSSIONS AROUND OPERATIONAL PROBLEMS, WE CREATE THIS NEVER-ENDING CYCLE OF BEING INSERTED INTO THE OPERATIONAL DECISIONS WITHIN THE DISTRICT WHICH IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AS A BOARD. AND SO, YOU KIND OF CREATE THIS PROBLEM FOR YOURSELF WHEN THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE HELD PUBLICLY. >> YES, THANK YOU. I ALWAYS SAY THAT PEOPLE WANT THE SYSTEM TO WORK. AND SO TO YOUR POINT EARLIER, WHEN THEY DON'T COME BACK, THAT MEANS A PROBLEM GET SOLVED. IN THIS ACTUALLY WIN. MEANS A SYSTEM IS WORKING. AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME, WHEN THEY WANT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO JUST GUIDE THEM, IF YOU TALK TO THE PRINCIPAL, THE DETECTOR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT? AND THEN WE WILL EVER HEAR FROM THEM AGAIN. THAT MEANS A PROBLEM GET SOLVED AND THE SYSTEM IS DOING WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, RIGHT? IF THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE THING ING GET THIS PROBLEM SOLVED BY GOING TO A BOARD MEMBER, THEN THE SYSTEM ISN'T WORKING, AND THAT'S WORSE, RIGHT? WE WANT IT TO WORK. GO AHEAD, JOHN. >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE BOARD IS TALKING ABOUT MUCH OF IT AND PUT IN METHODS OF OUTPUT. AND OUR WORLD IS SO DIFFERENT TODAY, THEN IT WAS 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS AGO. THAT PUTTING SOME DEFINITION THAT THE BOARD AGREES TO, MIGHT BE HELPFUL. BECAUSE THOSE INPUTS COME IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, AND SO MANY DIFFERENT VENUES THAT, IT IS NOT DEFINED WELL. WE STILL ADMINISTRATIVELY, OR THROUGH THOSE THINGS AS WELL BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING FROM ALL DIFFERENT SIDES, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY FAMILIES, STAFF, BUILDING ADMINISTRATORS.T JUST COMES IN SO MANY DIFFERENT FORMS WITHIN THE OUTPUT OF THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT, THINKING ABOUT THE OUTPUT AND WHAT IT [02:15:01] COMMUNICATES, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU THEN, HAVE THAT OUTPUT. AND JUST HOW DOES THAT THEN ALLOW THE BOARD TO FUNCTION AS A TEAM, AND -- THAT'S THAT PIECE. REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA. WE USE TOOLS, TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION, WHEN WASHINGTON SCHOOL DISTRICT IS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW ADDED OR #, COMMENTED ON IN MEDIA. SO, WE GET SORT OF ONGOING FEEDBACK AROUND THAT. THAT IS ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION VENUES. I KNOW THERE'S MILLIONS OF PRIVATE SETS OF INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO. AND SO, JUST A QUICK EXAMPLE OF MY TEAM MONITORING SOCIAL MEDIA AND IS TAKING ACTION. WE HAD A TWO HOUR LATE START THE OTHER DAY. WE HAD THE SMELL OF GAS AT ONE OF OUR SCHOOLS. AND DIDN'T REALLY DO A GREAT JOB OF RESPONDING TO THE GAS PIECE STUDENTS WERE SAFE, THE COMMUNICATION PIECE WAS REALLY WHERE THE BREAKDOWN OCCURRED. NONETHELESS, MY COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR CAME TO ME AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE IS SOME BUZZ ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND PEOPLE FRUSTRATED. I SAID WE DIDN'T DO A GREAT JOB OF RESPONDING TO THIS SO, WHAT WE PUT A LETTER OUT, SAY SOMETHING, OWNER ISSUE, THEN WRITE THE SHIP? SO THAT WAS MONITORING THE SOCIAL MEDIA. THAT WE HAD ACCESS TO, PROVIDING RESPONSE TO THE COMMUNITY, IN THE VENUE THAT WE PUT COMMUNICATION OUT. IT IS NOT TRYING TO TACKLE SOCIAL MEDIA, IT'S USING IT AS A TOOL IN THE WAYS THAT WE CAN. AND THEN, PUTTING INFORMATION OUT TO WHAT WE USE AS PARENTS. IT IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF KIND OF INPUT COMING IN, THEN, HOW DO WE DETERMINE THE OUTPUT? >> OKAY, MARK. >> THIS LAST WEEKEND IS A GREAT EXAMPLE WHEN WE POSTED ON HER FACEBOOK PAGE, WHAT WE WERE DOING, WHAT SCHOOLS WERE CLOSING OR HAVING A TWO HOUR DELAY, WHEN EVERYBODY WAS ASKING QUESTIONS, I REPRODUCED OR TOOK OFF THE WEBSITE, AND PUT ON THE PARENT PAGE SO THAT THEY WOULD SEE IT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ACTIVELY GOING TO THE WEBSITE AND I TELL THEM, GO TO THE WEBSITE AND YOU WILL FIND IT. HOWEVER FOR WHATEVER REASON IF YOU ARE NOT OR CANNOT OR WHATEVER, HERE'S INFORMATION. AND WHEN IT CAME TO THE GASPING I WASN'T GOING TO PUT IN THAT GRINDER. THERE WAS STILL SOME VERY ANGRY PEOPLE OUT THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THEM. I'M THINKING AT THE BOARD MEETING. IN FACT, THEY'RE ALREADY CIRCLING A FORM LETTER THE PRICE WE HAVE BEEN SEEING THEM YET AN EMAIL. AND YOU GOT ONE PARENT IN PARTICULAR, I'M SORRY, SHE IS READY BURNING DOWN THE BUILDINGS. HER DAUGHTER WAS WALKING TO SCHOOL AND WE DECIDED TO CLOSE THE BUILDING AND SHE DIDN'T KNOW THAT UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE. THAT SAID, I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A REPRODUCING INFORMATION POINT OF VIEW, SUCH AS I HAVE DONE, BASICALLY YOUR HELP AND THE PEOPLE FIND WHERE THE INFORMATION IS. THE LAST THING THEY WANT TO DO, IS THINK THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING LISTENED TO. BECAUSE THEN THEY GET ANGRIER. IN FACT, I'VE HAD PEOPLE SAY LOOK, NO ONE EVER LISTENS TO US, I AM THERE, I WILL LISTEN TO YOU. AND THEN I'LL PLAY TRAFFIC COP AND SAY YOU GO THERE OR GO THERE OR GO THERE. AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE ROLE THAT I PLAY. IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, AND JOHN THUNE TESTERS BECAUSE HE GETS MY TEXT AT WEIRD HOURS AND EMAILS. I WILL GIVE THEM AHEAD'S UP AND TELL THEM THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE TALKED TO OR SOMEBODY IS IGNORING, FOR THREE DAYS THEY'VE TRIED TO CALL SO-AND-SO AND GOT ZIP BACK AND I SAY I KNOW THEY'RE PROBABLY BUSY AS HELL, BUT THE PARENT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY ARE BEING RESPONDED TO. AND SO, GOD KNOWS I DON'T WANT JOHN TO BE THE WANT TO DO IT IF HE DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO. KICK IT DOWN WHERE IT IS SUPPOSED TO GO. THE PERSON WAS RESPONDING AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE HELD BY THE SHIRTTAILS AND SAY THIS IS PART OF YOUR JOB TOO. >> OKAY, I'M LOOKING AT THE TIME. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY GET SOME VERY SPECIFIC GOALS. I THINK WE'VE HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION, THAT I AM HEARING AGREEMENT THAT WE SHOULDN'T IGNORE SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT WE [02:20:03] NEED TO HAVE A DEFINED PROCESS OF HOW ISSUES RAISED ON SOCIAL MEDIA ARE GOING TO GET HANDLED. AND MARK, HOPE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE OKAY WITH THE GROUP COMING UP WITH A CONSENSUS. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE DOING IT CAN BECAUSE THERE'S A VACUUM. I'M HOPING THAT THE FIVE OF YOU CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON HOW THAT WILL GET HANDLED AS WE GO INTO THE FUTURE, PARTICULARLY AS THE BOARD DYNAMICS CHANGE. THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE A CLEAR DEFINED ROLE OF HOW THAT WILL GET DEALT WITH. SO, THAT IS GREAT. I HAVE GOT THREE HANDS UP, I WILL LET YOU ALL TALK AND THEN, I'M GOING TO BASICALLY, SUMMARIZE WHAT I'VE HEARD AS GOALS ARE FOR THE NEXT YEAR. AND THEN, WE WILL WRAP THINGS UP. >> I WILL SEED MY TIME. >> PERFECT. LEAH, GO AHEAD. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MARK. ACTUALLY, FROM THE COMMENT YOU JUST GAVE. MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU THINK THE, WHAT YOU ARE DOING, RELAYING THE INFORMATION THAT YOU ARE SEEING, TO WHOEVER IS THE CORRECT PERSON TO ADDRESS IT, IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A BOARD MEMBER? LIKE, IS THAT THE DEFINITION OF YOUR JOB AS A BOARD MEMBER? TO BE THAT PERSON? AND THEN TWO, EXAMPLE YOU GAVE WITH THE SCHOOL CLOSURE NOTIFICATIONS, AS A CURRENT PARENT, I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL, PARENT SQUARE MESSAGE AND EMAIL, TEXT, AND BECAUSE I'M ON THE BOARD, I GOT THE BOARD EMAILS AND MY PERSONAL EMAIL SO TIMES TWO ON ALL OF THOSE. NOTIFICATIONS ABOUT THE SCHOOLS CLOSURE. I DIDN'T NEED TO GO ON FACEBOOK AND ASKED THE QUESTION IS THERE A DELAY? BECAUSE THERE IS A SYSTEM THAT IS ENGAGED AND PUSHING OUT THE RELEVANT INFORMATION. SO, WHEN YOU GO AND DIRECTLY ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS ONLINE, WHAT HAPPENS, IN FOUR YEARS, AND YOU ARE NO LONGER ON THE BOARD, AND YOU DON'T HAVE THIS INFORMATION, BUT THESE PARENTS STILL HAVE KIDS IN THE DISTRICT, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS FOR WHERE TO FIND THE INFORMATION, THEN BECAUSE THEY BEEN RELYING ON A FACEBOOK MESSAGE FROM YOU. >> I WILL RELIGHT. WE ARE PEOPLE THAT UNFORTUNATELY, ARE NOT STUDIOUS ABOUT LOOKING AT THE EMAILS AS YOU ARE. LOOKING AT THE OTHER WAS THERE COMMUNICATING WITH BY THE VARIOUS TOOLS AND I'M SORRY, I THINK THE PARENT SQUARE. AND WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE WHO GO ON AND I'LL SHOW THEM WHERE THE PAGE IS AND THEY SAY, I NEVER LOOK THERE. NOW YOU SHOULD, AND HERE'S WHERE IT IS. AND THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD DO IT. AND WE HAD, NOW -- THE FIRST THING I WOULD SAY, GO TO LESS TALK SO WE CAN KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE THE SAME ISSUE AND SO FORTH.AND THEN, TRY AND PLAY TRAFFIC COP. IF NOT HERE FOR YEARS, THEY WILL FIND ANOTHER WAY. HOPEFULLY, SOMEONE ELSE WILL FILL THE VOID. HOPEFULLY, THE PROCESS THAT JOHN MENTIONED ABOUT MONITORING ELECTRONICALLY, I DO THE SAME THING FOR 40 IS MONITORING NEWSPAPERS. I WOULD SEE ALL THE MENTIONS ON VARIOUS TOPICS AND GOD KNOWS, THAT WAS A FULL-TIME JOB IN AND OF ITSELF, YOU HAD TO HAVE IT FINISHED BY 7:30 PM BEFORE THE CEO WALKED IN. AND SOMEONE HAS GOT TO BE OUT THERE LISTENING AND ACTING LIKE YOU GIVE A DAM OR CARE BECAUSE IF A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE DON'T THINK WE CARE AT TIMES, WE DO. AND I KNOW WE DO. ALL OF US DO. AND WILL HAVE EITHER A COMFORT ZONE OR -- IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. I HAVE THE LUXURY OF TIME AND THE LUXURY OF MY TRAINING OF WHAT I'VE BEEN SHOWN TO DO AND HOW I KNOW TO HANDLE PEOPLE IN CRISIS.ND THEY DO IT. AND I WILL CONTINUE LISTENING. AND BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE [02:25:07] AN IMPERFECT SYSTEM. YOU NEVER HAVE JUST, YOU SHOULD NEVER JUST HAVE ONE CONDUIT. YOU SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE. BECAUSE THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE PEOPLE. PEOPLE GOT ACROSS AND WANT TALK TO ME NECESSARILY PEOPLE THAT TALK TO ERIC OR LAYER OR SEERY, WILL HAVE OUR PEOPLE THAT REACH OUT TO US IN SOME MANNER. AND TO BE QUITE FRANK, ONE ARM UP FOR ELECTION THIS LAST TIME, AND PEOPLE CRAWLING OUT OF THE WOODWORK TO COME HELP ME WITH THE CAMPAIGN AND I CAMPAIGNED VIRTUALLY ALL ON FACEBOOK AND IT WORKED. I HAD PEOPLE OFFERING ME MONEY BECAUSE THEY WOULD SEE ME OUT THERE LISTENING TO THEM. >> I'M GOING TO STOP YOU, I KNOW LEAH ASKED A QUESTION AND THAT'S GREAT BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE NINE MINUTES AND I REALLY WANT TO GET TO THE GOALS. AND CHRIS WANTS TO SPEAK AND I WANT TO REITERATE, NO ONE IS ATTACKING THAT THIS DOESN'T NEED TO HAPPEN AND THERE IS NOT WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND JUST NEEDS TO BE I THINK WAS HAPPENED IS THAT YOU BECOME THE DEFAULT PERSON. AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A CLEAR DEFINITION OF THAT ROLE. AND HOW THAT WILL WORK. AND I HAVE HEARD AGREEMENT FROM ALL FIVE OF YOU, THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S WHY ACTUALLY ASKED THE QUESTION, WHO IS OUR COMMUNITY? AND GET THAT THINKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY IS LARGER THAN WHO IS ON FACEBOOK AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE EXCLUDED FROM THOSE GROUPS. EITHER FROM LANGUAGE BARRIERS, IF THEY DON'T HAVE INTERNET ACCESS OR AGE OR WHATEVER. AND SO, THINKING ABOUT, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE HURL ALL VOICES? I'M HOPING IS A GOOD CONVERSATION YOU GUYS WILL BE HAVING IN CONJUNCTION WITH ALL OF THIS. AND I'M STOPPING EDITORIALIZING. WANT TO GET THIS DONE. CHRIS, GO AHEAD. >> ACTUALLY, I REALLY JUST WANTED TO TRY AND SYNTHESIZE THIS AS FAR AS A CONTINUING CONVERSATION RATHER THAN TO SETTLE IT RIGHT NOW, AND THAT IS THAT THERE IS A FUNDAMENTAL BALANCE OF VALUES, THERE IS A VALUE TO DIFFUSING ANGRY CONSTITUENTS BEFORE THEY BECOME ANGRIER. ADMITTEDLY, ANGER IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT SEEMS TO PROPAGATE EXPONENTIALLY ON SOCIAL MEDIA. BUT, FOR ME, THE FUNDAMENTAL CHALLENGE IS HOW TO BALANCE THE VALUE WITH THE SYSTEM, WHAT CAN WE SET UP TO HELP CONNECT ANGRY CONSTITUENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA WITHOUT SETTING THE PRECEDENT OR EXPECTATION THAT GETTING THE SCHOOL BOARD ATTENTION IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET ANYTHING DONE. BECAUSE THAT IS A RECIPE LONG TERM FOR DISASTER. AND SO, THERE IS ATTENTION HERE IN TRYING TO FIND SOMEBODY TO THREAD THE NEEDLE IT'S IMPORTANT. AND SO, I WANT TO END WITH THAT AS A NEXT TIME WE TALK ABOUT THIS, IT WOULD MAKE A PLACE WITH A START, RATHER THAN AS LET'S CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION. WE WON'T SOLVE IT RIGHT NOW. >> THANK YOU. I TRIED TO CAPTURE BECAUSE I'VE GOT THIS BROAD GOAL ON SOCIAL MEDIA SO, THAT IS A GREAT WAY OF FRAMING THAT. OKAY, IN THE NEXT SEVEN MINUTES, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS KIND OF, I'VE GOT ABOUT SIX IDEAS FOR GOALS. I'M GOING TO SHARE THOSE AND YOU CAN DO A THUMBS-UP OR THUMBS DOWN, OR IF YOU REALLY HAVE A STRONG OPINION, PUT YOUR HAND UP AND WE WILL SHARE. THIS DIDN'T COME OUT FROM THE CONVERSATION, BUT AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT DEFINITELY CHRIS AND I THINK ONE OF THE TWO BOARD MEMBERS ARE NOT RETURNING SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF NEW AND LEAH, YOU RENEW LAST YEAR, JUST PROBABLY THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO REVIEW YOUR ONBOARDING PROCESS. AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NEED. ONE YEAR FROM NOW. THAT FOR ME, I WOULD THINK WOULD BE A GOOD GOAL TO GO THROUGH THAT AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REFLECT, HERE'S WHAT WORKED AND HERE IS WHAT NEEDS IMPROVEMENT. WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION ABOUT, HOW DO WE TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT AND TRUST, IN AN ERA WHERE WE ARE ALWAYS ON CAMERA. SO, HOW DO WE CREATE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS? AGAIN, YOU HAVE NEW PEOPLE COMING ON IT WILL HAVE TWO BECOME THE LAKE WASHINGTON SCHOOL BOARD TEAM IN AN ERA WHERE EVERYTHING THEY SAY IS BEING LIVE STREAMS. SO, HOW DO WE WANT TO PURPOSEFULLY, SET THAT UP FOR [02:30:01] SUCCESS? THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT LEARNING TO CREATE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE, AND PERFORMING FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS. BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS OF BEHAVING AND I HEARD AGREEMENT THAT DISAGREEING RESPECTFULLY, IS IMPORTANT AND IS PART OF YOUR ROLE. PERFORMING FOR CONSTITUENTS, BASED ON LIKE WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN PUBLIC COMMENT, IS NOT REALLY HOW THE WORK GETS DONE AND THAT IS NOT HOW WE ACHIEVE STUDENT SUCCESS. I ALSO HEARD DEFINING THE ROLE OF HOW WE CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THAT IS NOT, SOCIAL MEDIA IS A SEPARATE CONVERSATION BUT DEFINING THE ROLE AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO THE SUSTAINABILITY PIECE, THIS WORK IS EXPANDING EXPONENTIALLY OVER THE LAST DECADE. AND CREATING CLEAR DEFINITION OF HOW WE ARE CONNECTED WITH OUR COMMUNITY, THEN HELPS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THEY ARE STEPPING INTO. I JUST HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A BOARD MEMBER IN ANOTHER DISTRICT AND WERE BOTH PROMISED TWO MEETINGS A MONTH. AND MY HUSBAND TEASES ME AS I'M HEADING OUT THE DOOR, IS THIS YOUR SECOND MEETING THIS MONTH? I'VE LOST COUNT. BECAUSE IT IS A LOT MORE THAN THAT.O I THINK, AND IS REALLY WHERE EXPLOSION IS, AROUND CONNECTING WITH COMMUNITY. AND SO, GETTING SOME PARAMETERS OF WHAT THAT MEANS AND WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE OF BOARD MEMBERS. WE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT A FRAMEWORK FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. THAT WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE THAT THE SIX SQUARE GRID, WHETHER THAT COMES BACK, WHEN WE ARE THINKING ABOUT, HOW DO WE CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY WHEN A BIG DECISION IS FRONT OF US. WHAT IS THAT? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR US? AND I THINK WE AGREE THAT IT WASN'T ALWAYS A SURVEY WE WILL SEND OUT, ABOUT WHETHER WE APPROVE AN EASEMENT OR NOT, BUT WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE CONTINUUM? WHEN DO WE GO OUT TO COMMUNITY, WHEN DO WE USE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN? WHEN DO WE SO FORTH. ANYWAY, THEN SOCIAL MEDIA. HOW DO WE BALANCE THE NEED TO ADDRESS ANGRY CONSTITUENTS OR ISSUES THAT ARE BEING RAISED OR BEING PREPARED TO RESPOND TO, SOCIAL MEDIA IS HUGE! THERE'S A LOT GOING ON THERE. HOW DO WE DO THAT AND AT THE SAME TIME, BALANCE THAT WE ARE A BOARD, WE ARE A TEAM OF FIVE, AND THE NEED IS TO BE REFLECTIVE OF THE BOARD.ND IT IS NOT YOUR SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF ONE INDIVIDUAL. DOES THAT TRACK? DID I MISS ANYTHING? WAS THERE ANYTHING IN THERE THAT YOU SAID WE ARE NOT DOING THAT ARE TAKING THAT ON? YES, ERIC? >> I THINK THE CONVERSATION AROUND TO ME AT LEAST, CONVERSATION AROUND SOCIAL MEDIA, IS A BROADER ISSUE, HOW DO WE AGREE IS A BOARD, TO BOTH PROCEED IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN, OUTWARDLY COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMUNITY? AND I WAS LOOKING AT RGC AND I DON'T, WE HAVE GC 7E WHICH IS COMMUNITY COMPLAINTS AND I THINK OF THAT AS PERHAPS, A WAY TO HAVE THE BOARD HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING TO REVISE THAT AND BROADEN IT. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT, I DON'T THINK IT ADEQUATELY EXPRESSES AGREEMENT ON THE BOARD FOR HOW TO DEAL WITH THESE THINGS. SO, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE. >> OKAY, SIRI? I WAS JUST GOING TO BUILD ON THAT PIECE, HE TALKED ABOUT THE OPERATIONAL OR THE GOVERNING COMMITMENTS OF THOSE. I BELIEVE OUR OPERATIONAL EXPECTATION AROUND COMMUNITY OR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PERHAPS COULD FALL WITHIN THERE TOO, IN REGARDS TO THAT PIECE. BUT I DID THINK YOU CAPTURED IT WELL. I THINK STRUCTURING A BOARD PLAN HONESTLY COME AROUND THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? WHY IS IT BEING DONE? SOCIAL MEDIA IS A COMPONENT TO THAT BUT THEN THERE'S THE OTHER PIECES TO IT THAT YOU SPOKE [02:35:01] ABOUT. HOW ARE WE GETTING WHERE WE NEED TO? AND I WILL SAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE WEAK LINK WHEN I LOOK AT OUR WORK PLAN, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING SET ON THE EIGHTH, WHICH LEAH AND I AND JOHN ARE WORKING TO TALK ABOUT LINKAGES AND FOCUS GROUPS AND THOSE PIECES. BECAUSE MARK, YOU TALKED ABOUT LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY, YET THAT LISTENING AND ABSOLUTELY. PART OF THAT IS WE CAN PROACTIVELY GO OUT AND LISTEN TO GROUPS ABOUT THINGS ARE GOING ON AND BE ABLE TO PULL THAT AND AND I'M NOT SURE WE STRUCTURE THE BOARDS ROLE IN THAT VERY WELL. AND SO, WE ARE EACH DOING IN OUR OWN WAY AND NOW, HOW DO WE GET A MORE CONSISTENT STRUCTURAL FORMAT FOR THAT TO GO? I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HOLD AND THINK ABOUT AS WE GO FORWARD. >> I THINK THAT WAS DEFINING HOW WE CONNECT WITH COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT CAPTURES THAT EXACTLY. I AM HAPPY TO LEAVE SOCIAL MEDIA AS JUST SOCIAL MEDIA QUESTION MARK AS A GOAL BECAUSE I THINK PART OF THEIR WORK IS, YOU HAVING A CONVERSATION OF, HOW ARE WE DEALING WITH IT? IS A REALITY AND IS NOT GOING AWAY, IMPACTS OUR WORK. HOW ARE WE GOING TO DEAL WITH IT? WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE? ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS LEFT OUT? YOU FELT LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS WORKED ON OVER THE NEXT YEAR? NOTHING -- >> I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF SOMETHING. TO ME YOU CAPTURED EVERYTHING WE DISCUSSED. >> OKAY. CHRIS? >> YEAH, IN TERMS OF THINGS, IS NOT COMING OUT OF THE -- THE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE HAVE TO DO AS A GROUP OVER THE NEXT YEAR IS FOLLOW-UP ON OE 14 KEEPING EVERYONE ENGAGED ON THAT. OPERATIONALLY TRYING TO FIND SOME WAY THAT WE ARE HONEST WITH OURSELVES ABOUT WHERE WE ARE ON THAT. IT IS SOMETHING WHERE WE PUT SOMETHING ON THE GROUND TO GET IT DONE. ANYWAY, SORRY. I DO THINK THIS IS A BOARD IMPROVEMENT THING. HOW DO WE ENGAGE WITH OE 14? >> MY FACE IS NOT QUESTIONING. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT OE 14 IS PURE. >> IT IS OUR EQUITY POLICY. AND THE COMMUNITY IS VERY HOT TO TROT ON THIS EQUITY POLICY BUT OPERATIONALLY, HOW DO WE REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE AS A GROUP, CONTINUE TO GROW, I HATE TO SAY TRAINING, OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH IT, OUR FOLLOW-UP. >> SO, IF I SAY, HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO STAY ENGAGED WITH THE EQUITY POLICY? >> YES THAT'S GOOD. >> OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? I LIKE TO SAY THAT. ALL RIGHT, I'LL JUST WRAP UP AND SAY THANK YOU. I CAN SEE WHY LAKE WASHINGTON HAS HELD UP AS A VERY HIGHLY FUNCTIONING DISTRICT. I CAN SEE WHY OUR PARENTS KEEP COMING TO US AND SAYING, WHY DON'T YOU DO IT LIKE WASHINGTON IS DOING IT? YOU ARE GOOD NEIGHBORS, YOU INSPIRE US TO WORK HARDER. SO THANK YOU FOR THIS MORNING AND YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR MODELING, GOOD RESPECTFUL CONVERSATIONS AND BEING WILLING TO PUT UP WITH SOME OF MY GOOFIER EXERCISES. BUT I THINK WE HAVE GAINED A LOT FROM THIS MORNING AND, I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHERE YOU ALL GO WITH IT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU FOR COMING. AND FACILITATING, GREATLY APPRECIATE IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED WORK WE HAVE [02:40:01] HERE GOING FORWARD. WOULD ASSUME SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS, JUST FOR TODAY IS A WRAP UP OF THIS SECTION, WE HAVE THE OTHER HALF COMING UP AFTER LUNCH AND WE HAVE A BREAK THEN. BUT WITH THIS AS I SAID, FROM WE WILL LOOK AT THIS HOW THIS BUILDS THE WORK PLAN AND DIFFERENT COMPONENTS AND BE ABLE TO LOOK THROUGH HOW WE BREAK SOME OF THIS OUT OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS MOST LIKELY, AS WE LOOK FORWARD FROM THIS. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT, AND WILLINGNESS TO DIVE IN BECAUSE WE ARE ALL GREAT AT BEING ABLE TO PUT SYSTEMS INTO PLACE. AND SO, I ASSUME YOU WILL READ AS A SUMMARY, SIMILAR TO WHAT TRICIA SENT US? >> I WILL. BASICALLY, WHAT I WILL DO IS WRITE UP THOSE NOW, SEVEN GOALS. AND I WILL GET THEM TO SIRI AND JOHN MONDAY OR TUESDAY AT THE LATEST. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> IT WILL NOT BE THE END OF FEBRUARY. AT THAT POINT I WILL HAVE LOST MY NOTES. >> AND SO THEN, THE EXTENDED STUDY SESSION IN MARCH WHEN WE COME BACK TOGETHER, THAT WOULD BE A TIMELY TOUCH BASE BACK ON THIS AS TO WHERE WE ARE AT AND WHERE PLANS ARE. JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW HOW THAT PLAYS OUT. DOES THAT WORK? OKAY, I SEE NODS, THAT'S GOOD. JOHN, I'M ASSUMING WE CAN DO HALF HOUR LUNCH BREAK FOR PEOPLE? AND THEN, WILL COME BACK ONTO THE AFTERNOON. WE WILL SPEND WITH RYAN, BARBARA AND YOU? LIKELY IT WILL NOT GOING TO 4:30 PM. IF I AM CORRECT A LOT OF THIS WILL DEPEND ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED. -- TRYING TO KEEP THEM ALL STRAIGHT THIS TIME. SO, GO ENJOY LUNCH, THANK YOU ALL FOR PARTICIPATING IN OUR VIRTUAL WORLD. IT IS BEAUTIFUL AND SUNNY OUT, IT'S A GORGEOUS DAY OUTSIDE. WE WILL SEE YOU BACK HERE LET'S SAY AT 12:15 PM, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 30 MINUTES. DOES THAT WORK? >> SOUNDS GOOD. >> GLAD YOU HAVE POWER. MARK ARE YOU AN GENERATOR? >> CURRENTLY AN GENERATOR. I'M GOING TO GO OUT AND FIND OUT IF I HAVE POWER FOR MY LUNCH. . >>> WE ARE RETURNING FROM LUNCH AND WE ARE READY TO RESTART OUR BROADCAST. [2. 2022 Levy Projects] >>> WE'RE GOOD TO GO. >> I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY BACK TO CONTINUE ON WITH OUR EXTENDED STUDY SESSION ON MARCH 3 OF 2022. THE TOPIC FOR THIS AFTERNOON WILL BE ON CAPITOL FACILITIES THAT WERE ON THE 2022 CAPITOL LEVY. CAPITOL CONSTRUCTION LEVY AND WITH THAT I WILL PASS IT TO DR. HOLMEN. >>> SO THANK YOU AND APPRECIATE ASSOCIATE SUPERINTENDENT BARBARA POSTHUMUS AND BRIAN BUCK FOR BEING HERE. TO DATE THE THREE OF US ARE GOING TO CO-CO-TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU SO WE HAVE SOME PIECES OF THE PRESENTATION, SO I'LL STARTS US OFF. BARBARA IS GOING TO RUN THE PRESENTATION FROM HER COMPUTER AS WE WORK THROUGH TODAY. AND SO TODAY'S SESSION REALLY IS AN UPDATE, REVIEW AND SOME DISCUSSION AROUND THE 2022 CONSTRUCTION LEVY PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED BY OUR COMMUNITY THIS FEBRUARY AND AS CAN YOU KNOW THE MOMENT THEY SAY YES OUR TEAM IS ACTIVELY WORKING ON THOSE PROJECTS, AND THAT IS TRUE IN THIS CASE, AND YOU'VE RECEIVED SOME LEVEL OF UPDATE. WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD IS UPDATED AROUND WHAT THE INDUSTRY CALLS THE PROJECT DELIVERY METHODS, SO YOU'VE HEARD TEAMS LIKE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILD, GCM, THOSE ARE TERMS THAT ARE USED WITHIN THE INDUSTRY AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE FOR US AS NONCONSTRUCTION FOLKS TO JUST UNDERSTAND GENERALLY HOW DOES THAT BENEFIT THE DISTRICT AND HOW DO WE MAKE AND WHY DO WE MAKE DECISIONS AROUND THOSE DIFFERENT DELIVERY METHODS TO PUBLISH OUR GOALS BECAUSE THOSE ARE INTENTIONAL DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THOSE. WE WANT TO ALSO PROVIDE A FINANCIAL UPDATE IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE WITH REVENUE COMING IN, EXPENDITURES AND WHAT NOT [02:45:05] MOVING FORWARD. THERE'S ONE ADDITIONAL AGENDA ITEM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF. WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF OUR 2022 LEVY PROJECTS SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO THE RID REDMOND ELEMENTARY SITE SO LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL. SO OUTCOMES OF TODAY THAT YOU UNDERSTAND CURRENT AND FUTURE EFFORTS AROUND THE CONSTRUCTION LEVY PROJECTS, THE DELIVERY METHODS AND PROVIDING CONSIDERSES RELATED TO PLANNING FOR CAPACITY IN THE REDMOND LEARNING AREA. SO WHEN WE WENT OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION LEVY WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT WITH JUST A NUMBER OF WHAT WE CONSIDERED VALUES AS WE ASKED OUR COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE US FUNDING, AND THESE REALLY WERE THIS RELATION TO THE OVERALL THREE LEVIES THAT WERE BEING PUT FORWARD BUT I THINK THEY'RE APPLICABLE TO EACH ONE OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL. SO ANYTIME WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF SCHOOLS WE'RE THINKING HOW DOES THAT HELP US ACCOMPLISH OUR MISSION AND VISION FOR KIDS BY PROVIDING A HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION FOR STUDENTS KNOWING THAT OUR SCHOOLS ARE TRULY PART OF WHAT CREATES EXCELLENT COMMUNITIES THAT. FOURTH BULLET AGAIN TODAY THAT IS GOING TO BE PRIMARY IN OUR CONVERSATION. OUR COMMUNITY GIVES US A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FINANCIAL RESOURCE AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS USED IN THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY AS WE CAN, BECAUSE THOSE ARE RESOURCES THAT ARE FINITE. THEY'RE NOT ENDLESS AND SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE USING THOSE RESOURCES WELL IS IMPORTANT. AS WE THINK ABOUT SPACE, SPACE IS PART AND PARCEL WITH QUALITY EDUCATION FOR STUDENTS. WE KNOW THAT THROUGH ALL OF THIS WORK, IS THAT PARTNERSHIPS HELP US TO ELEVATE THE WORK THAT WE DO AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WE NEED TO BE FRONT, HONEST AND PROVIDE OUR COMMUNITY WITH A LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE THAT TRULY DOES BUILD TRUST IN THE SYSTEM AND HELPS US ESTABLISH THAT RELATIONSHIP LONG-TERM. AND SO SOME OREGON OVER ARCHING CONSIDERATIONS IN THAT OUR SCHOOL DOES STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR STUDENTS. NEXT BULLET BARBARA. THAT AS YOU RECALL ONE OF OUR LEVIES WAS FOCUSED ON MAINTENANCE, IMPROVEMENT FOR CAPITAL FACILITY CAN TECHNOLOGY, THAT WAS THE LEVY THAT RECEIVED THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SUPPORT FROM OUR COMMUNITY WAS OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS LEVY THIS LAST TIME AROUND, AND THE FINAL BULLET POINT ON THIS SLIDE IS IN RELATION TO THE CONSTRUCTION, BARBARA DO YOU WANT TO CLICK JUST ONE MORE TIME? WE SNOW THAT OUR DISTRICT HAS BEEN RAPIDLY GROWING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND WITH KIND OF A RESET OF THE PANDEMIC IN TERMS OF ENROLLMENT WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIVE AND CONSIDERATE OF THAT AS WE'RE BUILDING THIS PLAN MOVING FORWARD. AND SO I WANTED TO BRING THESE SLIDES BACK TO YOU JUST TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT AS WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THE LONG-TERM FUNDING AND CONSTRUCTION PLAN WE CALLED IT THE BUILDING EXCELLENCE PLAN SO STEP ONE WAS THAT 25 MILLION-DOLLAR LEVY THE COMMUNITY APPROVED IN FEBRUARY 2022 AND AT THE TIME THE LONG-TERM THINKING GIVEN PROJECTION ANDS WHAT NOT WAS A BOND MEASURE TO BE RUN IN 2024, YOU CAN SEE A SUBSTANTIAL BOND MEASURE, GIVEN -- OR TO ACCOMPLISH A NUMBER OF GOALS. ONE TO ENSURE CAPACITY FOR STUDENTS, TWO, TO REPLACE AGING FACILITIES, AND THREE TO REDUCE OUR RELIANCE ON PORTABLES. LIKE THOSE WERE ALL GOALS CAN TARGETS OF THIS OVERALL BUILDING EXCELLENCE PLAN. AND THEN THE THIRD STEP IN THIS PROGRAM WAS A SUBSEQUENT CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION LEVY THAT WAS RUN IN 228 WHICH PROVIDED ANOTHER LONG-TERM FUNDING STREAM TO CONTINUE OUR WORK OF THE CONSTRUCTING SCHOOLS. THE NEXT SLIDE WAS OUR BEST THING AT THE TIME AROUND WHAT ARE IF DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT FUNDING IN THIS OVERALL PLAN. MANY OF THESE THINGS ARE STILL THE TARGETS OF OUR EFFORTS. [02:50:04] WE KNOW WE HAVE SPACE -- WE HAVE LAND IN REDMOND THAT WAS RECENTLY PURCHASE CANDIDATE WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW AND SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A FIFTH COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL, WE KNOW THAT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS ONE OF OUR AGING FACILITIES SO THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE IN TERMS OF THE CONSTRUCTION NIGHT NEEDS OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. BARBARA, I WILL HAND THIS PASSION PORTION OFF TO YOU. >>> GREAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW KIND OF THE PROJECTS RELATED TO THE 2022 CONSTRUCTION LEVY CAN THE FIRST SLIDE IS A SLIDE YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE. THESE WERE THE PROJECTS THAT WE IDENTIFIED AS CRITICAL CAPACITY NEEDS, SO WE HAVE OUR ADDITIONS AT FIN HILL, KIRKLAND AND REDMOND MIDDLE SCHOOL, AGAIN I WON'T READ EVERYTHING HERE. CAPACITY IN THE REDMOND AREA AND ADDITIONAL HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY AND FUND FOR PROGRAM CONTINGENCY CONSTRUCTION ISLATION I IS ESCALATION AND PROPERTY SO THAT WAS PASSED IN 2022 AND THAT WOULD OVER 2,000 -- CAPACITY FOR OVER 2300 STUDENTS. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE BRIAN GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN GOING ON TO DATE AND TALK ABOUT HOW OUR DELIVERY METHODS FOR OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. >>> THANK YOU. SO THINGS A CARE SON OF PROJECT DELIVERY MODELS, THE TRADITIONAL DESIGN BID BUILD MODEL AND THEN THE ALTERNATIVE DELIVERY MODEL OF GZZN AND PROGRESS ISSUE DESIGN BUILD. SO AT THE TOP THIS THE TRADITIONAL METHOD YOU BEGIN CONCEPTUAL PLANNING AND SELECT AN ARCHITECT TO BEGIN DESIGN, AND IT GOES THROUGH THE STAGES OF DESIGN, SCHEME ATTIC DESIGN COMMENCEMENT AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. AT THAT POINT IN TIME THE BUILDING OR THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS DESIGNED AND YOU BEGIN YOUR PERMITTING PROCESS AND YOU GO OUT FOR A CONTRACTOR AND BID THE LOW -- IT'S A LOW BID PROCESS FOR CONTRACTOR. AT WHICH TIME YOU GIVE YOURSELF A CHANCE TO REBID IF NEEDED AND CONTRACTOR MOBILIZES CAN THE CONSTRUCTION BEGINS. THE ALTERNATIVE DELIVERY MODEL OF GCCM, JUST TO NOTE, THE LAKE WASHINGTON SCHOOL DISTRICT IS AGENCY STATUS APPROVED TO SELF SELECT PROJECTS AS GCCM. WE GO TO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS REVIEW BOARD, ADVISORY BOARD EVERY THREE YEARS AND PRESENT, AND IF APPROVED WE BECOMES AGENCY STATUS CERTIFIED. OTHER DISTRICTS THAT ARE NOT AGENCY STATUS CERTIFIED GO THROUGH A PROJECT REVIEW COMMITTEE TO GET APPROVED FOR THAT. SO CONCEPTUALLY WE BEGIN CONCEPTUAL PLANNING, WE SELECT AN ARCHITECT AND A SCHEMATIC DESIGN BEGINS WE SELECT A GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND WE BRING THAT CONTRACTOR IN EARLY. SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN TIMING SO WE CAN HAVE INFLUENCE ON THE DESIGN OF A BUILDABLE AND EFFECTIVE BUILDING OR EFFICIENT BUILDING, AND DURING THAT DESIGN PROCESS COST ESTIMATING HAPPENS THROUGH THE CONTRACTOR, SO YOU CAN MAKE DECISIONS ON DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS HAPPEN AND WE BEGIN BIDDING THOSE PACKAGES, AND IN THE PACKAGES ALLOWS US TO BID TO THE SUB CONTRACTOR MARKET ON A LOW BID PROCESS, AND STEPS. SO YOU'RE ABLE TO GET THIS MAC MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE CONSTRUCTION COST SO YOU'RE ABLE TO BRING THAT CONSTRUCTION PROCESS FORWARD WHILE YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE BIDDING PROCESS TO SUB CONTRACTORS AND GETTING YOUR PERMITS. SO YOU SAVE TIME, YOU ALSO ARE ABLE TO ANNOUNCE THE DESIGN WITH THE CONTRACTOR EARLY. THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILD PROCESS CURRENTLY REQUIRES ALL DISTRICTS OR PUBLIC ENTITIES TO GO THROUGH THE PROJECT REVIEW COMMITTEE TO BE APPROVED FOR THIS MODEL. AND THIS MODEL YOU SELECTED A [02:55:03] DESIGN BUILDER FIRST, AND THE DESIGN BUILDER HIRES THE ARCHITECT. SOMETIMES WHEN YOU SELECT THE DESIGN BUILDER THEY COME TO THE TABLE AND PRESENT WITH AN ARCHITECT. THERE ARE OREGON MODELS WHERE YOU SELECT THE DESIGN BUILDER FIRST AND THEN COLLECTIVELY WITH THE OWNER SELECT AN ARCHITECT. BUT DURING CONCEPTUAL PLANNING THERE'S A VALIDATION AND DEFINITION STAGE, AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME YOU CAN SET YOUR VALUE AND YOU CAN DESIGN TO A FIXED CENTRAL AND THE CONTRACTOR BUILDS AND DESIGNS A BUILDING TO A FIXED AMOUNT. PRELIMINARY DESIGN OF FINAL DESIGNS HAPPEN DURING A COSTING PROCESS BUT ANYTIME DURING THAT DESIGN YOU CAN SET YOUR VALUE. YOU CAN EITHER -- LIKE DOWN HERE IN ORANGE IT SAYS YOU CAN HAVE A FIXED BUDGET IN A VARIABLE QUANTITY QUALITY. SO YOU YOU CAN SENT IT AND BUILD TO A BUDGET OR YOU CAN HAVE A VARIABLE BUDGET BASED ON DECEASE FOR QUALITY AND QUANTITY, AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS I MAY BE REALLY WANTING A BRICK EXTERIOR AND SO IF I -- IF THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AS AN OWNER THAT WOULD INCREASE THE COST AND SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT -- THAT'S THAT PENDULUM HERE TO SET THE PRICE. YOU CAN SEE PERMITTING ALSO PULLS FORWARD AGAIN, SO YOU BE DESIGN TO PERMITTING, DESIGN TO PERMIT IN DIFFERENT STAGES. WE PULL OUR CONSTRUCTION FORWARD AGAIN AND AGAIN THIS CREATES TIME CAN VALUE IN THE PROJECT. IN BOTH ALTERNATIVED MO MODELS THE CONTRACTOR IS HIGHLY INVOLVED IN THE DESIGN PROCESS SO THAT YOU CAN ELIMINATE ANY WASTE IN THE DESIGN SO YOU DON'T GET DESIGNS THAT ARE NOT BUILDABLE OR EFFICIENT TO BUILD. SO THAT'S KIND OF -- I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO TAKE IN BUT GRAPHICALLY PLEASING SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS NOW ON THIS PIECE OR WE CAN HOLD UNTIL THE END. EITHER WAY. >>> CHRIS? >> YES, SO SORRY I WANT TO TRY TO RECOPIT LATE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE -- RATHER THAN HAVING MULTIPLE BUILDERS BIDDING TO A DESIGN, THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE RELYING ON THE SELECTION OF THE DESIGN BUILDER TO BE A COST CONSCIOUS, COST EFFECTIVE -- I'M JUST TRYING TO TO -- I GET THE TIME SAVED AND TIME DISEASE DOES EQUAL MONEY I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW DO WE ACHIEVE MAXIMUM VALLEY WITHOUT HAVING A COMPETITION ON PRICE. >> BOTH MODELS YOU SELECT NOT ONLY QUALIFICATIONS AND VALUES OF YOUR CONTRACTOR BE THERE IS A PRICING COMPONENT THAT IS INCLUDED IN THAT SELECTION PROCESS. IN THE GCCM PROCESS ALL THE BID PACKAGES THAT THE GC PUTS OUT TO THE MARKET TO THE SUBCONTRACTORS AND THEY DO SELF PERFORM WORK THAT THEY ALSO BID ON IS A LOW BID PROCESS AND PROGRESSIVE DESIGN YOU CAN TELL THE CONTRACTOR I WANT IT FOR THIS MUCH AND THEN DETERMINE ALONG THIS LINE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE MARKET AND GET THE BEST PRICE FOR THAT MARKET, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY LOCKED IN SPITE ON AT SOME POINT ON THIS LINE. I WOULD SAY ANOTHER BENEFIT FOR PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILD IS YOU'RE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO SMALL DISADVANTAGED BUSINESSES MORE EASILY IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPANIES THAT ARE ABLE THE BID IN THE SUBCONTRACTOR MARKET BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY'RE PACKAGED OR THAT THEY'RE LOW BID, SO THIS PROCESS ALLOWS YOUR ABILITY TO REACH A DIFFERENT MARKET OF SMALL DISADVANTAGED BUSINESSES THAT ARE SOMEWHAT NICHE PACKAGES FOR THEM. >> SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN TERMS OF GETTING THE BIGGESTING BANG FOR THE BUCK THAT'S IN THE DESIGN BUILD, SOMEONE WHO'S DOING A GOOD JOB WITHIN THE SCOPE. IS THAT ACCURATE? >> CORRECT. >> OKAY T. >> I MEAN THE OTHER PIECE IS YOU'RE TAKING -- YOU TAKE -- THE CONTRACTORS TAKE A LOT OF [03:00:06] RIGSING ON IN THESE ALTERNATIVE MARKETS AND THE DESIGN BUILD THERE'S A LOT OF RISK IN THIS PROCESS THAT THE OWNER ALSO HAS SO IF DESIGNS COME IN -- DESIGNS ARE NOT -- I DON'T KNOW, 100 PERCENT ACCURATE WHICH HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, THIS IS WHERE CHAIN ORDERS COME INTO PLAY BECAUSE THEY BID A SET OF DOCUMENTS AND IF THOSE DOCUMENTS NEED CHANGES THOSE ARE CHANGE ORDERS FOR THE CONTRACTOR. >> BRIAN, THE OTHER DAY WHEN WE WERE TALKING YOU MENTIONED THE CHANGE ORDER PIECE AND AS I CONCEPTUALIZED IT IT REALLY WAS -- YOU'RE AVOIDING CHANGE ORBEDS WITH THE ALTERNATIVE METHODS BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE MORE OF THE PLAYERS AT THE TABLE FULLY THINKING THROUGH DESIGN ALL THE WAY THROUGH COMPLETION, AS OPPOSED TO EVERYBODY DOING THEIR OWN WORK SEPARATELY WITH AN ESTIMATED ACCURACY OF X, 85, 95 PERCENT AND THEN THAT IF YOU WILL FIVE PERCENT IT'S ALL CHANGE ORDERS AND EVERY CHANGE ORDER COMES WITH COST. SO IT'S ALSO A WAY TO CONTROL COST BY HAVING MORE PLAYERS AT THE TABLE, AND THESE ARE METHODS WERE CURRENTLY USING AND EXECUTING SO THESE AREN'T NEW METHODS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THESE ARE TERMS THAT WE CONTINUE TO HEAR. THAT'S WHY I THAT YOU WOULD TAILGATE BE OF VALUE FOR THE BOARD TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THEM. LEAH? >> SO IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY WHICH I VERY MUCH MIGHT NOT BE, IN THE TRADITIONAL METHOD, LOOKS LIKE CONTRACTOR AWARD HAPPENS AFTER THE INITIAL BID AND REBID AND IT'S NORMALLY -- I FORGOT THE TERM YOU USE, THE LOW BID CONTRACTOR AWARD, BUT IN GCM I'M SEEING THE SELECTION OF THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR WITHOUT A BID -- I GUESS CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT PROCESS THEN AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE OVER ALL COST? >> WE SOLICIT FOR QUALIFICATIONS AND WE REVIEW QUALIFICATIONS, THEN WE DOWN SELECT AT THAT POINT AND BRING CONTRACTORS IN FOR INTERVIEWS AND WE INTERVIEW THE CHARACTERS, SUBCONTRACTORS AND AT THAT POINT CONTRACTORS ARE SELECTED FOR REQUESTS FOR PROPOSAL AND AT THAT POINT THE TOTAL AM OF POINTS RELATED TO THE INTERVIEW AND QUALIFICATIONS INTERVIEWS AND PROPOSAL ARE SUMMARIZED AND THE HIGHEST AWARD POINTS GOES TO THAT CONTRACTOR IF SELECTED. OUR DISTRICT WE REVIEW QUALIFICATION AND THAT SEEDS YOU INTO THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE SCORED BUT THEY DO NOT COUNT TOWARDS THE SELECTION PROCESS IF YOU WILL. OTHER DISTRICTS COUNT ALL THREE. AND COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THE COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE DIFFERENT MODELS? ARE THEY -- LIKE, IS THERE A NUMBER IS THAT YOU CAN THROW OUT TO GIVE AN IDEA? IS? >> YEAH THERE'S NO DEFINITIVE WAY TO SAY THAT ONE MODEL IS MORE EXPENSIVE OR CHEAPER THAN ANOTHER. I WOULD SAY THAT THE ALTERNATIVE DELIVERY METHODS MIMIC NONPUBLIC CONSTRUCTION THE MOST IN THAT IT'S SIMILAR TO NEGOTIATED WORK, LIKE MICROSOFT DOES. BUT YOU CAN'T REALLY DO AN APPLE TO APPLE COMPARISON ON COST, OTHER THAN IT ALLOWS YOU OPPORTUNITY TO DO THINGS FASTER AND GET EVERYONE AT THE TABLE EARLIER AND DR. HOLMEN'S CORRECT, THESE ALTERNATIVE MODELS ARE AIMED TO INCREASE THE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE ENTIRE PROCESS. >>> AND BRIAN, WE USE GCM ON ONE CORRECT. >> CAR WRECK. >> DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW THAT HELPED US WITH THAT PROJECT? >> ABSOLUTELY. SO IN JUANITA HIGH SCHOOL WAS A NEW IN LIEU OF A MODERNIZATION PROJECT, AND WE BROUGHT OUR CONTRACTOR, CORNERSTONE GENERAL CONTRACTORS IN EARLY AND DURING THE SCHEME ATTIC DESIGN CROSS WE DETERMINED WITH THE HELP OF THE [03:05:04] CONTRACTOR THAT BUILDING JUANITA ON THE SAME FOOTPRINT THAT THE OLD SCHOOL EXISTED AND BUILDING IT IN PHASES WOULD BE CHEAPER FOR THE DISTRICT TO DO AND IT TURNED OUT MUCH FASTER. SO WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO PULL THAT PROJECT FORWARD TWO YEARS, IT OPENED IN MULTIPLE PHASES BUT WE WERE ABLE TO OPEN EARLIER AND SAVE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY ON THE PROJECT. >>> MARK? >> BRIAN, THE POINT YOU BROUGHT UP IN ANSWER TO CHRIS' QUESTION AND LEAH'S QUESTION ARE GREAT THINGS THAT WE AUTOTO HAVE THE OUGHT TO HAVE IN OUR HIP POCKET WHEN IT'S BROUGHT UP TO BE QUITE FRANKLY, BUT OUR OPEN HOUSES AND MEETING WE'RE JUST GOING TO POINT IN YOUR DIRECTION TO LET YOU DO IT. BUT THAT SAID WHEN THE QUESTION DOES COME UP IT'S A QUICK WAY TO SHOW -- THE EXAMPLE OF JUANITA IS PERFECT, THE FACT THAT WE CAME IN UNDER TIME, THE UNDER BUDGET AND THE WORD UNDER BUDGET I THINK PROBABLY CARRIES MORE WEIGHT WITH NON-PARENT THAN IT DOES THE PARENTS BUT IF -- YOUR CHARTS AND YOUR SLIDES ARE GREAT BUT YOU SUMMARIZED IT IN A NUT SHELL AND THAT'S WHAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DIFFUSE THE PERSON -- I'LL BE NICE, THE PERSON THAT STARTS HEMMING OR HAVING THE [INDISCERNIBLE] ABOUT THE QUOTE, UNQUOTE, BITTING PROCESS, THE IDEA THAT WE CAN COME IN UNDER BUDGET AND AHEAD OF TIME AND WHEN YOUR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AHEAD OF TIME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT QUALITY OF EDUCATION AS WELL. THANK YOU. >>> I WAS LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF THE QUESTION WAS THE CONCERN ABOUT BIDDING PROCESS CAN HOW THAT PLAYED OUT. KNOWING THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS AROUND THE ALL THE BIDDINGS, THESE ALL COMPLY WITH THOSE STATE REGULATIONS AND THE AUDIT PIECES, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> I THINK THAT'S THE CHI KEY COMPONENT TO IT THAT I WAS HEARING. >> 32ND VERSION. >>> YEAH, AND I THIS THE OTHER PIECE AROUND THAT THAT WE DIDN'T SPEAK TO BUT FOR ANY CHANGE ORDER THAT HAPPENS DURING CONSTRUCTION YOU'RE FUNDING IT AT THAT POINT IN TIME COST AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER METHODS WHERE AS YOU REDUCE CHANGE ORDERS YOU'RE ALSO REDUCING THE COST OF INFLATION OVER TIME WHICH OCCURS, SO THE EARLIER YOU BUILD SOMETHING THE CHEAPER IT IS. SO I HOPE THAT WAS BENEFICIAL TO GIVE YOU AN OREGON VIEW OF THIS,, I KNOW TUG WITH BRIAN ABOUT THIS WAS HELPFUL TO ME TO START CREATING A MENTAL MODEL AROUND WHY WE MAY SELECT ONE PROCESS OVER THE OTHER SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND WE WILL TALK WITH THE BOARD AROUND THE CENTRAL POINTS AROUND THESE. >>> SO TO TOUCH ON OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL ADDITIONS THESE ARE ADDITIONS THAT WE ARE IN THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE, ARCHITECTS SELECTED FOR FIN HILL AND KIM KIRK LAND MIDDLE SCHOOL, MOST RECENTLY THE ARCHITECT FOR WITH A KNEE THAT HIGH SCHOOL AND FOR REDMOND MIDDLE SCHOOL IS HAND HAND AROUNDS, THEY'RE THE ORIGINAL DESIGNER OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND MOST RECENTLY THE LAKE WASHINGTON HIGH SCHOOL. OUR GCM CONTRACTOR IS BN BUILDERS WHICH WAS ALSO THE GCM CONTRACTOR FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ADDITIONS WE COMPLETED IN THE FALL AND STILL HAVE A CORE EXPANSION AT CARSON, THAT'S THE LAST PORTION OF THAT PROJECT. CONSTRUCTION WILL START THIS SUMMER AND PLANNED OCCUPANCY IS THE FALL OF 2024. HERE IS A SCHEMATIC DESIGN AT FIN HILL MIDDLE SCHOOL, A TWO STORY ADDITION ADDING 200 STUDENTS. AS YOU CAN SEE THE ORIGINAL FLOOR PLAN ON THE TOP RIGHT AND WITH THE ADDITION HERE BENEFITS OF THIS IS IT'S A TWO STORY STRUCTURE, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ELEVATIONS ON-SITE. THISTHIS IS A TWO STORY BUT NO ELEVATORS REQUIRED, WE HAVE AN [03:10:06] ADA COMPLIANT RAMP THAT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY AND IT DOES NOT DISRUPT ANY OF THE ASPECTS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL SCHOOL WHICH IS THE LAST POD HERE IN THE DESIGN. >> BRIAN, BEFORE I FORWARD I TO THIS SLIDE I SHOULD HAVE ASKED YOU -- I'VE GOING TO GO BACK ONE, CAN YOU WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE DESIGN -- COULD YOU WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WHERE WE ARE? >> SURE SO PREPLANNING AND PREDESIGN ACTIVITIES START -- YOU'RE PLANNING YOUR PROJECT AND YOU START WITH SOME SURVEYING AND GEO TEN, CONCEPT DESIGNS IS REALLY TEST FACILITY FITS AND IDEAS ON WHAT WE THINK THE SITE -- WILL BE BEST FOR THE STATE AND THE PROJECT, AND AS SCHEMATIC DESIGNS COMES YOU START SEEING WHAT THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE FLOOR PLANS WILL BE INCLUDED IN IT AND THIS PROCESS HAPPENS YOU PRETTY MUCH LOCK IN THAT DESIGN AND THEN THEY START GOING INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. SO ONCE WE GET PAST THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED BUDGET THAT WE'RE STICKING TO AND OUR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS HAPPEN AND THEN YOU GET PERMITS AND CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT'S REALLY THE PHASING OF THE DESIGN. AND JUST A REMINDER WE'RE HERE AT THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN, WE HAVE NOT FINALIZED -- WE'RE STILL IN THIS PROCESS. SO KIRK LAND MIDDLE SCHOOL CURRENTLY SCHEMATIC DESIGN IS A ONE SUPERIOR ADDITION FOR EIGHT CLASSROOMS ADDING CAPACITITY FOR 200 STUDENTS. THIS IS A DETACHED ONE STORY DESIGN. BENEFITS OF THIS DESIGN IT DOES CREATE A NICE LITTLE COURTYARD HERE WE WILL BE ABLE TO ENCLOSE WITH BREEZEWAYS OR FENCING. THIS WE'LL BE ABLE TO EPICLOSE THE COURTYARD. WHAT WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH HAVING OUR GC THERE IS THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF UTILITIES RUNNING THROUGH HERE WHICH MEANS TO RELOCATE SIGNIFICANT COST AND WE HAVE SOME SOILS THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME CIVIL -- EXTRA CIVIL WORK, AND THIS IS THE BACK FILL AREA FROM THE PRIOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE WEIGHING THIS THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN HERE. NEXT ONE. THIS IS IS REDMOND MIDDLE SCHOOL,THIS DESIGN IS A LITTLE FURTHER FORWARD THAN THE OTHER TWO BECAUSE WE'RE IN REDMOND AND THEN THE PLANNING WITH THE CITY O OF REDMOND. THIS IS A TWO STORY ADDITION ADDING CAPACITY FOR 200 KIDS. THIS PIECE HERE IS A NICE ATTACHMENT HERE AND IT ATTACHES SO THIS MAIN AREA AND PROVIDES ANOTHER TIER OF CLASSROOMS HERE. IT CREATES A LITTLE COURTYARD ACROSS FROM THE LIBRARY WHICH IS NICE AND IT KIND OF FINISH OFF THE FRONT OF SCHOOL QUITE NICELY HERE. SO THIS IS AGAIN, WE'RE IN THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PROCESS AND WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO FINALIZE DESIGNS SHORTLY. >> WHY DON'T WE PAUSE THERE AND SEE IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOORE PROJECTS. CHRIS? >> ACTUALLY IT WASN'T NECESSARILY A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROJECTS, I WAS JUST GOING TO LET BRIAN KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IF YOU'RE STILL MOVING THE MOUSE IT'S NOT UPDATING ON THIS END SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MOUSE IS IF YOU'RE DRAWING CIRCLES SO JUST PUT IT SOMEWHERE AND LEAVE IT THERE FOR A COUPLE OF BEATS AND IT WILL UPDATE ON OUR END. >> I THINK IT'S BARBARA THAT WOULD HAVE TO ORIENT THE MOUSE ON THE CAREEN BECAUSE SHE'S DRIVING THE SHOW. >> AND IF YOU NEED ME TO POINT TO SOMETHING LET ME KNOW AND I WILL DO THAT. >> I APOLOGIZE. >> SO I HAVE A QUESTION JUST IN REGARD TO WHEN -- AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH PART OF THIS PROCESS DO YOU START LOOKING AT POTENTIAL SUSTAINABILITY PIECES AND THE ECO NECESSARY AND THAT COMPONENT OF OUR SCHOOLS AND ARE WE CONSIDERING ANY ADDITIONAL [03:15:05] APPROACHES THAT WE'RE DOING EVEN WITH THESE ADDITIONS? >> YEAH, I WOULD SAY IN SCHEMATIC DESIGN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MAJOR MECHANICAL SYSTEMS INVOLVED RELATED TO ENERGY AND THEN REALLY AS YOU MOVE FORWARD INTO IT WILL FURTHER STAGES OF THE DESIGN THAT'S WHERE YOU START DETAILING WHAT IS GOING TO GO INTO THE BUILDING. BUT YES AT ANY TIMES WE COULD ADD SOLAR PANELS, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE ROOFS, BUT IN THIS SYSTEM, WE WOULDN'T JUST, FOR EXAMPLE, DO A GEO THERMAL SYSTEM HERE WITH THE EXISTING SYSTEM. IT'S NOT GEO THERMAL AND TO BE HONEST ONCE YOU PUT THE GEO THERMAL SYSTEM IN IT'S HARD TO ADD TO IT SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE FIXED, YOU CAN'T TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE WITH ADDITIONS AS WHY CAN WITH SOME OF THE NEW BUILDS. >> SO ARE WE CONSIDERING THINGS LIKE SOLAR PANELS AND WORKING TOWARDS A ZERO ENERGY? >> WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT ENERGY EFFICIENT BUILDING AND FOLLOW THE WASHINGTON SEDATE STATE SUSTAINABLE SCHOOLS PROTOCOL AND OUR CURRENT CONSTRUCTION STANDARD IS TO BE SOLAR READY SO THIS BUILDING WILL BE SOLAR READY AND THEN THOSE ARE CHOICES FOR THE OWNER TO DETERMINE IF WE CAN AFFORD TO PUT THE SOLAR PANELS ON BUT THEY'RE -- WE ALWAYS HAVE THEM AVAILABLE TO BE PUT ON, PROVIDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THEM. BUT IN ADDITION WE'RE ALWAYS -- WE'RE USING LED LIGHTING NOW AS A CONSTRUCTION STANDARD, WE EVER LOW FLOW WATER FIXTURES, AND AND LIGHTING CONTROLS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT HELP US PASS THAT CURRENT ENERGY CODE. >>> THANK YOU. >>> BRIAN, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE PANEL READY FOR THINGS LIKE SOLAR WILL YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEAN? I THINK I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS BUT WILL YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THAT MEANS? AND THEN LET'S SAY WE WERE TO ADD SOLAR TO A SCHOOL LIKE REDMOND MIDDLE SCHOOL, IF YOU CAN AND IF YOU CAN'T I GET IT CAN YOU ESTIMATE EITHER PERCENT OF OVERALL PROJECT OR THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IS THIS IT'S? BECAUSE MY GUESS IN OUR LEVY PLANNING WE DIDN'T BUILD INTO THE LEVY, THE CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION LEVY DOLLARS FOR MOVING SCHOOLS TO SOLARRED. >>> CLERK, SO YES IT'S YEAH BEING SOLAR READY MEANS THE ROOFING STRUCTURE CAN HANDLE THE CAPACITY OF SOLAR PANELS, ID SAY -- I WANT TO CALL IT THE INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED NEEDED TO DO THE WIRING AND ELECTRICAL WORK TO MANAGE THAT IS IN PLACE AND DOESN'T REQUIRE DESTRUCTIVE WORK TO PUT THEM IN. THAT'S THE PRIMARY PIECE OF THAT. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER ON SOLAR PANELS BECAUSE IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW MANY YOU PUT IN AND HOW MUCH THE SITE REALLY WOULD BENEFIT FROM THEM. SO THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT. WE OFTEN -- WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOLAR AND APPLY FOR GRANTS FOR SOLAR, WE HAVE RECENTLY APPLIED, NOT SELECTED BUT APPLIED FOR A PROJECT, IS WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THOUGH OPPORTUNITIES AND HAVE A CONTRACTOR -- WE HAVE SEVERAL APPROVED ENERGY SERVICES CONTRACTORSES THAT WE WORK WITH TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT. >> GREAT, THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR MOORE MOORE MIDDLE SCHOOL PROJECTS. >>> ALONG THE LINES OF THE SUSTAINABILITY CONSIDERSES DO WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR CONTRACTORS ABOUT SUSTAINABLE BUILDING PRACTICES? SO WASTE WITH CONSTRUCTION AND JUST ALL THOSE COMPONENTS AS WELL, NOT ONLY KIND OF WHAT'S GOING INTO THE BUILDING ITSELF [03:20:02] BUT THE BUILDER'S IMPACTS? >> ABSOLUTELY. IN OUR CONTRACTORS ALSO HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO MINIMIZE WASTE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. JUANITA HIGH SCHOOL IS A GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE WE SAVED PIECES OF THE OLD BUILDING AND REFABRICATED THEM FOR BENCHES CAN COUNTERTOP THIS IS THE COMMONS AREA FOR STUDENTS TO SIT AND EAT AT AND SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE RESOURCES ON THE SITE AND BEING ABLE TO PUT THEM INTO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SITE. >>> OKAY. GREAT. WHY DON'T WE JUMP INTO THE EAST LAKE AREA. >>> SO THIS IS A HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY PROJECT ON THE EAST SIDE. THIS IS SITE 59. WE'RE AT CONCEPT DESIGN, WE'VE SELECTED OUR ACTOR, MAYL ERICM CHARACTERS AND OUR GCM CONTRACTOR IS SCAN SCA AND WE HAVE HELD OUR PRE-APPLICATION WITH THE CITY OF SMALLISH AND PLANNED OCCUPANCY FOR THIS PROJECT IN THE TALL OF 2025. THIS IS A CONCEPT DESIGN ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS AN AERIAL OF THE EXISTING SITE AND TO THE LEFT IS THE CONCEPT DESIGN AERIAL. THIS IS A 15 AND A HALF ACRE SITE WITHIN THE TOWN CENTER AND WE HAVE WET LANDS LIMITATIONS TO THE WEST. WE CAN BUILD UP TO FOUR STORIES ON THIS SITE, THE PROJECT IS 24 CLASSROOMS, 58,000 SQUARE FEET FOR 600 STUDENTS THIS. PROJECT AND SITE ALLOWS FOR MULTIPLE PHASES WHEREAS UP TO A POTENTIAL OF FOUR BUILDING STRUCTURES IF YOU INCLUDE STRUCTURED PARKING COULD FIT ON THIS SITE. >> AND AS REMINDER ABOUT THIS SITE IN THIS AREA AS WE THINK ABOUT THE OVERALL BUILDING EXCELLENCE PLAN, SITE 59 REALLY IS GOING TO BE DESIGNED IN A MANNER THAT PROVIDES SUPPORT FOR HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY IN THE SHORT-TERM, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A FLEXIBLE ENOUGH SPACE THAT AS WE OPEN A 50 COMPREHENSIVE HIGH SCHOOL THAT THIS SPACE CAN THEN BE RECONSIDERED FOR OTHER EDUCATIONAL SERVICES, AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO. WE KNOW THAT AS TOWN CENTER AND SMALLISH GETS BUILT OUT THAT THE NEEDS FOR ELEMENTARY WILL EXIST, WE NO THAT ENGLEWOOD MIDDLE SCHOOL IS ONE OF THE LARGER MOORES IN THE AREA AND THE STATE SO THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THAT. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAWIER THOUGHT ABOUT FOR THIS SITE BUT IN THE SHORT-TERM IT NEEDS TO BE HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY AND THAT'S THE EDUCATION PLANNING PORTION OF THIS THAT WE'LL THINK THROUGH EC HOW DO WE PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR STUDENTS ATTENDING EAST LAKE HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE I THINK BARBARA TOLD ME 20 MINUTES AGO THEY'RE NOT OF 2200 STUDENTS RIGHT NOW AND WE HAVE FLEXED AND MODIFIED AND UPDATED EVERY SPACE POSSIBLE AT EAST LAKE HIGH SCHOOL, SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT CAPACITY NUMBER AT EAST LAKE, IT SAYS RIGHT AROUND 2200 BUT THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE SQUEEZED EVERY LAST SPACE INTO A CLASSROOM SPACE AT EAST LAKE HIGH SCHOOL AND FOR MANY, MANY YEARS THE TARGET OF A 150 TO 1800 HIGH SCHOOL REALLY HAS BEEN WHAT THE BOARD HAS TARGETED. WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE'VE NOT PASSED THE BOND PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE WANTED TO OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS WE'RE IN A PLACE WHERE A NUMBER OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS ARE LARGER THAN WE BELIEVE ARE BEST FOR STUARTS SO THAT'S KIND OF THE GOES TALLET AROUND THAT CURRENT SPACE AND WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL EDUCATIONAL PLANNING TO DO. MARK. >>> ON EAST LAND MARKS AS OPPOSED TO SQUARE FOOTAGE CAN YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA OF ARE -- [03:25:02] THIS PROPERTY DEPOSIT THE METRO MARKET? >> CORRECT IT'S CORRECTLY IN FRONT OF EAST SIDE CATH ARTHRITIC CAN THE ROAD THAT IS SHADED TO THE SOUTH IS CRUSADER WAY. >>> OKAY, SO IT'S ACROSS THE STREET EAST. >> YEAH, DIRECTLY EAST >>> OKAY, I WANTED TO DOUBLE-CHECK >>> ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SITE? SIRI. >>> SO AS YOU GO FORWARD TO TALK ABOUT THE ELSE PROGRAMMING WHEN YOU SAY UP TO FOUR BUILDINGS IS THAT THAT GREEN AREA THAT I SEE? YOU CAN PUT OTHER BUILDINGS INTO THAT AREA? >> CORRECTER. SO@WEST IS THE WETLANDS THERE'S FINAL ACRES OF BUILDABLE SPACE WITH WETLANDS SO IT'S ABOUT 60 PERCENT OF THE SITE FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST IS BUILDABLE AND THEN THE WET LANDS ON E-ARE ON THE FRONT. >> SO THE CURSER IS CURRENTLY -- WHENEVER THAT WAS. >> SORRY. UNMUTE TO MAKE SURE I'VE POINTING THE CURSER IN THE RIGHT PLACE. >> SO THE CURSER IS ON THE WET LANDS AREA, THE AREA TO THE LEFT IS THE BUILDABLE AREA. >> SO AS YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM HOW WILL THAT BE INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY UP THERE ON WHICH TO HAVE THAT CUSHION DISCUSSION ON THAT WHAT MIGHT LIKE LIKE. >> SO WE'RE GOING TO PULL AN INTERNAL TEAM TOGETHER TO DESIGN THE PROCESS FOR HOW DO WE GO VOICE INTO THIS AND SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT TEAM DEVELOPED TODAY, AND SO IN THE COMING YOU KNOW MONTHS WE'LL PULL THAT TEAM TOGETHER TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP A PROCESS. BECAUSE THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY AND IT NEEDS TO BE IN CONSIDERATION OF THE STUDENTS' INTERSPERSES AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL. >>> RIGHT, SO JUST WANT TOT ENSURE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THOUGH MOST IMPACTED AND WILL THEY BE ENGAGED IN THAT PROCESS OF HAVING THOSE DISCUSSES. >> YES. >> GREAT. >>> THANK YOU. >>> OTHER THAN, THIS IS THE ADDITIONAL HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY ON THE WEST SIDE, WE REALLY HAVEN'T STARTED THIS PROJECT YET, PLANNING IN THE SPRING OF 24, PLANNED OCCUPANCY IS IN THE FALL OF 27, THE SITE IS STILL TO BE DETERMINEED. SO THIS WE'VE SHOWN YOU BEFORE IS A 2017 FEASIBILITY STUDY ON THE SITE OF CAMMIE CAN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ON THE TOP RIGHT THERE THAT SHOWS PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT'S A RECENTLY. PURCHASED PROPERTY FOR US SO THAT WILL BECOME PART OF THIS SITE. THIS SITE HAS OPTIONS TO KEEP THE EXISTING SCHOOL FOR THE FLEX SPACE AND PRESCHOOL AND/OR OTHER. IT HAS A MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT CAN FIT ON THE SITE ALONG WITH OTHER POTENTIAL HIGH SCHOOL, CHOICE HIGH SCHOOL. WITH EL IT SAYS CHOICE BUT HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY. AGAIN, FALL OF 2027 IS THE ADDITIONAL HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY THERE >>> ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? I KNOW THAT SINCE PLANNING HASN'T BEGUN AND WE DON'T HAVE DOLLARS FOR A REPLACEMENT RIGHT NOW. SIRI? YOU'RE MUTED AT THIS POINT. >>> WE'RE TRYING TO UNMUTE, THANK YOU. SO SEEING THAT YOUR SITE OPTIONS ARE CAMMIE CAN OR NEW PROPERTY BUT THERE IS NO NEW PROPERTY CONCEPT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? >> CORRECT. >> CORRECT, PART OF THE 2022 CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION LEVY WAS ALSO DOLLARS FOR LAND, AND SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH A PROCESS TO MAKE CONSIDERATIONS THERE AS WELL. AS YOU KNOW THERE'S NOT A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF SITES THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE HIGH SCHOOL CAPACITY ACROSS THE KIRKLAND REGION, SO YES IT IS A HUGE SITE SO WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS IS HOW DO WE MAXIMIZE THE SPACE GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO KIM KIRKLAND AND [03:30:05] THOSE AREAS. ALL RIGHT. AND SO AS WE GO INTO THE -- AS YOU ALL KNOW THE ORIGINAL LEVY THAT WE TOOK OUT TO THE VOTERS WE IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR ELEMENTARY CAPACITY IN THE REDMOND AREA AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE SLIDE WE TOOK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE SAID THAT THIS LEVY WOULD FUND CAPACITY IN THE REDMOND AREA FOR 550 ELEMENTARY STUDENTS, 600 STUDENTS THROUGH ADDITIONS THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT TODAY AND 1200 HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHICH WE JUST TALKED ABOUT ABOUT AND THEN THE ACK SIX OF PROPERTY. AS WE WENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY REGARDING THE ELEMENTARY SITE WE TALKED ABOUT ABUSING THE UNDERIF DEVELOPED OR UNDERUSES PORTION OF THE REDMOND ELEMENTARY CAMPUS THAT ALIGNED WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT COMPONENTS GIVEN THAT WE HAD THE FACILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE KNEW THAT AREA WAS GOING TO THE EXPERIENCE RAPID GROWTH SO THERE WAS A LOGIC TO WHY THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS THE AREA. THE NEXT SLIDE IS AS WE THEN CONTINUED TO CONSTRUCT OUR BUILDING EXCELLENCE PLAN AND THIS IS ON THE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN SEE THE FIRST SQUARE BULLET ON THIS STATES AT A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON UNDERDEVELOPED LAND ON REDMOND ELEMENTARY CAMPUS WITH FOR ABOUT 55TH STUDENTS SO THAT'S THE BEST THING AT THE TIME GIVEN THE DATA WE HAD AVAILABLE TO US. SO I WANT TO WALK THROUGH SOME INFORMATION THAT HAS CAUSED US TO CONSIDER IF A DIFFERENT DECISION SHOULD BE MADE RELATED TO THE REDMOND AREA. SO I WANT TO WALK THROUGH THAT. SO THE NEXT SLIDE THIS AS YOU ALL KNOW. AS WE THINK ABOUT REDMOND PROPER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOLS THAT PRIMARILY FEED INTO REDMOND MIDDLE SCHOOL, NOT TALKING ABOUT OUR REDMOND COMMUNITY ON THE RIDGE OR UNION HILL, THIS IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE DOWNTOWN CORE EDUCATIONAL HILL AREA T. AND SO THE FACILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE CAME TOGETHER AND MADE RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND A NUMBER OF ELEMENTS REGARDING CAPACITY CONSIDERATIONS IN LAKE WASHINGTON, AND SO AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS BASED ON THE FEBRUARY 2020 PROJECTIONS THAT FLOW ANALYTICS PROVIDESSED US HELPED US THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE MASTER PLAN THE BUILDING EXCELLENCE FUNDING AND CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM, THAT THOSE PROJECTIONS WERE BASED ON THE CONTINUED GROWTH IN DOWNTOWN REDMOND, BOTH CITY CENTER AND MERRY MOOR VILLAGE WHICH WILL ACCOMPLISH ABOUT 3200 ADDITIONAL UNITS IN IN AREA. THE ANTICIPATED GROWTH FROM THAT IS ABOUT THREE TO 400 ELEMENTARY STUDENTS OR ABOUT 600 K-12 AND THAT'S WITHIN THE NEXT THREE YEARS. AND AT RECOMMENDATION THE COMMITTEE MADE WAS TO USE UNDERDEVELOPED PROPERTY AND SPECIFICALLY AT THE REDMOND ELEMENTARY CAMPUS IS ONE THEY IDENTIFIED. SO NEXT SLIDE OUR CURRENT SITUATION, AS WE ALL KNOW OUR NUMBERS, OUR ENROLL. AND PROJECTIONS HAVE MODIFIED SINCE PRE-PANDEMIC, AND SO OUR CURRENT NUMBERS ARE LOWER THAN PROJECTIONS SO IT ISN'T JUST THAT OUR PROJECTIONS HAVE CHANGED OUR CURRENT ENROLLMENT TODAY IS LOWER THAN OUR PROJECTIONS WERE FOR THIS YEAR. WE KNOW THAT FLOW AS THEY GO THROUGH THEIR ANNUAL PROCESS WITH US THEY WILL PROVIDE US WITH UPDATED ENROLLMENT FORECASTS AND PROJECTIONS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS SO END OF JANUARY, BEGINNING THE MIDDLE OF FEBRUARY WE WILL RECEIVE THOSE UPDATED PROJECTIONS, WHICH WILL HELP AS US AS WE THINK ABOUT THE LONG-TERM PLAN AND DECISIONS. THE NEXT SLIDE WE PUT THIS TOGETHER AND I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF DATA SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN CHUNKS, FIRST COLUMN JUST DESCRIBING WHAT WE'RE RAIDING SO REDMOND ELEMENTARY SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THAT WAS THE TARGET OF THE CAPACITY CONCERN. THE REDMOND LEARNING AREA ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WHICH ARE THOSE REDMOND CORE DOWNTOWN REDMOND AND EDUCATION HILL [03:35:07] SCHOOLS AND THEN YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM JUST THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AROUND PERMIT AND CAPACITY SHORTFALLS, REDMOND MIDDLE SCHOOL FEEDER ELEMENTARIES AND TIMBERLINE MIDDLE SCHOOL FEEDERS BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO MIDDLE SCHOOL FEEDERS RIGHT NOW. >> AND JOHN CAN I CLARIFY THE SECOND ROW THE REDMOND AREA LEARNING SCHOOLS IS THE REDMOND MIDDLE SCHOOL FEEDER AND -- >> AND TIMBERLINE, THANK YOU. SO LET'S START AT THAT FIRST ROW WITH REDMOND ELEMENTARY AND WE TOOK A POINT IN TIME WHICH HAVE FALL 2029 TO BENCH MARK OUR PROJECTION AND YOU CAN SEE THE JANUARY 2020 PROJECTION WHICH WAS OVER A THOUSAND STUDENTS IN THE REDMOND ELEMENTARY BOUNDARY WAS ADJUSTED THE NEXT AREA DOWN TO 855 THIS WAS ADJUSTED THIS AREA TO 831 SO YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECTION HAS SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SET OF DATA WITH PROJECTION AND ACTUAL OUR PROJECTION FOR THIS YEAR'S ENROLL. AT REDMOND ELEMENTARY WAS 6882, OUR ON THE 2022 IEN ROLLMENT WAS 546, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE PROJECTION NOW THAT WE ARE ABOUT 135 STUDENTS EVEN LOWER THAN THE PROJECTED NUMBER FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR. SO. >> AND JOHN CAN I JUST ADD JUST SOME CONNECTION TO ABOUT HOW FLOW DID THEIR PROJECTIONS SO THE JANUARY 2020 PROJECTIONS WERE OBVIOUSLY PRE-PANDEMICABLE, AND SO OBVIOUSLY ALL DEMOLLIFIERS WERE CHALLENGED HOW TO PREPARE LONG-TERM FORECASTS THE NEXT YEAR DURING THE PANDEMIC SO WHAT FLOW DECIDED TO DO AS MANY DRINKS DID WE HAD ONE OF THE FEWEST LOSSES OF ENROLLMENT BUT STILL WE DID LOSE ENROLLMENT SO IN JANUARY OF 21 FOR THE LONG RANGE PROJECTIONS FLOW MADE APP LITU MADE AN ASSUMPTION AT A 85 PERCENT OF THOSE STUDENTS WE LOST DUE TO COVID WOULD RETURN, SO THOSE PROJECTIONS THAT'S THE JAB 2021 PRO-JESTERS AND WHEN THEY UPDATED THE PROJECTION AS YEAR LATER THEY FURTHER REFINED THAT AND ASSUMINGED THAT 25 PERCENT OF THE LOSS BECAUSE WE DID GAIN BACK -- WE DID RECEIVE SOME OF THAT LOSS BUT THEY WERE STILL TRACKING THE NUMBER OF STUDENT WE LOST SO THEY ASSUMED IN LAST YEAR'S PROJECTIONS THE 25 PERCENT OF COVID LOSS WOULD RETURN, SO THAT FEEDS INTO THAT TALL OF 2022 PROJECTION THAT YOU SIGH OF THE 682, SO JUST WANT TO PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL CONTEXT. >>> GREAT. STUDENT DUTY TO TALK THROUGH THE REDMOND DEET AS WELL? GIANT THE SECOND ROW OF DATA IS THEIR PROJECTIONS FOR THE EIGHT SCHOOLS IN THE REDMOND LEARNING AREA THAT'S EINSTEIN, BARTON, MAN, REDMOND ELEMENTARY, ROCK WELL AND THEN IN THE TIMBERLINE FEEDER IT'S ELLA BAKER ROSA PARKS AND WILDER SO THAT'S THE FIRST THREE COLUMNS WERE THE 47, 79 THROUGH THE 4,092 THOSE WERE THERE LONG-TERM PROJECTIONS FOR THE ENROLLMENT OF THOSE EIGHT SCHOOL COMBINED AND THEN I'LL STICK WITH THE LEFT SIDE FOR NOW AND THEN WE COMPARE THOUGH ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS WITH CAPACITY SO WHEN THE FACILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS LOOKING AT THE ORIGINAL JANUARY 2020 PROJECTIONS THE PERMANENT CAPACITY SHORTFALL SO THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE PORTABLES AND WE HAVE CAPACITY OF 828 PORTABLES OR -- WE HAVE 36 PORTABLES PROVIDING CAPACITY FOR 828 STUDENTS. LITTLE SAY THAT DIFFERENTLY SO WE WERE SHORT 76TH TWO STUDENTS IN PERMANENT CAPACITY BASED ON THOSE PROJECTIONS AND THEN THE NUMBERS BELOW THAT A JUST A BREAKOUT OF THE REDMOND MIDDLE SCHOOL FEEDER SCHOOLS VERSUS IS IT TIMBERLINE FEEDER SCHOOLS SO AS THOSE PROJECTIONS WERE WE FINED YOU CAN SEE THE PERMANENT SHORTFALL BY THE FEBRUARY 2022 PROJECTIONS WERE SHORTFALL OF 75 STUDENTS BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT [03:40:05] THAT BROKEN OUT TEEN THE REDMOND MIDDLE SCHOOL AREA AND TIMBERLINE WE STILL SHORT ABOUT 209 STUDENTS AND YOU BUT HAVE A AN EXTRA CAPACITY OF 134 IN THE TIMBERLINE FEEDER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLSS. THEN MOVING TO THE RIGHT SIDE JUST SHOWING THE CURRENT -- THE SECOND ROW SHOWS THE CURRENT TOTAL ENROLLMENT PROJECTION AND THE TOTAL ACTUAL ENROLLMENT AT LAST COLUMN OF 3,027 STUDENTS RIGHT NOW IN THOSE EIGHT SCHOOLS, CURRENTLY THERE IS NOT A PERMANENT CAPACITY SHORTFALL TODAY, WE HAVE 290 IN THE REDMOND LEARNING AREA SCHOOLS AND WHEN YOUBREAK IT OUT BETWEEN REDMOND AND TIMBERLINE WE HAVE 129 AND 1601 STUDENT CAPACITY AND RIGHT NOW WE KNOW AGAIN WE KNOW THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT STILL HAPPENING DOWNTOWN BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE INCOMING KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST GRADE SECOND GRADE NUMBERS ARE LOWER AS WELL. >>> OKAY S THE NEXT SLIDE REALLY AS WE THINK ABOUT OUR RESPONSIBILITY AROUND -- FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY OUR COMMITMENT TO USING OUR COMMUNITY'S RESOURCES TO THE BEST DEGREE POSSIBLE AND ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF OUR INSTITUTES STUDENTS IN THE AREA IT FELT LIKE CONDUCTING AN EVALUATION AND MAKING SURE WE'RE MAKING THE BEST DECISION, THAT WE HAVE THE INFORMATION WE BRING IN WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS THE CHANGED ENOUGH TO CAUSE US TO REALLY RECONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT ADDING AN ELEMENTARY SITE ON THE RED L CAMPUS WAS THE BEST USE OF THOUGH RESOURCES SO JUST WANT TO WALK THROUGH AS WE THINK ABOUT EVALUATING THIS AND COMING BACK TO THE BOARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION AND OUR NEXT SLIDE IS ASKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AROUND WHAT INFORMATION AND DATA DO YOU WANT AS PART OF THAT RECOMMENDATION AS WE COME BACK TO YOU IN A FEW MONTHS AROUND EITHER STATUS QUO RECOMMENDATION OR AN UPDATED RECOMMENDATION TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SO YOU CAN SEE HER AS WE THINK ABOUT EVALUATING THIS WE'RE ALWAYS MONITORING OUR ENROLLMENT DATA AND PROJECTIONS AND HAVING FLOW AS A PARTNER IN ALL THIS WE KNOW THE TIME LINE IF FOR WHEN THEY WILL GET US THAT INFORMATION AND THAT'S IN THE JANUARY FEBRUARY TIMELINE WHEN WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT SETTLE OF UPDATED DATA. WEATHER HEADLINE WESTERLY THAT MAKING A DETERMINATION THEN ALLOWS BRIAN AND HIS TEAM TO DO THEIR PART OF THE PROCESS WHICH IS WHAT HE JUST DESCRIBED WHICH IS LENGTHY AND INVOLVED. AND SO GETTING A RECOMMENDATION OR A FINAL DETERMINATION HERE IN THREE, FOUR MONTHS IS IMPORTANT IN THAT REGARD. SO THE CONSIDERSES THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IS STATUS QUO WOULD BE TO ADD THAT CAPACITY ON THE REDMOND ELEMENTARY CAMPUS. IT'S WHAT WAS DETERMINED AND WE HAVE THE SPACE FOR IT, WE HAVE STARTED THAT WORK ALREADY SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS. AT CENTRAL THAT WE HAVE EXPRESSED TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THE BOARD HAS EXPRESSED IS UPDATING AGING FACILITIES AND WITHIN THE REDMOND AREA WE KNOW THAT ROCK WELL ELEMENTARY IS ONE OF THOSE SCHOOLS THAT IS AN AGING FACILITY AND SO OUR EFFORT OF REBUILDING AND ENLARGING ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS COULD ACCOMPLISH A COME OF THINGS. ONE, IT COULD ADDRESS THAT ISSUE OF THINKING ABOUT OUR AGING FITTINGS AND IT CAN INCREASE CAPACITY. WHEN WE INCREASE CAPACITY AT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THIS MODEL IT DOES NOT ADD THE SAME LEVEL OF CAPACITY AS IF WE BUILT ANOTHER SITE SO THOSE ARE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT. REDUCING OUR RELIANCE ON PORTABLES IS ANOTHER VALUE THAT OUR COMMUNITY SHARED WITH US, THE FACILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED AND THE BOARD HAD TALKED THOUGHT ABOUT INTEREST AS WELL BECAUSE WE KNOW ANYTIME YOU ADD PORTABLES TO A [03:45:01] CAMPUS IT'S DISKEPTED FROM ADDITION THERE THE SCHOOL AND IT IS NOT INTENDED TO BE PERMANENT AND YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD HEAVY RELIANCE ON PORTABLES OVER TIME. KNOWING THAT THE EXPERIENCE OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THIS IS THE REDMOND AREA IS DIFFERENT THAN WAS ORIGINALLY PROJECTED THERE IS SPACING CAPACITY TO CUPCAKE CONDUCT AN ADJUSTMENT AND SHIFT STUDENTS IN THAT WAY SO WE CAN SHIFT STUDENT ENROLLMENT TO WHERE THERE IS SPACE WITHIN THE LEARNING COMMUNITY. WE ALSO KNOW WHEN WE GO THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES WE CAN LOOK AT OUR PROGRAMS TO ALIGN THE PROGRAMS WHERE THERE'S SPACE AND CAPACITY SO THOSE ARE AS WE THINK ABOUT BRINGING THE BOARD AN UPDATED RECOMMENDATION, THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO CONSIDER AND THINK ABOUT. SO THE NEXT SLIDE IS A QUESTION FOR THE BOARD AND WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT ARE THE CONSIDERSES THAT SHOULD BE MADE TO THE EVALUATION OF CAPACITY IN THE REDMOND AREA, SO THE QUESTION ISN'T WHAT SHOULD WIDOW TODAY, THE QUESTION IS WAS THE INFORMATION I JUST SHARED DOES THAT PROVIDE ENOUGH CONTEXT FOR THE BOARD IN MAKING THAT DETERMINATION OR ARE THERE OTHER DATA OR INFORMATION THAT AS PART OF THE EVALUATION YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING FORWARD. MARK? . >>> MAYBE I MISSED IT JOHN BUT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT CADMAN DID WE? >> NO, THIS IS NOT IN RELATION TO CADMAN. >> NO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HADN'T MISS SOMETHING. OKAY. THANKS. >>> YEP. >>> ERIC? >> I MEAN THE MOST OBVIOUS THAT YOU FLAGGED IS WHETHER WE HAVE -- WHETHER WE PROJECT TO HAVE PERMANENT CAPACITY ISSUES IN THIS LEARNING COMMUNITY, SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW I MEAN I CAN GUESS WHERE IT'S HIDING BUT WE DON'T KNOW, RIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROJECTIONS ARE GOING TO SHOW SO TO ME THAT'S THE PRIMARY CONSIDERATION IS DO WE HAVE A CAPACITY ISSUE AND THE WE DO THEN I THINK THE DECISION IS ONE THING AND IF WE DON'T THEN IT COULD BE ANOTHER. >>> LEAH? >>> I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IF ANY OTHER AREAS IN OUR DISTRICT ARE SEEING A SIGNIFICANT OF A SHIFT FROM PROJECTIONS. SO ARE WE HAVING STUDENTS MOVING TO OTHER AREAS WITHIN OUR DISTRICT OR COMING IN IN DIFFERENT AREAS THAN WHERE WE INITIALLY THOUGHT AND THEREFORE COULD WE REDISBURSE THE FUNDINGS POTENTIALLY? >> . >>> SIRI? >> I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHERE THE GROWTH IS EXPECTED OF THE THREE TO 400 YOU SAID DOWNTOWN CORE AS WELL AS MERRY -- VILLAGE AND THOSE ARE STRIKINGLY DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IN RID MONDAY ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TO ACCESS SO THAT WOULD BE A PIECE I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN. >>> IT'S A LITTLE MORE MINOR ANALYSIS OF THE AREA IS THAT A FAIR -- >> JUST NO, NOT MIRAMAR VILLAGE HAS A HUGE PIECE AND WE HAVE NOTHING THAT AREA THAT SERVES STUDENTS K 12 AND IT'S BOUNDED BY LIGHT RAIL AND MERRY MOOR AND 220 SO IT CREATES AN INTERESTING ENVIRONMENT OVER THERE, SOST THAT JUST THING TO MIGHT THINK ABOUT AS WE GO FORWARD. >> JOHN, THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE'RE EXAMINING TO RECEIVE IN JANUARY, WHAT WILL BE THE -- WILL THOSE BE FOR 2026 OR WILL IT BE A FURTHER OUT PROJECTED DATE. >>> SO FLOW PROVIDES A TEN YEAR PROJECTION SO IT WILL GO OUT TO 2032. >> OKAY, EXCELLENT BECAUSE I WAS -- THAT WAS GOING TO BE ANOTHER CONSIDERATION FOR ME SO [03:50:01] IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE USING THAT 2026 -- I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE TOO NARROW. OKAY. MY GUESS THEN IS WE WILL STILL SEE BUT THAT FAR OUT WE WILL PROBABLY STILL SEE SOME PERMANENT -- >>> THE ONLY -- WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH ALL OUR CITIES BUT THE CITY OF RID MONDAY IS STILL IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TOO WHICH WOULDN'T -- WILL DETERMINE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO FOCUS THEIR GROWTH AREAS TOO SO WE MAY NOT HAVE THAT FINALIZED BY FEBRUARY BUT -- SO . . . >>> OKAY. >>> THINGS WHAT I ALSO KNOW, I JUST DROPPED A BIG TOPIC IN THE ROOM TODAY SO IF YOU HAVE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS LET'S SCHEDULE A TIME TO TALK ABOUT OR SHOOT MEN E-MAIL BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE A VERY IMPORTANT ACTIVITY FOR US TO GO THROUGH. AND WHAT I KNOW IS WHATEVER DECISION WE MAKE IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT AND WRONG ALL AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE THERE'S -- OUR PROJECTION -- THE ENROLLMENT PROJECTIONS THERE'S UNDERLYING DATA THAT I THINK WILL BE IMPORTANT TO ELEVATE, BIRTHRATES AND THOSE KIND OF EXEMPTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE TELLING SIGNS AS THOSE ARE DOWN AS WELL, SO WE KNOW THAT AS BIRTHRATES GO WE SEE SOME SORT OF -- NOT PREDICTABILITY BUT IT DOES INDICATE JUST SOME SOCIETAL CHANGES, AND THAT'S TRUE REALLY NOT JUST IN OUR AREA OR THIS KING COUNTY THAT WE MONITOR BIRTHRATES, SO AS YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PLEASE LET ME KNOW SOME OTHER THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS PATCH THAT EVALUATION. SIRI. >>> SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MIGRATION ESPECIALLY IMMIGRATION AND SOME OF THE IMPACTS THAT HAS OCCURRED ESPECIALLY BEING THIS THE TECH INDUSTRY, BEING SUCH A HUGE COMPONENT AND HOW IS THAT INFLUENCING POTENTIALLY THAT DECLINE AND HOW DO WE PAY ATTENTION TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS POTENTIALLY A PIECE OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE >>> ERIC? SO I GUESS I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING AND [INDISCERNIBLE] WE DON'T HAVE AN EXPLICIT POLICY THAT OUR FOCUS IS ON CONSTRUCTION IS ON CAPACITY INSTEAD OF MODERNIZATION BUT THAT HAS CERTAINLY BEEN OUR PRACTICE FOR A DECADE NOW MAYBE, RIGHT? I THINK TO SHIFT DOLLARS FROM -- YOUR SECOND BULLET POINT IS ADDRESS AGING FACILITIES AND INCREASE CAPACITY BUT IN MY VIEW THAT WOULD BE SORT OF A POLICY SHIFT FOR SHIFTING MONEY -- SHIFTING MONEY TO MORE OF A MODERNIZATION PROGRAM. AT LEAST FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. THAT PRESENTS I THINK POTENTIALLY AN ISSUE DISTRICT-WIDE WITH FUTURE -- IF WE ARE NOT -- I THINK WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE -- WE NEED ADDITIONAL DOLLARS BECAUSE -- WE NEED TO PUT MORE STUDENT -- WE NEED MORE SPACE FOR STUDENTS AND IF WE'RE NOT SPENDING THAT MONEY ON STUDENTS SPACE BUT ON MODERNIZATION I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE LARGER DISTRICT AND WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL BE ABLE THE SHIFT TO IN OTHER LEARNING COMMUNITYIES TOO. I THINK AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT. >>> SIRI? >> SO JUST CONTINUING THAT I WOULD AGREE THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT ALONG THE LINES OF IN THE THE REEVALUATION OF THIS, WHAT ARE THE OVERALL GOALS AND VISION THAT WE HAVE IN REGARDS TO OUR FACILITIES AND REDMOND WAS THE TARGET BECAUSE OF WHERE THE DEET WAS SHOWING AT THAT POINT. THAT DOESN'T HOLD IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE OR REALITY IS HOW DOES THAT FIT WITHIN THE REDMOND COMMUNITY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS WHAT THE GOALS WERE THERE EFFECTIVELY, SO I SOMEWHAT -- I WILL TAKE A SLIGHT DISAGREEMENT IN REGARD TO THAT [03:55:04] WE DIDN'T DO MODERNIZATION, WE ACTUALLY TABLED MODERNIZATION BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND OF THE GROWTH BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PUSH INITIALLY AND THEN IT GOT SHIFTED. SO NOW THE QUESTION IS IF THAT GROWTH IS SETTLING ARE WE NOW BEING ABLE TO DO SOME OF THE MODERNIZATION WITH ADDITION PIECE TO IT AND BE THINKING ABOUT -- SO I GUESS THAT EVALUATION CAPACITY FROM THAT PIECE. >>> I AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL ONE DAY BE ABLE TO SHIFT BACK TO A FOCUS ON MODERNIZATION. I JUST THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT HERE I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN A LARGER CONTEXT OF WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO DISTRICT-WIDE. >> AGREED BUT YOU CAN REMIND HOW MANY SCHOOLS DO WE HAVE LEFT TO BE MODERNIZES? >> I THINK IT'S FIVE. >> FIVE NOW SO THE TWO MEDICAL MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND -- >> THREE ELEMENTARIES. >> BECAUSE JUANITA WAS A MODERN MODERNIZATION? >> YES. >> JOHN WERE YOU ABOUT THE CHALLENGE SOMETHING I SAID? >> NO, I WAS GOING TO OFFER WITH OUR LAST BOND PROGRAM WE HAD THREE MODERNIZATIONS THAT OCCURRED AND WITH EACH OF THOSE WE ALSO ADDED CAPACITY, SO WE HAD JUANITA HIGH SCHOOL, PETER KIRK ELEMENTARY AND MARGARET MEAD ELEMENTARY. >>> YES, I APPRECIATE THAT BUT BIG -- MY OWN VIEW HAS BEEN THAT OUR FOCUS -- MY FOCUS HAS BEEN ON SPACE AND CAPACITY AND CREATING ADDITIONAL CAPACITY AS A PRIORITY OVER MODERNIZATION. >>> YES, MAXIMIZING STUDENT CAPACITY. TO BE HONEST THAT WAS ONE OUR OUR CONVERSATIONS AS WELL BECAUSE WE WENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TALKING ABOUT CAPACITY FOR FIVE FIRST TIME STUDENTS. THIS WOULD NOT ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL. LEAH? >> TO SHIRI'S COMMENT I THINK IT'S VALUABLE FOR US TO REACH OUT TO OUR TECH BUSINESS PARTICIPATES IN THIS AREA DO FIND OUT IF THERE WILL BE A SHIFT TOWARDS THEIR POLICIES ON REMOTE WORK PERMANENTLY. I JUST KNOW FOR A FACT I KNOW SPECIFIC FAMILIES THAT MOVED OUT OF THE AREA BUT MAINTAIN THEIR JOBS, AND IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER SHIFT TOWARDS ASKING EMPLOYEES TO COME BACK IN PERSON THEN THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION ABOUT CAPACITY PROJECTIONS BEING INACCURATE MAY JUST BE PUSHED OUT POTENTIALLY. SO HAVING INFORMATION OR SOME CONVERSATIONS TO PROVIDE SOME INSIGHTS POTENTIALLY >>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR NOW? OKAY. THANK YOU. >>> ALL RIGHT. SO THE LAST PART OF THE PRESENTATION WE JUST WANT THE GIVE YOU -- WE ALWAYS GIVE YOU A FINANCIAL UPDATE WITH EACH OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, SO WE WANTED TO JUST SHARE WITH YOU KIND OF WHAT FUNDS ARE REMAINING THAT CAN BE USED TO SUPPORT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS PREDESIGN AND PLANNING. SO YOU'VE SEEN THESE SLIDES BEFORE. WE REFINE THEM AS WE CLOSE OUT PROJECTS. AS OF AUGUST WE HAVE CLOSED 22 WE HAVE CLOSED OUT ALL OF OUR 2016 BOND PROJECTS SO WE EVER WE HAVE A TOLD OF 458 MILLION-DOLLAR IN REVENUE, 398 WAS FUNDED BY BONDS AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO -- THAT PROVIDED US WITH STATE CONSTRUCTION ASSISTANCE IMPACT FEES, INTEREST EARNINGS PROVIDED AN ADDITIONAL 60 MILLION IN REVENUE TO SPEND ON PROJECTS SO WE SPENT $429 MILLION ON THE 2016 BOND PROGRAM. [04:00:05] THE AND THEN SO IS THAT ALLOWED -- THAT WAS A BALANCE OF 29 MILLION. WE MIDDLED TO 5 MILLION OF THAT TO PROPERTY. S SO THERE IS FOUR MILLION DOLLARS REMAINING FROM OUR 2016 BOND PROGRAM. OUR 2019 CONSTRUCTION LEVY WE VOTERS VOTED ON $12 MILLION SIX YEAR CAPITAL PROJECTS LEAFERY, WE THROUGH INTEREST, I BELIEVE PACT FEES, STATE CONSTRUCTION ASSISTANCE THAT PROVIDED AT $32 MILLION, RIGHT NOW WE ARE ESTIMATING THE PROGRAM WILL COST U.S. 135 MILLION, WE HAVE THE CARSON ADDITION AND THE CORE ADDITION IS TO FINALIZE THE CORE ADDITION AT CARSON WILL BE COMPLETED TO THE NORTHWEST YEAR SO WE ARE ESTIMATING WE HAVE ABOUT 17 MILLION REMAINING IN THE CONSTRUCTION LEAFERY FUNDS. AND THEN AS WE'VE SHARED WITH OUR 2022 CONSTRUCTION LEVY THAT WAS 295 MILLION SIX YEAR CAPITAL PROJECT LEVY WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED $8 MILLION IN IMPACT FEES BECAUSE THE OTHER PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE GEARED TOWARD THESE PROJECTS AND SO RIGHT NOW THAT WILL PROVIDE AGAIN AN ADDITIONAL 8 MILLION. AND SO AND THE OTHER THING JUST A REMINDER THAT WE SHARED IN MARCH IS BECAUSE THOSE FUNDS COME TO US OVER SIX YEARS WE'RE COMING TO REFINE OUR CASH FLOW PLAN BECAUSE WE MOST LIKELY WILL NEED TO DO LIMITED GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND SALE TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO GET THOSE PROJECTS BUILT IN THE TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED, AND SO WE'RE WORKS ON THAT, WE BELIEVE THAT SALE IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO. SO I NOW THE BAR CHARTS ARE MUCH PRETTIER BUT I JUST HAD TO DO A LITTLE TALK TABLE TO SHOW YOU SOME ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION, SO JUST TO SUMMARIZE OUR ORIGINAL BALANCE FROM THE THREE PROGRAMS I MENTIONED, THE BOND PROGRAM WE HAD A BALANCE OF 29.4 MILLION, OUR CAPITAL LEVY PROGRAM 17.2 MILLION. OUR CAPITAL -- OUR 2022 CAPITAL LEVY PROGRAM 8.4 MR. AND MRS. MILLION SO WE HAVE ESTIMATED 55 MILLION, WE COMMITTED 21 MILLION-DOLLAR TO THE PARK 188 PROPERTY OR THE CADMAN PROPERTY. THERE WERE OTHER SOURCES WE USE FOR THAT AS WELL. THE ROSE HILL PROPERTY SALE, UNALLOCATED INTEREST BUT 21 MILLION OF THESE FUNDS WERE COMMITTED TO THAT? AND THEN THIS AUGUST WE. ED THE RAY PROPERTY THAT WAS ANOTHER 4.1 MILLION OZOTHAT LEAVES 4.3 MILLION IN OUR 2016 BOND PROGRAM, 17.2 IN OUR 2019 PROGRAM, AND 8.4 IN OUR 2022 PROGRAM. SO WE HAVE ABOUT $30 MILLION BALANCE. WE ARE HOLDING ABOUT ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR PROPERTY ACQUISITION RELATED TO PARKING AND THEN WE'RE RESERVING ABOUT 5.6 MILLION OF OUR STATE STATE CONSTRUCTION ASSISTANCE FUNDED TO PROVIDE FOR THE DOCTOR INTEREST COSTS OF THE LGL BONDS, THE PRINCIPLE CAN BE PAID BACK WITH LEVY PROCEEDS AND OUR BOND ADVISORY UNDERWRITER THEY CAN SELL BONDS AS A PREMIUM SO JUST PROVIDE DOLLARS TO OFFSET THOSE INTEREST COSTS BUT THERE'S APPROXIMATELY $5 MILLION OF POTENTIAL COSTS THERE. SO WE HAVE ABOUT $23 MILLION TO SUPPORT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT INFLATION, CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. WE KNOW THAT THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION HAS HAD SIGNIFICANT INFLATION OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IT IS LEVELING OFF BUT STILL TBD ON THOSE COSTS. AND THEN JUST OUR PREDESIGN FUTURE BOND PROGRAM AND JUST CONTINUING PLANNING AND PROPERTY ACQUISITION. SO ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT? ANY QUESTIONS JUST OVERALL? [04:05:01] I LOVE THIS PICTURE, SMILING TEACHERS AND STUDENTS AND SO . . . ST THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT OKAY, . >>> SO THAT'S OUR 2022 CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION LEVY UPDATE SO AS YOU KNOW ALWAYS MORE TO COME. AND I'LL KEEP THE BOARD UP DECIDE AS WE WORK THROUGH THAT INVESTIGATION PROCESS VIOLATION PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE COME BACK TO THE BOARD WITH AN UPDATED RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU'VE BEEN INFORMED ALONG THE WAY, THAT IT IT ISN'T TWO CONVERSATIONS BE THAT YOU ARE INFORMED ALONG THE WAY AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION AND THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION, SO SIRI I'LL HAND IT BACK TO YOU. >>> ALL RIGHT, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME THIS AFTERNOON BOTH BARBARA BRIAN AND JOHN, ALL OF YOU AND THE BOARD MEMBERS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? FOR IF GOOD OF THE ORDERS I'LL TOSS THAT OUT. IF NOT I'LL SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR FLEXIBILITY FOR GOING TO A FULL REMOTE BECAUSE THAT WAS A SHIFT AND IT APPEARS WE ARE GOING TO BE DONE SIGNIFICANTLY EARLY TODAY WHICH IS NOT A BAD THING AS WE ALL HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TO THE INTERNATIONAL MARKET THAT IS IN DOWNTOWN PARK OF REDMOND RIGHT NOWED THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON THERE NOW WITH REDMOND LIGHTS SO VERY FUN CELEBRATION, WE WERE THERE LAST NIGHT WATCHING THE DRUMMERS. THAT GOES ON ALL MONTH SO FEEL FREE TO GO CHECK IT OUT. >> SO WITH THAT ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? >> I THINK KIRK LAND IS HAVING A FESTIVAL TOO. >> NO, THEY'RE FUN TO SEE, IT'S GOOD TO BE OUTSIDE. AND WITH THAT -- ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE CAN -- CAN I ADJOURN OUR STUDY SESSION AT THIS POINT? SO OUR STUDY SESSION HAS ENDED, THANK YOU ALL * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.