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HIM GOOD AFTERNOON ORGANIST AT THE FEBRUARY 6, 2023 STUDY
SESSION. >> EXCELLENT, PLEASE LET ME CALL TO ORDER THE FEBRUARY 6, 2023 STUDY SESSION LET THE RECORD REFLECT FOREVER BOARD MEMBERS ARE HERE IN ONE BOARD MEMBER DIRECTOR CARLSON IS EXCUSE. WE ALSO CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE OUR STUDENT REPS HERE THIS EVENING AND THEY NOT BE ABLE TO
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ATTEND AND THEY SHOULD BE SHOWING UP SHORTLY.WITH THAT OUR TOPICS THIS EVENING ARE THE SCHOOL START TIMES, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK SINCE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR TO SORT OF CONTINUE THE WORK FOR PRIOR YEARS AND WE DO HAVE DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT SCOTT BEEBE HERE AND I WILL LET
DOCTOR HOLMAN LEADER PRODUCTION. >> THANK YOU TONIGHT IS A COMBINATION OF A SIGNIFICANT AND AMOUNT OF WORK AND REALLY APPRECIATE DE DEPUTY SUPERINTENT DEPUTY BEEBE TRANSITIONING INTO HIS ROLE IN LATE JULY AND BEING HANDED THE TASK OF DOING THE SCHOOL START TIME EFFORT SO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A FINAL RECOMMENDATION REALLY AT THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY IS A MONUMENTAL TASK. AS THE BOARD KNOWS THIS IS BEEN A TOPIC THAT HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA FOR YEARS.
THERE HAS BEEN SOME EFFORT RELATED TO THIS ANTEDATE WOULD NOT BEEN ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. AS THE BOARD KNOWS THIS REALLY WASN'T ABOUT EVALUATING THE RESEARCH AND THE DATA AROUND WHETHER OR NOT A LATER START TIME FOR ADOLESCENT YOUTH IS A BETTER MODEL THAN CURRENT. IT WAS REALLY ABOUT THE CONDITIONS AND VARIABLES THAT NEED TO JUST ACCOMPLISH THAT.
WHAT YOU WILL SEE TONIGHT IS REALLY A VERY THOROUGH OVERVIEW OF INFORMATION AND DATA THAT LED TO THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION THAT DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT BEEBE IN THE SCHOOL START TIME COMMITTEE HAS MOVED FORWARD. AS YOU KNOW THERE'S MANY VARIABLES WITH NOT A PERFECT RESULT BUT I'M NOT SURE ANY OF US ASSUME THAT A PERFECT RESULT WOULD COME OF THIS.
THIS REALLY DOES HELP UNDERSTAND A NUMBER OF THE VARIABLES AND HOW THE DATA WAS ANALYZED FOR THIS RECOMMENDATION.
WITH THAT, SCOTT I WILL HANDED TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU, BOARD I'M EXCITED TO SHARE THIS WORK WITH YOU YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF IT BEFORE BUT YOU'VE NOT SEEN A LOT AROUND THE DATA THAT WE COLLECTED AROUND THE SECOND THOUGHT EXCHANGE I DO SOME ANALYSIS THAT I WILL SHARE THAT LED INTO OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATION. JUST TO REITERATE THE WORK THAT WE ASSIGNED TO THIS COMMITTEE IS TWOFOLD TO MOVE THE HIGH SCHOOL START TIMES LATER THAN 8:00 O'CLOCK OR 8:00 O'CLOCK OR LATER, CONVERSATION OF THIS GROUP AS WELL AS THE COMMITTEE FELT LIKE 8:00 O'CLOCK WAS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE RESEARCH AND IT'S IN THAT LOWER TARGET WE SEEN A RECOMMENDATION AND MOVING A PRESCHOOL START TIME EARLIER IN THE DAY BECAUSE HER DISMISSING PRESCHOOL EARLY IN THE REGION THAT IS THE WORK THAT WE ADHERE TO THERE IS LOTS OF FEEDBACK IN THE EXCHANGE THAT THAT WASN'T THE RIGHT WORK FOR EVERYONE THAT WAS IN CHARGE WE GAVE THE SPECIFIC COMMITTEE. JUST SO YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS, WE ARE AT THE END OF THE COMMITTEE WORK AND NOW WERE MOVING INTO THE DECISION-MAKING AND PLANNING PHASE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
I THINK I SHOULD THE STUDIES IN THE BOARD MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. WE DID COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AFTER OUR DECEMBER MEETING AROUND TO DIFFERENT OPTIONS WHICH WE CALLED THEM OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO IT WAS APPARENT SQUARE INTO NEWSLETTERS THE FIRST WEEK OF JANUARY JANUARY 3, FOURTH AND FIFTH. THE THIRD AND THE FOURTH WE HAD ALMOST 1000 PARTICIPANTS IN THOSE TWO EVENTS WHICH IS A GREAT TURNOUT IN JANUARY 5 I DON'T WANT TO SAY WAS MORE IMPACTFUL BUT REALLY INTERESTING TO HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEMBERS ALL REPRESENTING FOUR DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES IN THE CONVERSATION THAT WE GOT TO HAVE THEY WERE THERE WITH US IN ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WAS THERE AND REALLY GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE SEE AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND THE IMPACT IN THE
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CHANGE IS REALLY INDIVIDUALIZED THEY BELIEVED THEY SUPPORTED THEIR VIEWPOINT AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE WORK MOVING FORWARD ANY CHANGE INCLUDING A NON- CHANGE IS GOING TO HAVE IMPACT THAT WILL BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT PLANNING.THE THOUGHT EXCHANGE WE DID TWO ROUNDS OF THAT THE FIRST IS TO RAISE AWARENESS THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE WAS A FIRST EXCHANGE, ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE WAS THE SECOND THE ONE THAT WE RAN FROM JUST UNDER DECEMBER TO JANUARY.
CIRCLED IN ORANGE SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE STRONG PARTICIPATION IN THE SECOND ROUND OVER 7000 PARENTS AND FAMILY MEMBERS I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH OVER 1500 STUDENTS PARTICIPATE WE DON'T TYPICALLY GET THAT RESPONSE I BLAME IT ON YOU WAS AROUND WANITA HIGH SCHOOL BUT THAT WAS AWESOME.
BECAUSE WE GOT KIDS TO ENGAGE WITHIN THE PERSPECTIVE AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE DATA WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN OURS WITH A FAIRLY DIFFERENT UNDER DECENT TURNOUT FROM STAFF MEMBERS ALSO INCUBATED IN MEMBERS DID NOT IDENTIFY THOSE CATEGORIES.
MINISTRY OF STAFF AND TEACHERS AND STAFF TOGETHER INTO ONE BECAUSE SO FEW OF MINISTERS THERE IT'S HARD TO INDIVIDUALLY DEFY THE GROUP. THERE WAS SOME FEEDBACK IN THE RESPONSE TO THE THOUGHT EXCHANGE THAT ONLY HIGH SCHOOL PARENTS ARE BEING SURVEYED THE SOMEWHAT PLAYED OUT WITH A REALLY STRONG CASE WITH ELEMENTARY ALSO THIS TOTALS MORE ON THE PARTICIPANTS WE HAD A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE THAT A PRESCHOOLER IN THE HIGHSCHOOLER. AGAIN REGIONALLY WAS FAIRLY WELL DISTRIBUTED WE HAD A NUMBER IN THE SECOND ROUND TENDED TO BE PEOPLE THAT WERE QUITE SURE THEY LISTED THE SCHOOL THEY WERE ASSOCIATED WITH BUT WE DID HAVE A NICE DISTRIBUTION SO ALL OF OUR REGIONS. WERE IN THE NEXT STEP THAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THE WORK THAT WE SET OUT IN HER FIRST STUDY SESSION, THAT IS ACCOMPLISHED AND WERE AT A POINT WHERE THE COMMITTEE HAS A RECOMMENDATION AND ARE PRESENTING FORMALLY YOU SEEN A DRAFT OF THE ALSO, I WANT TO SPEND TIME ON WHAT THE DATA ACTUALLY TOLD US AND WE HAD OVER 9000 PARTICIPANTS, WE HAD EIGHT THOUGHTS SHARED THAT WAS AN OPEN-ENDED FORMAT THAT WAS A LOT OF RANGE OF IDEAS WE HAD OVER 157,000 RATINGS.
THE THOUGHT EXCHANGE AFTER YOU ENTER YOUR THOUGHT OR YOU CAN SKIP THAT AND LOOK AT WHAT OTHERS HAVE WRITTEN AND RESPOND 1525 STARS ANYTHING OVER A 15 IS HIGH ENGAGEMENT IN HER SCORE WAS 19. OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THE DATA WE HAVE LOW ALIGNMENT WITHIN THE DATA WHAT WE SEE WHEN WE DIG INTO IT YOU WILL SEE A POLARIZATION. WHAT'S GREAT FOR ME MAY NOT BE GREAT FOR THE GUY NEXT TO ME. IT'S REALLY DEPENDED UPON THE INDIVIDUAL CONTEXT. IN SOME WAYS THAT'S WHAT WE ASK FOR WAS IMPACT ON YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
THE AI ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IT IS NOT AS SMART AS CHAT GBG OR WHAT'S THE NEW ONE, THE NEW ONE FROM GOOGLE RELEASED TODAY WERE ANNOUNCED TODAY. IT GENERATES KEYWORD THEMES, THE KEYWORD THEMES WERE REALLY BIG AND BROAD SO IF THE WORD SLEEP OCCURRED IN THE THOUGHT IT WAS CATEGORIZED WERE THEMED AS SLEEP WHICH REALLY DIDN'T TELL US A WHOLE LOT.
WHAT WAS INFORMATIVE IS ADI WILL DO SUMMARIES AND RECORD A RELEASE TO YOU. AI DOES AN OVERVIEW SUMMARY BASED ON THE THOUGHTS AND THE CATEGORIES AND THERE'S SOME INTERESTING THINGS THAT POP UP HERE.
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YOU WILL SEE SOME SUPPORT FOR INDIVIDUAL IDEAS WAS STARTING TO GET INTERESTING WHEN YOU DIG INTO THE THEMES YOU SEE THAT START TO SHOW UP. BETTER SLEEP WAS A KEYWORD AND FOR SOME FAMILIES OPTION ONE WAS A BETTER CHOICE AND SOME FAMILIES OPTION TWO WAS A BETTER CHOICE.THAT CARRIED THROUGH MOST OF THOSE.
I PUT THIS IN THE BOARD DOCUMENTS IF YOU WANT TO READ THESE SUMMARIES THAT ARE IN THERE FOR YOU.
YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THE WAY THE KEYWORD WORKED IT REALLY WASN'T GIVING US AS A COMMITTEE AWAY TO LOOK AT THAT AND SAY HERE'S WHAT WERE SEEING THE COMMUNITY OTHER THAN THE COMMUNITY IS THINKING THANKS IN OPPOSITION TO EACH OTHER.
IT DOESN'T FOR ALL OF THOSE KEYWORDS.
THE OTHER THING THOUGHT EXCHANGE DOES IS LOOK AT THE RATINGS OF DIFFERENT THEMES. THESE ARE THE AI GENERATED KEYWORD THEMES AND STAR SCORES ARE ASSIGNED TO THEM READING 1 Y OTHER PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE RANDOM, I THINK THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN RANDOM BUT SHOWN IDEAS OTHER DIFFERENT SCALE OF THINGS AND THEY GET TO RESPOND, MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM DID THE SURVEY ALSO SO WE SEEN THAT WHAT WE SAW IS VERY LITTLE ABILITY IN THE SCALE SO THE HIGHEST RATED WAS ASLEEP KEYWORD AND IT WAS 3.63.7. THE LOWEST RATED WOULD START EARLIER WHICH IS 3.5. WHAT THAT TELLS US PEOPLE RATED AT THE ENDS OF THE SCALE SO THERE WAS A POLARIZATION IN THE DATA THAT REQUESTED. AN OFFENSIVE RIGHT TERM.
WHAT WE DID AS A COMMITTEE AND I GOT TO SEE PART OF THIS THERE WERE 169 PAGES OF THEMES OR THOUGHTS OVER 8000 OF THEM THE SURVEY CLOSED ON MIDNIGHT OF JANUARY 10 OR COMMITTEE MEETING WAS JANUARY 12 SO I HAD A DAY TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT SO I WENT THROUGH AND MANUALLY THEMED THE TOP 20 PAGES RATING IN THE BOTTOM 20 PAGES RATING TO SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND THAT'LL HAPPEN. THIS IS A FREQUENCY ANALYSIS OF MY CUSTOM THEMES AND WHAT I TRIED TO DO IS NOT A POSITIVE OPTION ONE INSANE OPTION ONE IS THE BEST.
IT IS THE COMMENT MADE A POSITIVE REFERENCE TO IT COULD'VE BEEN OPTION ONE IS THE BEST.
AND THEN CONCERN WOULD BE EXPRESSED 7:40 A.M. IS WAY TOO EARLY FOR ELEMENTARY KIDS TO START SCHOOL SO I WOULD SEEM THAT AS A CONCERN, THOUGHTS CAN HAVE UP TO TWO THEMES NOT ALL OF THEM DID SOME WERE VERY SPECIFIC THIS IS GREAT FOR HOME I GET BETTER SLEEP. THE DISTRIBUTION WAS INTERESTING AND I KNOW THAT'S HARD TO READ. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE POLAR ANALYSIS. OPTION ONE CAME A VERY POSITIVE, POSITIVE SENTIMENTS TOWARDS OPTION ONE ALMOST A HUNDRED THOUGHTS ATTRIBUTED TO THE POSITIVE SENTIMENT.
OPTION TWO CAME OUT WAY LESS A LITTLE LESS THAN 400 SO WE HAD SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. THE OTHER PART THAT WAS INTERESTING YOU SEE FAIRLY STRONG SUPPORT FOR A CHANGE SO THIS ONE WAS GENERIC STATEMENT OF SUPPORTING THE CHANGE, THE GREEN BAR WAS A STATEMENT AROUND BETTER TEEN SLEEP, BETTER TEEN HEALTH, I REMEMBER MY COMMENTS OF A CHILD GETTING BETTER SLEEP, THOSE WHO BE SEEN THAT WAY. I REALLY GO TO MISCELLANEOUS COMMENTS COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO THE TOPIC SO ALL LEAVE THOSE IN THEIR OR SPECIFIC TO FIX ALL THE BUSES.
I WASN'T SURE WHERE TO PUT IT BUT I KNEW IS THERE SO I PUT IT IN THEIR. ACTIVITIES IMPACT IS A COMMON THEME THAT WAS IN PART FROM THE RUMORS THAT WERE CIRCULATING I THINK THERE WERE OTHERS WE WOULD'VE HAD THAT BIG OF A TURN
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IF WE MOVED START TIMES TO IMPACT LIABILITY TO PARTICIPATE AFTER SCHOOL AND EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL.THAT WAS AN INTERESTING ANALYSIS.
WHAT I WAS REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT THAT TOOK ME FOREVER BY THE WAY BUT I WAS SICK ALL WEEK AND I NEEDED SOMETHING TO DO SO I WENT THROUGH 8000 OF THE COMMENTS PLUS I FELT GUILTY IF YOU WERE SMACK IN THE MIDDLE YOUR COMMENT WASN'T REALLY BEING CONSIDERED ON THE WHOLE THING SO LAST WEEK WHEN I WAS ON THAT DISTRIBUTION LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, IT STILL SHOWED SUPPORT SO THE GREEN BAR IS STILL BETTER TEEN HEALTH BETTER TEEN SLEEP, SUPPORT CHANGE WAS ALSO STILL IN THE TOP FREQUENCY BUT THE POSITIVE OPTION ONE AND POSITIVE OPTION TO WHICH WOULD BE PURPLE THE LAST BRICK RED WERE CLOSER SO THE GAP NARROWED SO WHAT IF AN INTERESTING CONCERN FOR OPTION TWO ALSO IMPROVES SO THE POSITIVE IN THE CONCERN WERE PRETTY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND THE CONCERN FOR OPTION ONE WAS WAY LESS AND THAT WAS 8000 I THINK 170 I DID NOT WIND UP DOING I WASN'T SURE WHERE TO PUT THAT SOME OF THEM HAD INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE IN THOSE
DID NOT GET THEMED EITHER. >> SOME SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED AT
ME. >> THIS IS IN THE FINAL REPORT I SENT AN E-MAIL TO THE COMMITTEE. I DON'T THINK IT CHANGES CONVERSATION OTHER THAN IT LOOKED DIFFERENT THAN THAT DID THE NIGHT WITH A POLAR OPPOSITE. WHAT I THANK YOU SEE THE POLARIZATION. FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT WAS GREAT OPTION TO 740 START I COULD DROP MY KID AT SCHOOL BEFORE SCHOOL CHILDCARE IN THE SAME COMMENT I MIGHT'VE SAID I NEED MORE AFTER SCHOOL CHILDCARE BUT I LIKE THE BEST BECAUSE OF OUR.
FOR OTHER FAMILIES THAT WAS A NONSTARTER OF A 7:40 A.M. START TIME AND THE ACTIVITIES IMPACT WAS FREQUENTLY MENTIONED BECAUSE THE 340 DISMISSAL FOR HIGH SCHOOL WAS PROBLEMATIC FOR SOME IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PUSHY LEADER ALSO PEOPLE PICKED UP ON THAT AND WAS GOING HAVE IMPACT ON AFTERSCHOOL OPTIONS ALTHOUGH THERE WERE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE WHO DIDN'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT SCHOOL WOULD BE LATER. THEN I WANTED TO LOOK AT THE SAME EXACT CHART BUT I HAD TO DO IN EXCEL TO LOOK AT THE BRIDGES FOR GROUPS SO I RELATED OUT AND THE COLORS WILL STAY CONSISTENT, THIS IS THE SAME CHART IS A BAR CHART INSTEAD OF COLUMN CHART PREVIOUSLY SOME INTERESTING THINGS START TO POP UP.
IN THE PARENT GROUP, THAT IS THE ORIGINAL THE SECOND-HIGHEST FREQUENCY WAS A CONCERN MENTIONED AROUND OPTION TWO WHICH IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE POSITIVE FOR OPTION ONE.
PEOPLE PICKED UP ON THE BETTER TEEN SLEEP IN BETTER TEEN HEALTH THAT WAS FREQUENT, PRETTY STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE ORANGE BAR PRETTY STRONG POSITIVE SUPPORT FOR OPTION TWO MOST OF THE COMMENTS CAME ABOUT BUSSING FROM THE PARENTS, LOTS OF COMMENTS ABOUT WORK SCHEDULE IMPACTING CHILDCARE CONCERNS THAT WAS NOT UNIQUE TO EITHER ONE THOSE ARE PREVALENT IN OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO. WEIGH LESS CONCERNS WERE DIRECT CONCERNS FOR OPTION ONE MOST OF THE CONCERN OF OPTION ONE WAS A LATE START ELEMENTARY. THAT IS PARENTS AND COMMUNITY I LUMP THEM TOGETHER. THIS IS STAFF AND ADMIN.
>> IT IS THE DISMISSAL THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
>> IN SOME CASES IT IS ALSO THE START THERE ARE FAMILIES THAT
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HAVE TO BE AT WORK BEFORE 9:20 A.M.>> ALWAYS GIVES A LATE START STATUS QUO SO IS NOT A CHANGE FROM CURRENT IT WAS CHANGED FIVE YEARS AGO OR SO RIGHT NOW STATUS
QUO. >> THIS WAS STAFF AND ADMIN AND IT WAS ONLY GROUP THAT HAD OPTION TO TO OPTION ONE IN TERMS OF FREQUENCY OF THOUGHT. NOT SURPRISINGLY THE WORK SCHEDULE IMPACT WAS A BIGGER QUESTION HERE WE HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS FROM STAFF AROUND BEFORE SCHOOL AND AFTERSCHOOL TIME THE WAY GETS TO SHOOTING IF YOUR 920 START ELEMENTARY SCHOOL YOU DO STAFF MEETINGS BEFORE AND IF YOUR 740 YOU NOT DOING STAFF MEETINGS AT 6:40 A.M. IN THE MORNING.
SO YOU SEE A DIFFERENCE IN THE STAFF ADMIN AND THERE IS A PERCEPTION AMONG STAFF AT THE 9:20 A.M. START IN THE 3:50 P.M.
THERE IS CONCERN THAT THAT'S TOO LATE FOR ELEMENTARY STUDENTS ALSO. IT IS NOT INCONSISTENT YOU SEE THIS ON THE FINAL REPORT WITH THE CHART NEIGHBORING DISTRICT START IN TIME DOES NOT CONSIST OF OTHER DISTRICTS ARE DOING BUT IT WAS A CHANGE AND IS STILL IN THE PROCESS.
THIS IS INTERESTING TO COMPARE, WE SAW THAT IN THE 2018 - 19 DATA THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP DROVE WHAT THE PREFERENCE WAS.
THIS WAS A STUDENT STRONG RECOGNITION AT LEAST IN FREQUENCY OF THE THOUGHTS SOME KIDS WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN EXTRA HOUR IN THE MORNING BUT THE ACTIVITIES IMPACT AND INTERESTINGLY THEIR HEISE PREFER NO CHANGE AND THAT WAS REALLY ALMOST DIRECTLY TIED TO THE ACTIVITY IMPACT AND THE WORK SCHEDULES SO WE HAD A LOT OF KIDS WITH AFTERSCHOOL JOBS WONDERING THAT'S COULD BE ONE LESS HOUR I GET THE AFTERNOON FOR WORK SO WE GOTTA WORK AROUND THAT. THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN AND I THINK IT'S VALID. ALL WE ARE DOING IS SHIFTING THE TIME, THE WORKLOAD. WERE NOT TALKING WORKLOAD THE WORKLOAD SHIFTS WITH THAT SO KIDS HAD CONCERNS YOUR PUSHING MY HOMEWORK LATER IN THE EVENING BECAUSE I'M GETTING ALL THE SAME HOMEWORK. THAT WAS EXPRESSED FREQUENTLY, LESS RESPONSE TO THE OPTIONS OPTION ONE CAME UP POSITIVE AND OPTION TO BUY A GREATER MARGIN OF 114 COMMENTS.
I LOOKED AT THE STARS SCORES AGAIN TO SEE IF THERE IS A DIFFERENT DISTRIBUTION AND THERE REALLY WASN'T THESE ARE STARS SCORES ACCORDING TO THE THEMES THAT I SENT IN YOU SEE THE SAME THING THE POLARIZATION SO ONE PERSON LIKES AN IDEA IN THE VERY NEXT PERSON SEES THE SAME IDEA AND IT'S THE WORST IDEA EVER.
THAT IS VALID BECAUSE IT'S VERY INDIVIDUAL IMPACT, THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN THE BROADER COMMUNITY IN THE FOUR FAMILIES IN A COMMUNITY INFORMATION I THAT WHAT IS IMPACTFUL FOR ONE WON'T HAVE THE SAME IMPACT ON ANOTHER PART OF THE WORK OF THE DISTRICT TO BE IN THOUGHTFUL OF THE TIME LINING IN PLANNING WILL BE THOUGHTFUL OF HOW WE RESPOND TO THE CONCERN FROM FAMILIES. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DATA OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO ARE PRETTY EQUAL.
SO THERE IS PREFERENCE FOR ONE OR THE OTHER EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS WIDESPREAD SUPPORT SO THERE IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GROUP HERE THIS IS THE PREFERRED NO CHANGE ONLY 200 COMMENTS OFF FROM THE OTHER TWO. QUESTIONS? I ONLY HAVE TWO MORE SLIDES AND THEN WE HAVE LOTS OF TIME TO
TALK. >> I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.
MIDDLE SCHOOL ANY CONCERNS ABOUT MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT DID COME OUT? IN BOTH WAYS THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT MOVING LATER IN MOVING EARLIER THAT WAS AN INDIVIDUAL FAMILY PREFERENCE JUSTIFIED BASED ON THE CONTEXT OF THE FAMILY.
THERE WERE OTHERS THAT HAD COMMENTS AROUND I THOUGHT WE
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TALKED ABOUT THAT THAT OF HIGH SCHOOL DISMISSES AFTER ELEMENTARY MIDDLE SCHOOL HIGH SCHOOL KIDS ARE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE CHILDCARE. THAT WAS RATIONALE FOR SOME FAMILIES FOR EXPRESSING REFERENCE.ANOTHER FAMILY NEXT TO THEM WITH ELEMENTARY KIDDO IN THE CURRENT SCHEDULE HIGH SCHOOL DISMISSAL OPTION ONE HIGH SCHOOL DISMISSAL BEFORE ELEMENTARY. THAT WOULD DICTATE THEIR
PREFERENCE THERE. >> WE BOTH HAD KIDS TAKING CARE OF YOUNGER SIBLINGS SEEN MUCH OF THAT REALLY PLAYED OUT FROM A VOLUME STANDPOINT IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE IT FROM WHAT
BUT NOT AS DRAMATIC AND THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE THAT WAS CHILDCARE CONCERN THAT WAS ONE OF THEM. WE HAD 20 STUDENTS EXPRESSED CONCERNS WERE THEIR THOUGHTS THE PARENTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS 292 THAT WOULD'VE LUMPED IN CHILDCARE AND SIBLINGS AND OTHER SIBLINGS IN A FEW CHANGES TO THE SERVICE ALL NEED DEFINED CARE.
>> AFTERSCHOOL JOBS DIDN'T PLAY OUT MUCH.
>> JOBS PLAYED OUT WITH SOME STUDENTS.
FIFTYISH PREMORBID CONCERNED WITH THE PAIR WAS DROP OFF TIME, ELEMENTARY PARTICULAR. THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE.
WHAT WE HAD TO THINK OF THE COMMITTEE.
NEITHER OPTION IS OVERWHELMINGLY PREFERRED BUT ONE OPTION GENERATED CONCERN. PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE MORE DRAMATIC CHANGE IN THE OPTION ONE ELEMENTARY SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT FOR THE FIRST AID GROUP IN THE CURRENT STATE 850 AND THEY WOULD MOVE TO A 40 NOT EVERY SCHOOL WILL CHANGE WITH TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND START SO IT IS NOT A CHANGE FOR ALL MIDDLE SCHOOL. IT IS A CHANGE OBVIOUSLY FOR ALL HIGH SCHOOLS. THERE WAS A THREAD IN THE COMMENTS IN WASHINGTON HIGH SCHOOL WERE ALREADY AT 8:00 O'CLOCK WHY DO WE HAVE TO CHANGE TO SO THAT CAME OUT TO THE PARENTS IN THE STUDENTS. VALID FOR THAT PARTICULAR CONTEXT. THE VARIABILITY I DIDN'T EXPECT TO SEE THE POSITIVE OPTION AS STRONGLY AS IT DID, THAT WAS FEEDBACK THAT I GOT FOR MANY ELEMENTARY AND ARE PRESENTED TO THE DLT GROUPS. I WASN'T UNSURPRISING ABOUT WORKING PACKS THERE WILL BE WORK TO DO AROUND HOW WE SCHEDULE AND WHAT FLEXIBILITY THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT.
WE ARE MORE TEACHERS IN A MINISTRY TO SUBDUE HIGH SCHOOL.
I'M JUST WONDERING. >> ABOUT 26%.
>> A VERY PRECISE ANSWER. >> DID YOU LOOK AT THEM SEPARATELY OF DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SCHOOLS?
>> I DID NOT THE SOFTWARE I ASKED THEM I ASKED SOME SORT OF DEMOGRAPHIC FACTORS THAT WOULD LET ME DO THAT THEY WERE QUESTIONS LIKE ARE YOU ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE OR HIGH SCHOOL BUT THE DATA THOUGHT EXCHANGE TO GIVE ME THAT BECAUSE IT NEEDED INDIVIDUALLY IDENTIFY YOU.
>> AND I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE I SAW THIS CORRECT WHAT IS THE DISTRIBUTION BY FAMILIES BY GRADE LEVEL WHETHER THE STUDENTS WERE IN ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE OR
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HIGH SCHOOL AND I THINK THE LOWEST OF THE THREE RESPONSE RATE BUT IT WASN'T WAY OFF, RIGHT?>> YEAH, THAT'S THE ISSUE. >> OKAY AND THAT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE. GREAT FROM HER P OUR PARENTS.
>> I WAS EXPECTED IT TO BE MORE THAN THE FIRST ROUND BUT I WAS NOT EXPECTING AS MANY AS WE HAD GREAT QUESTIONS.
>> DO WE HAVE FAMILIES WITH MULTIPLE ENTRIES?
>> THE SOFTWARE DOES CHECK FOR THAT THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS THAT ARE TOO SIMILAR AND AI WILL SAY THIS PERSON ALREADY SUBMITTED THIS COMMENT AND IT GETS FLAGGED FOR MODERATION SO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS GET MODERATED.
>> WITHOUT THE COMMENTS VOTING WITHOUT?
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION I'LL HAVE TO ASK.
>> I'M NOT A COMPUTER WHIZ. >> I THANK YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE A LOT MORE INVOLVED IN DOING IT TWO OR THREE TIMES TO CHANGE
ALGORITHM. >> THAT WAS ANOTHER THING I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT AND I MET WITH THEM THURSDAY BECAUSE I WAS UNABLE TO LET IT GO. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RATINGS, HIGH AND LOW IS NOT THOUSANDS OF RATINGS.
LIKE 20 OR 25. THOSE THOUGHTS BECAUSE WE HAD BROAD PARTICIPATION. THE 20 OR 25 PEOPLE ARE SEEING THE THOUGHT BEFORE REPLACES IT WITH ANOTHER THOUGHT.
TO BE REALLY HARD TO GAME THE SYSTEM IN THAT SENSE.
>> GIVE ANY IDEA ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF RESPONDED TO LANGUAGE, SPOKE PRIMARY LANGUAGE AT HOME AND HOW THAT BROKE OUT.
>> I DO HAVE THE ORIGINALLY THERE WERE 16 LANGUAGES IN THE SAMPLE TO VARYING DEGREES THERE WERE MORE SPANISH TRANSLATIONS AND OTHERS ALTHOUGH SEVERAL SIMPLIFIED WAS THE NEXT LEVEL.
THERE WAS ONE HEBREW THAT I ACTUALLY FOUND WHAT I WAS READING THROUGH THE DID GET TRANSLATED TO TRANSLATE IT MYSELF SO THAT WILL BE INCLUDED ALSO.
>> WE DO HAVE A RANGE, I WILL CONFIRM BUT I THINK IT WAS 16.
>> I DO NEED TO REPORT THE SAME NUMBER OF HIGH SCHOOL AND
ELEMENTARY STAFF? >> SECONDARY.
>> I WAS REPORTING A HIGH SCHOOL VERSUS ELEMENTARY.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS QUESTIONING.
>> A COUPLE MORE WE REALLY DID FROM A COMMITTEE PERSPECTIVE I WAS NOT A VOTING MEMBER BUT MOST HAD A UNANIMOUS, EVERYBODY BELIEVED THE SAME THING WE HAD ONE COMMITTEE MEMBER THAT FELT STRONGLY OPTION TO WAS THE BETTER OF THE TWO IDEAS AND THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE FOR HIS FAMILY IT WAS AND HAD A VERY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE HE WAS AN IMMIGRANT TO THE COUNTRY SO WE HAD A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON SCHOOLING IN GENERAL.
WHAT HE WAS ABLE TO DO WAS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CONVERSATION AND HONOR THAT THE GROUP THOUGHT THROUGH HIS PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.
THE COMMITTEE IS VERY COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT THOSE PERSPECTIVES IN THE COMMUNITY WHILE THEY MAY BE IN OPPOSITION ARE VALID AND I DON'T HOW TO HONOR THAT THE PROCESS QUITE YET OTHER THAN TO SAY YOU ARE RIGHT OPTION ONE IS BETTER FOR YOUR FAMILY THEN OPTION TO BECAUSE THAT WORKS FOR YOUR CONTEXT.
HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD COLLECTIVELY BECOMES A QUESTION.
>> AND ASK ONE QUESTION BEFORE YOU MOVE ON.
DID THE COMMITTEE HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A CHILD WITHIN THE SYSTEM WHAT WOULD YOU TAKE BE IN REGARDS TO
THOSE OPTIONS. >> WE HAD ONE MEMBER THAT NO LONGER HAD IN THE SYSTEM THE HEALTH ISSUE THE COMMITTEE AND ADOLESCENT HEALTH AND WHEN YOU READ THE RESEARCH.
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IT REALLY DOES SPEAK TO THOSE OTHER THIRD ENTRANCE CIRCUMSTANCES TO THE LACK OF SLEEP WE WERE TALKING IN HOW SOCIAL MEDIA IS NOT GREAT FOR TEENAGERS.HOWEVER, STARTING SCHOOL AT 730 WE KNOW IS A TRIPPING FACTOR TO THAT PROBLEM. THE COMMITTEE WAS VERY IN TOUCH WITH AND I THINK HE SAW THAT IN THE DATA BECAUSE THAT WAS THE HIGHEST ARE ONE OF THE HIGHEST ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT WAS AN IMPACT OF LATE START. I DO WANT TO SAY WE HAD STRONG SUPPORT THINK YOU CAN SEE THAT BUT IT WAS NOT UNIVERSALLY STRONG THERE IS A VERY LARGE GROUP OF COMMENTS THAT PREFER NO CHANGE AT ALL I HAVE IT WORKING FOR ME NOW.
I THINK THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE FOR MANY FAMILIES TO.
THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE WAS OPTION ONE.
IN PART BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE FELT LIKE IT MET THE SCOPE OF WORK. IT WAS A COMPROMISE IN AN IDEAL WORLD AND I PUT THIS IN MY REPORT AND YOU WOULD START ALL SCHOOLS 830, 8:45 A.M. IN THE PHYSICAL REALITY OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES FROM THE COMMITTEE OF FISCAL AND OPERATION FEASIBILITY REALLY MET THAT IT WAS NOT AN OPTION FOR US.
WE HAD TO LOOK FOR WHAT COULD WE DO AND WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST PALATABLE POTENTIALLY MOVING FORWARD.
THERE WAS CONVERSATION IN A PREVIOUS MEETINGS AROUND THIS OPTION IS IN A BIG DISRUPT EVERYTHING CHANGE SO WE MIGHT NEED MORE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPLEMENT THIS IN THE TIMEFRAME IN WHICH WE'VE GIVEN OURSELVES. THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION OPTION ONE. NEXT STEPS PROVIDE A COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW OF THE RECOMMENDATION SO YOU HAVE THAT TONIGHT BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THAT IN YOUR FORM THAT DOCTOR HOME AND SENT OUT SUNDAY, YESTERDAY IN DRAFT FORM SHE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT. I'M HAPPY TO INCLUDE SOME REVISIONS I KNOW SOME OF THE CHARTS WERE WRONG IT WAS DUPLICATE SO I FIXED THAT. IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU THINK ARE MISSING AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND FURTHER AND HAPPY TO DO SO ON THAT. THE NEXT STEPS TO BE FINALIZING THE RECOMMENDATION AND COMMUNICATE TO STAKEHOLDERS.
THE THOUGHT EXCHANGE DATA THEY DO NICE REPORTING SO PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. HOW DOES ALL GENERATED AND POSTED ON THE WEBSITE SO PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT THE CUSTOM THEMES AND I'LL MAKE A LITTLE VIDEO TO SHOW THEM HOW TO DO THAT.
BUT YOU CAN CLICK AND READ THROUGH ALL THE COMMENTS HER HERSELF. IT TOOK ME ABOUT FOUR DAYS TO DO THAT. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO HIDE ANYTHING IN THIS PROCESS. PART OF THE WORK NOW THE WORK UP TO THIS POINT IS GETTING US TO RECOMMENDATION WE NEED TO DO WORK. I PUT A DATE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THAT I PUT A DATE OF FEBRUARY WE NEED TO DO WORK AS A DISTRICT TO LOOK AT IMPLEMENTATION ANALYSIS SO CALLING PRINCIPAL FROM I SCHOOL, ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL SAY HERE IS THE CHANGE WHAT IS THE WORK THAT GOES INTO THAT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR END DO SOME ANALYSIS OF WHETHER THAT'S REALISTIC. WE DON'T WANT TO IMPOSE THAT WITHOUT FEEDBACK FROM THE BUILDINGS AROUND THE ON FORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES ALTHOUGH WE DO LOOK AT IT AND WHAT WERE REALLY DOING IS SHIFTING WERE NOT CHANGING THE SCHOOL DAY OR WHAT HAPPENS WITHIN IT WERE NOT MOVING FROM SIX PERIODS TO SEVEN. YOUR SEVEN PERIODS DOWN TO AFFORD A BLOCK SCHEDULE THAT KIND OF THING.
IT USED TO START AT 730 NOW IT'S GOING TO START AT 830.
THERE IS SOME WORK THAT HAS TO GO INTO THE AND ANSWER STUDENT QUESTIONS AROUND THAT. WE WANT TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT FEBRUARY. TOWARDS THE END OF FEBRUARY COMMUNICATE THE FINAL DECISION AND TIMELINE THAT WOULD EITHER BEFALL AT 23, 24. THAT IS THE CURRENT TARGET AND
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IF WE GET INTO THIS PROCESS AND SEE IF WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THIS AND THAT'S A HUGE THING WE MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK OUT FURTHER.ALTHOUGH I THINK THE LONGER THE STRETCH IS THE HARDER IT WILL
BE. >> BE VERY THOUGHTFUL HOW WE DEVELOP COMMUNICATION BECAUSE IT IS GOOD TO BE A CHANGE FOR FOLKS THE SOONER WE CAN GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION ON THAT SPECIFIC CHANGE IS GOING TO BE THE BETTER OFF THE FAMILY WILL BE LATE AUGUST WHEN WE START SCHOOL AGAIN SO THEY'VE HAD TIME TO LOOK FOR CHILDCARE OPTIONS IF THAT'S AN ISSUE FOR THEM TIME TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEIR EMPLOYER, IF I SHIFTED MY TIME 20 MINUTES THIS WAY I COULD DROP MY KID OFF.
THAT HAS TO BE PART OF THE PLANNING FOR EARLY MARCH.
THAT IS THE PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU.
>> AT THIS POINT WE HAVE QUESTIONS.
MCN DIRECTOR HAS RAISED HIS H HAND.
>> SOME SMALL AND SOME LARGER. CERTAINLY THE LARGER ONE.
THIS IS FOR DOCTOR HOME AND. THE ULTIMATE DECISION ON THIS ON WHETHER SCHOOLS START TIME SHIFTS OR DOWNSHIFT I VIEW AS ONE DELEGATED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT.
I WILL MAKE SURE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
I THINK OUR JOB IS ABOARD IS TO PARTICIPATE AND MAKE SURE THERE IS AN APPROPRIATE PROCESS, THE DECISION ENSURES, CORRECT?
>> ULTIMATELY YES I DO BELIEVE THAT I ALSO TAKEN SUPPORT FOR THE BOARD TO FEEL COMFORTABLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THERE'S A POTENTIAL THE COMMUNITY COULD COME TO THE BOARD WITH CONCERNS I THINK IT WAS ABOUT LAYING OUT A THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF HOW WE ARRIVED AT THIS RECOMMENDATION. THAT'S REALLY WHAT TONIGHT IS ABOUT TO HEAR QUESTIONS AND ANY CONCERNS.
>> A FOLLOW-UP ON THAT, THERE IS NO LEGAL OBLIGATION FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE CERTAIN TIMES, CORRECT?
>> CORRECT. >> I HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS
BUT I WILL HOLD THOSE. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING ONCE YOU WENT TO THE REST OF THE THOUGHTS AND OPTION TO KINDA CAUGHT UP TO TERMS OF OPTION ONE IN THE COUNT.
IN REFLECTING BACK ON LISTENING ON THE CONVERSATIONS FROM THE COUNTY. I REMEMBER A SIGNIFICANT RECOMMENDING OPTION ONE WAS A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO WHICH HAS CHANGED.
I'M CURIOUS HOW IS THAT BEING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WITH
THE RECOMMENDATION. >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
WHAT WE SAW INITIALLY AND WHY I DID THE POLAR IS BECAUSE I SAW A LOT OF OPTION ONE AS RATED HIGHER THAN OPTION TO AND I THINK WE STILL SAW THAT BECAUSE WE GOT TO THE MIDDLE THAT WERE OPTION TO CAUGHT UP SO THE RATINGS WERE LOWER AND I THINK WE WERE STILL VALID IN THE CONVERSATION WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CONCERN LEVEL FOR OPTION TWO IS STILL CREATED THE POLARIZATION.
IT STILL CREATED HOW MANY PEOPLE WITH A BIGGER IMPACT IN HOW BIGGER CHANGE. WAS DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT FOR OPTION ONE EVEN PEOPLE THAT PREFERRED OPTION TO.
IT WAS THE SECOND OPTION FOR WHATEVER REASON, THERE WERE MANY OF THEM ON BOTH SIDES THAT POLARIZED THE SAMPLE.
I THINK THAT IS WHY YOU SAW HIGHER-RATED COMMENTS WERE LEANING TOWARDS OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO AND THAT'S WHAT CAUGHT UP THOSE ARE LOWER RATED OVERALL START SCORES.
>> IT'S AGAIN THE POLARIZATION OF THE PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE THAT I THINK. I AGREE THE FINAL DID LOOK
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DIFFERENT AND I PROBABLY FEEL SIMILARLY IF THAT CONCERN WASN'T SO DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT TO. BUT THAT WAS PART OF THAT CONVERSATION. IT WAS JUST A FEELING OPTION TOTHE BIG, BIG IMPACT BUT FAIR. >> I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE ANALYSIS MAY BE BECAUSE I DON'T DO NUMBERS, OKAY.
BUT SERIOUSLY FROM A COMMUNICATION STANDPOINT I LIKE THE FACT IN THE ABSTRACT THE FINAL SENTENCE SET OPTION NUMBER ONE IS A PREFERENCE. MAYBE A SEPARATE PARAGRAPH, I SKIPPED OVER THE FIRST TIME I DID GO BACK AND WHY ALL THIS IN PAGE NINE OR 29 WHATEVER WAS. I SAY THAT BASED ON THE COMMENTS WE WERE GETTING FROM PARENTS DURING COVID AND WE WOULD HAVE A MULTIPAGE REPORT COME TO THEM ABOUT HIS DECISION AND IT TOOK SO LONG TO GET TO THE CLIMAX OF WHODUNIT.
I'M WONDERING IN THAT SENTENCE TO SEE THE END RESULT SUPPORTING FOR THIS GO TO PAGE S. THIS COULD BE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO DO WHAT AGO SHOULD BE AN ISSUE THIS COULD BE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO SAY WHY AND THEN I WANT TO GO THROUGH.
FROM A COMMUNICATION STANDPOINT AND TRIED TO FIGURE OUT.
IT'S SO SURFACED I UNDERSTAND AND SO NON- SUBSTANTIVE REASON BUT IS SO EMOTIONAL IN JUST A THOUGHT.
>> I CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THE ABSTRACT.
>> ALSO FROM A MITIGATION STANDPOINT AND MAYBE THIS ISN'T ANY NEWS AT ALL BUT ESPECIALLY WITH COMMUNICATING WITH STUDENTS I AGREE WITH AND UNDERSTAND THE BETTER TEEN HEALTH AND SLEEP WAS CONSISTENTLY THE HIGHEST RELATED THING.
STUDENTS ARE GOING TO TWO NEW RIGHT OUT OF THAT IS THE PRIMARY THING. THE GENERAL CONSENSUS NEGATIVE CONSENSUS ABOUT ANY CHANGE AT ALL IN THE REASONS STUDENTS WERE PREFERRING NO CHANGE IN THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD, THEY JUST FELT I SMILED LIFE, I'M GOING TO SUCK IT UP AND DEAL WITH IT.
THEY DID NOT TEND TO HAVE A VERY OUTSIDE LOOKING IN PERSPECTIVE THIS WOULD BE BETTER FOR ME AND MY PEERS MENTAL HEALTH.
THEY DIDN'T REALLY SEEM TO CARE ABOUT THE MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT OF IT WAS MORE LIKE A MINISTER DOWN, SUCK IT UP AND DEAL WITH IT. SO WHEN WERE TALKING TO STUDENTS ONE IT HAS TO BE MORE FOCUSED ON THE BEGINNING AND NOT THE END BECAUSE ALL THE NEGATIVE PRESS AROUND THIS BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN RALLYING AGAINST IT.
BEEN VERY FOCUSED ON THE IDEA ENDING SCHOOL AT FORT OR CLOSE TO IT. AND ALSO WE CAN'T COME INSANE WERE TRYING TO BE YOUR SAVIORS AND BETTER YOUR MENTAL HEALTH BECAUSE THEY WILL TUNE YOU WRITE OUT.
>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT IS DONE TO GET US TO THIS POINT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK AND I THANK YOU PRESENTED SOMEWHAT CLEARLY THERE IS NO ONE ANSWER RESOLVES AND THERE ISN'T NECESSARILY ONE HUGELY STRONG ONE IN YOUR BALANCING MULTIPLE OPINIONS AND MULTIPLE EXPERIENCES. WHICH IS THE REALITY.
THERE IS INTERESTING WORK OUT THERE NOW THAT LOOKS AT HOW WE THINK ABOUT FUTURE GENERATIONS AND THINK OF OUR SUSTAINABILITY CONCEPT AND CONVERSATION THAT WE HELD ON SATURDAY WHICH IS MAKE SURE YOUR DECISIONS NOW DON'T HARM FOR THE FUTURE AND WHAT GOES ON FROM THERE. I THINK IT'S THE SAME PIECE OF HOW YOU BALANCE. COMMENTS I THINK THERE IS A PIECE AS WE REACH OUT ON ANY OF THOSE WILL HAPPENS WITH ACTIVITIES AND WE NEED TO BE CLEAR WITHOUT PEACE OF HOW THAT GETS ADDRESSED. ARE THERE SCHOOL DISTRICTS DOING IT ALREADY, I HAVE FAITH WE CAN DO IT BUT I DO RECOGNIZE THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT. AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU PULL OFF A BAND-AID WHICH I THINK OPTION TWO IF YOU THINK LONG-TERM SORT
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OF PEACE, ALTHOUGH THE 7:40 A.M. START TIME IS A REALLY HARD ONE AND WE HAVE NO OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN H OUR AREA.I THINK THAT IS OUR PART. I THINK ACTIVITIES ARE RECORD DAISY AS FAR AS STUDENTS I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO CREATE FLEXIBLE HIGH SCHOOL SCHEDULES, THAT POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME FREEDOM FOR STUDENTS TO START LATE, LEAVE EARLY WITH A CREDIT IN THE WAY TO DO THAT AND CREATE THAT.
I KNOW THE OPTION EXIST IN DIFFERENT WAYS BUT START THINKING ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL FOLKS ABILITY SCHEDULE SO YOU CAN ADDRESS THOSE THINGS IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
BY HAVING A PROCESS THAT APPEARS THAT YOU WENT THROUGH A LOT OF WAYS TO PULL THINGS IN AND THINK ABOUT THOSE IN APPRECIATE T THAT GOING FORWARD. I THINK THOSE OF YOU HIT EVERY CHALLENGE ON THE HEAD AND YOU DID A GOOD JOB.
THAT'S WHY HAD THE ONE QUESTION WAS A QUESTION ASKED.
YOU DON'T HAVE KIDS YET, RIGHT? WHAT WOULD YOU THINK THE BEST THING WOULD BE FOR STUDENTS. I LAND ON THE PLACE, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WOULD SAY HIGH SCHOOL STARTING LATER MAKE SENSE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WERE AT IN THE REST OF THAT SHOULD NOT START BEFORE EIGHT AND THEN WE WORK THE FINANCIAL COMPONENT BUT I DO THINK THOSE ARE YOUR CHALLENGES.
I THINK MITIGATING AFTERSCHOOL ACTIVITIES IS GOING TO BE THE ONE THING TO REALLY THINK ABOUT AND HOW WE ADDRESSED CHILDCARE PIECES AND SUPPORT THOSE OF US WE CAN TO THE WAYS WE DO THOSE.
A PRESCIENT THE PROCESS AND THE CONVERSATION.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE WERE COVID YOU GO REMOTE OR DO YOU DON'T THESE ARE BIG DECISIONS IMPACT PEOPLE'S LIVES IN THE IMPACT PEOPLE'S LIVES. BEING CONSCIOUS AND THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT, WE APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHT ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION AND HAVING TO THINK THROUGH THAT OF ANY IMPLEMENTATION OF WHAT
THAT MEANS GOING FORWARD. >> REAL QUICK AGAIN I APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU WENT TO THE PROCESS.
CAN WE GET OUR PUBLIC TO BUY INTO IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? I THANK YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TRANSPARENCY THAT YOU HAVE THE WHOLE PROCESS. THE PRESIDENT BROUGHT UP ONE POINT TOWARDS SUSTAINABILITY, BY HAVING US WILL START LATER AS I HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE LESS ENERGY CONSUMED BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TURN THE FURNACE IS ON LATER, I KNOW THAT'S ABSURD TO BE FRANK IN YOUR OWN HOME YOU TEND TO HAVE THE HEAT TAKEN UNTIL HALF
HOUR FOREVER BUT HE GETS A. >> WE COULD DO SOME RESEARCH BUT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION I HONESTLY HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT
IT BUT MAYBE. >> THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN GETTING TO SIT AND LISTEN TO THE COMMITTEE WAS REALLY EYE-OPENING THE AMOUNT OF LEARNING IN THIS PROCESS AND HOW MUCH TIME THE MEMBERS SPENT ON B AND SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IT WAS REALLY IMPRESSIVE AND I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT. I RECALL ONE COMMITTEE MEMBER SAYING THIS AND IT STUCK WITH ME.
HE KEEPS POPPING UP INTO MY BRAIN NO MATTER WHICH OPTION YOU END UP CHOOSING YOUR GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE UPSET AND THIS IS CAN BE VERY BIG SYSTEMIC CHANGE FOR DISTRICT NOBODY IS GOING TO WANT TO TOUCH START TIMES AGAIN FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS ONCE THIS HAPPENS. IF YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IF YOU ARE REALLY DOING THIS FOR THE RESEARCH ARE WE REALLY FOLLOWING THE RESEARCH TO START EARLIER? THAT, KEEPS POPPING INTO MY HEAD I THINK THERE IS VALIDITY IN THE
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STATEMENT AND IT WAS MENTIONED RIPPING OFF THE BAND-AID VERSUS SOMETHING MORE PALATABLE AND HONEST ANANIAS MAKE THAT DECISION, I WANT TO SHARE THAT BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE THOUGHT ABOUT IN TERMS OF LONGEVITY IN SCHOOL STARTTIME. >> THE SAME COMMITTEE MEMBER THAT HAD A DIFFERENT OPINION BUT ALSO BELIEVING IN THE WORK IN THE CONVERSATION SHE WILL CHOKE HE IS COME TO SOME OF THESE MEETINGS. A SUPER NICE GUY.
PETE I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THAT.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THE CONVERSATION FROM THE COMMITTEE WAS THE 740 START TIME POLARIZED OPTION.
WE TRIED AT THE END TO PUSH THAT TO SEE IF IT WAS CLOSER TO 8:00 O'CLOCK BUT THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO PUSH HIGH SCHOOL TO 3:50 P.M. WHICH HONESTLY 3:4O BE A BIG CONCERN FOR AFTERSCHOOL FEDEX THE LATEST IN TIME IN THE CONFERENCE.
THAT WAS ANOTHER CONVERSATION IN WHEN YOU READ THAT IS A LOT OF REFERENCE OF CIRCUMSTANCES IN DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHY SCHOOL DISTRICTS MAY OR MAY NOT ADDRESS THE SIMPLE.
SO MANY OF HER KIDS PARTICIPATE IN AFTERSCHOOL ACTIVITIES BOTH MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL IT TOOK US AS A COMMITTEE A WHILE TO RECONCILE THAT. WHILE WE ARE AN INSTITUTION THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE WHAT CREATE A SENSE OF BELONGING AND A CONNECTION TO SCHOOL FOR MANY KIDS.
THAT ALSO PLAYED INTO OPTION ONE THE 3:40 P.M. DISMISSAL TIME IT WAS GOING TO CAUSE AN IMPACT AND WAS GOING TO BE FELT.
THE LEADER THEY DISMISS LESS OPPORTUNITY.
IT IS ALL OF THAT. I REALLY APPRECIATED.
>> VERY ELOQUENTLY HE DID NOT CHANGE HIS POSITION BUT SUPPORTED BECAUSE HE BELIEVED IN THE PROCESS AND A LOT OF THAT
WAS A LEARNING AND DISCUSSION. >> THE BULLET POINTS.
>> THE NEXT BULLET POINT FOR THE NEXT STEP SEQUENTIAL TREATMENT QUESTION IS. WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR DECISION TO BE MADE OR DO YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW AND RELATE TO THAT, WHAT IS THE PROCESS CUSTOMER.
>> I MESSAGED A FEW OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS HERE TONIGHT TO SAY WE MAY WANT TO PUT SOMETHING OUT TOMORROW BECAUSE WERE PUBLICLY TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW SO JUST TO PUT OUT THERE WERE AHEAD OF THE MESSAGE AND SAY HERE'S WHAT WERE DOING NEXT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO OUR KEY STAKEHOLDERS THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WILL BE DOING IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS TO MAKE SURE CHANGE OR NO CHANGE, HERE'S THE RECOMMENDATION HOW DO WE MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS THAT'S WHY WE TIMELINE AROUND THE FULL ANNOUNCEMENT THIS MONTH BUT IT WILL BE THE END OF THIS MONTH.
>> I MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE THEY SAID THERE WAS DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN SUBGROUPS OR STAKEHOLDER GROUPS IN DIFFERENT INTEREST FOR EMPLOYEES DISTRICT VERSUS COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR FAMILY
MEMBERS. >> TO THAT IN ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH IS AN IMPACT ON STAFF IN THE LAST TIME WE MADE THROUGH THESE CHANGES ASSOCIATIONS DEFINED AT THE RIGHT PLACE TO LAND. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SET WORK SCHEDULES FOR STAFF IN ITS BEST ARRIVED AT THROUGH CONVERSATION AND COLLABORATION. WE DO THAT WORK WITH THEM AND THERE IS ADDITIONAL INTEREST, FIGURING THOSE PIECES OUT WILL
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TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BUT WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.>> CAN I ASKED ONE MORE QUESTION.
>> YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAD OPTION A.
>> THE MAJORITY OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WILL NOT BE SHIFTING TIME? I KNOW THAT'S PART OF THAT LIMITATION BUT I ASSUME STILL SOME LEVEL ON THE DISCUSSION HOW MANY TIMES IN IMPACT GOING FROM 920 START 2840 START OR VICE VERSA IS AN IMPACT SO TO POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACT OR POSSIBLY DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MANY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT HOW MANY IN EACH GROUP.
I DON'T OTHER WE ANNOUNCE THAT YET.
>> IT'S FAIR TO SAY SOME SCHOOLS WILL CHANGE.
>> SUMMER LOBBYING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
>> MY VERY SELF-SERVING QUESTION IS THE LAST ONE I WILL ASK.
THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAS A PRESCHOOL AND IT DOES THAT MEAN IF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HOUSES A PRESCHOOL WILL THEY START AT 840. THE WAY I READ THAT THAT'S WHAT
OPTION ONE IS. >> I CANNOT CONFIRM ORGANIZED.
HONESTLY I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW THE LIST OF SCHOOLS BUT I
COULDN'T TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY. >> WHY HAVE THE PRESCHOOL WOMEN REALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT MUCH I ALMOST WANT ANOTHER COMPONENT OF SHIFTING A LOT BETTER MORE USABLE.
>> WHY HAVE THE PRESCHOOL START AT THE SAME TIME.
>> IT IS THE BUSSING TO CONSOLIDATE ROUTING AND THAT'S HOW THE PRESCHOOL GOT FIT BACK IN.
THE LAST ITERATION WERE FORMED PRESCHOOL MOVING BACK INTO ONE OF THE TRANSPORTATION TEARS COMPLICATED THE EQUATION.
THAT IS A LOT OF IT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY SHARE BUSES BUT FINDING THE CAPACITY OF DRIVERS WITH VOLUNTEERS IS HOW THE PLACE
PACKAGE. >> DOCTOR HOLMAN DIDIO?
>> HE STOLE SOME OF MY THUNDER BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TALKED MUCH ABOUT PRESCHOOL IN A ROW PRESCHOOL AT THE TOP OF MY PAPER. THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PART TO THIS WORK AS WELL. OUR PRESCHOOL TEAM HAS BEEN ASKING US TO REVISIT THIS BECAUSE THEY WERE SEEN THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS. THREE -YEAR-OLDS FALLING ASLEEP AT THE END OF THE DAY THOSE ARE REAL THINGS THEY WERE DEALING WITH SO THE FACT WE WERE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REINCORPORATE OUR PRESCHOOL INTO A MORE TYPICAL SCHEDULE WITH WITH A BIG PART OF THIS SO I'M GLAD WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT.
>> JUST A FOLLOW-UP WITH WHAT HE SAID 8:40 P.M. THERE IS NO EQUITY B AND 9:20 A.M. PRESCHOOL START TIME?
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> DIRECTOR STUART.
>> A QUESTION REGARDING RESEARCH I WENT BACK TO A CURIOSITY I WAS ON THE SALES ECONOMIC THAT NOT THE SCIENCE THAT BUT I WENT BACK AND DID MY RESEARCH AND I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING ANYTHING YOUNGER THAN HIGH SCHOOL. TO BE QUITE FRANK IS STEM FROM THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS AND TO BE QUITE FRANK ONCE THEY PUBLISH OR PUT THEIR FOOT IN THE GROUND EVERYONE BACKS OFF AND RARELY YOU'LL SEE SOMEONE COME IN THE ROOM UNLESS A GENERALLY GREAT RESEARCH. SO I DIDN'T FIND ANY TO BE QUITE FRANK, NOT SAYING THERE'S NOT BUT I DID NOT FIND ANY.
>> DIRECTOR TROY. EVAN JAVID AND OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE BEING THE STUDENT IN THE
ROOM. >> I HAVE DONE MY BEST TO TRY AND SEE BOTH SIDES ON THIS ISSUE BECAUSE WITHIN STUDENT INTERACTIONS THERE IS A FAIR BIT OF CONTEMPT AND FRUSTRATION ON
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ALL THREE SIDES OF IT. THE REALITY IS YOU'RE GOING TO UPSET PEOPLE AND I KNOW THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.I SAID EARLIER I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T COME OUT THIS FROM WE ARE SAVING YOU FROM YOURSELVES ANGLE BECAUSE TO ME ALL THAT'S GOING TO DO IS FRUSTRATE PEOPLE MORE ESPECIALLY HIGH SCHOOL AGE WHEN IT'S ALL ABOUT PROVING YOU COULD BE INDEPENDENT. CENTERING AROUND BEING ABLE TO EAT BREAKFAST AND NOT HAVING TO SPEND MONEY ON COFFEE EVERY MORNING. THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS TO SPIN THAT IN A REALLY POSITIVE LIGHT BECAUSE THE TEEN HEALTH DOESN'T RESONATE VERY WELL IT DOES WITH SOME PEOPLE BUT THOSE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPEASED. THE PEOPLE IT RESONATES WITH A READING OF THE FACTS AND FIGURES AND INFORMATION IN THE AGREED SEARCH TRYING TO BRING IN THE REST OF THE GROUPS THAT ARE LESS HAPPY WITH IT SO THAT IS GOING IN WITH THE SAVING YOU FROM THEMSELVES I'M WORRIED IT'S GOING TO COME OFF AND UPSET OR
PEENTERED MORE PEOPLE. >> THANK YOU.
ONE OTHER QUESTION ON ELEMENTARY MUSIC.
WHAT ONE POINT HE USED TO BE THEY WENT UP TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND PRACTICE THERE IN THE MORNINGS ARE NOT SURE IF THEY STILL DO THAT BUT IF WE HAVE A SHIFT LIKE THIS THAT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE. I KNOW YOU HAVE COMMITTEE WORKING ON SO I'M JUST TOSSING OUT.
>> YOU TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH WE HAVE A COMMUNITY ENTRY COMMITTEE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
WILL WE GET ABOARD BRIEF YOU WILL RECEIVE AN UPDATE.
>> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS BEING LOOKED AT AND CONSIDER? OKAY. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? DIRECTOR HOLMAN OR
SUPERINTENDENT HOLMAN. >> I ALSO WANT TO VOICE DIRECTOR CARLSON PROVIDED COMMENTS SUPPORTING THE EFFORTS AND APPRECIATE THE PROCESS AND UNDERSTAND THE RECOMMENDATION COMING FORWARD THIS EVENING AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK SCOTT FOR THE EFFORT YOU HEARD HIM TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT HE DID FEE MEAN 8000 COMMENTS THAT IS THE DEDICATION OF TIME BUT ALSO EVERY TIME SOMEONE REACHED OUT SCOTT GAVE THEM A VERY THOROUGH RESPECT FOR RESPONSE HE RESPECTED PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCES, THEIR TRUTH, I THINK THAT'S A WORD USED EARLIER TODAY AND ISN'T ABOUT TELLING SOMEONE THEIR TRUTH IS WRONG BUT BEING EMPATHETIC TO THAT EVEN FOR GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE.
NOT ONLY DO I APPRECIATE THE PROCESSES SCOTT LED I APPRECIATE HOW HE LED THIS AND I THINK THAT ALIGNS WITH HOW WE WANT TO ENGAGE WITH STAKEHOLDERS IN GENERAL AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE THOROUGHNESS OF THIS RECOMMENDATION.
>> THANK YOU. WITH THAT THIS IS OUR ONLY ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. WE WILL ADJOURN OUR STUDY SESSION A LITTLE
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