Sep 09, 2023 September 9, 2023 Extended Study Session - 8:00 AM

[1. Call to order]

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>> GOOD MORNING. I WOULD LIKE THE CALL TO ORDER THE SEPTEMBER 9, 2023, EXTENDED STUDY SESSION.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT ALL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AT 8:00 A.M. ON SATURDAY MORNING. ONE SECOND.

SORRY. WE'RE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL

[1. Technology and Network Systems Update for Board Members]

WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WHILE WE DID THAT.

[2. Policy Update: GC-10 Digital and Social Media Conduct of Board Members]

DR. HOLMEN? >> YEAH, AND SO AS WE WERE THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE BEST POSITION THE BOARD TO NOT JUST BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OPMA, BUT ACTUALLY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BE RESPONSIVE TO OPMA SHOULD THERE BE A REQUEST FOR RECORDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE KNOW THAT RECORDS REQUESTS ARE INCREASING. EVERY YEAR THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS AND THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT ARE REQUESTED INCREASE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE POSITIONED WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD TO RESPOND TO THAT AS WELL. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS WORK WAS ABOUT IS TO HELP GET US INTO A PLACE THAT IS RESPONSIVE BUT ALSO AS WE THINK ABOUT SUCCESSION PLANNING, KNOWING THAT WE JUST HAD ONE BOARD MEMBER TRANSITION OUT, A NEW BOARD MEMBER TRANSITION IN, AND IT'S QUITE AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS MANY OF THE HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS, COMMUNICATIONS FROM THAT DIRECTOR DISTRICT ARE AVAILABLE, THAT'S JUST REALLY DIFFICULT. IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY, BECAUSE WE SHOULD HAVE SYSTEMS IN PLACE SO THAT INFORMATION TRANSITIONS AS EASILY AS POSSIBLE.

AND SO WE'RE PUTTING SOME OF THESE THINGS IN PLACE SO THAT THERE'S CONTINUITY OF INFORMATION AND EXPERIENCE FOR THAT POSITION, BUT ALSO THOSE THAT WE'RE SERVING.

SO THAT'S WHAT THESE PIECES ARE ABOUT.

AND SO AS WE ARE THINKING ABOUT COMING ONLINE FOR BOARD MEMBERS WITH DISTRICT-PROVIDED CELL PHONES.

I REACHED OUT TO OUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO JUST GET THEIR ADVISEMENT AROUND POLICY. I WORKED WITH THEM OTHER THE LAST FEW WEEKS. AS WE WERE WORKING THROUGH, THAT THEY SAID, YOU HAVE GOOD LANGUAGE AROUND LAPTOP AND NETWORK STORAGE AND COME STORAGE.

I SAID, WE DON'T REALLY. WE HAVE AN AU P, BUT THAT DOESN'T GET TO THE LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY THAT THEY WERE REFERRING TO. THEIR ADVICE WAS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS FOR CELL PHONES, YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST SPEAK TO THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF STORAGE AND ACCESS.

THE SUN IS PRETTY BRIGHT. >> [INAUDIBLE]

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. [LAUGHTER] AND SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHAT'S THE BEST PLACE? DO WE CREATE A NEW POLICY FOR THESE THINGS? OR DO WE LOOK AT THE BOARD'S POLICIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE AND ADD TO THEM? SO LEAH AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND FELT LIKE THE RECENT DIGITAL AND SOCIAL MEDIA CONDUCT POLICY WAS THE BEST PLACE TO JUST INCORPORATE THIS LANGUAGE AS WELL. SO IN BOARD DOCS, YOU'LL SEE A FULL DRAFT OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'LL DISCUSS, THE PROPOSED UPDATE TO THE TITLE IS TECHNOLOGY USE STORAGE, AND DIGITAL AND SOCIAL MEDIA CONDUCT OF BOARD MEMBERS.

SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND PULL UP THE POLICY.

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YOUR -- >> [INAUDIBLE]

>> FAIR ENOUGH. >> [INAUDIBLE]

>> SO I THINK AS YOU DO A READ OF IT, THE INTENT IS TO JUST PUT PARAMETERS AROUND SPECIFIC USE OF CELL PHONES, USE OF LAPTOPS, WHEN AND HOW, JUST SO THERE IS CLARITY.

SO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? BECAUSE THIS IS DRAFT BOARD POLICY. THESE WOULD BE RULES THAT YOU'RE ADOPTING FOR YOURSELF. AND SO IT'S BROUGHT HERE FOR

DISCUSSION. >> [INAUDIBLE]

>> I BELIEVE THE INTENT OF THAT IS TO SAY THAT BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE TEAMS APP DOWNLOADED ON THEIR PHONE AND ON, NOT TO PROVIDE IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED CLARITY,

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A CLEARER STATEMENT THERE. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

[LAUGHTER]

>> YOU SAID YOU HAD A LARGER QUESTION?

>> YEAH. YES.

IT IS ON. SO WE'RE -- HANG ON A SECOND.

OKAY. WHAT IS... FIRST OF ALL, IT IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO HAVE ANOTHER DEVICE, A CELL PHONE IN PARTICULAR. I USE MY PHONE A LOT FOR MY PERSONAL STUFF. IT'S NOT MY PERSONAL PHONE.

A PHONE BELONGING TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT I WORK FOR.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS: I ALWAYS USE -- I MAKE SURE I USE THE DISTRICT OUTLOOK. I THINK THE INTEREST IS ENSURING THAT EVERYTHING WE SEND IS CAPTURED ON THE DISTRICT NETWORK FOR RETENTION REASONS. IF I AM USING MY PERSONAL PHONE USING THE OUTLOOK EXCHANGE, HOW IS THAT... HOW IS THAT A PRO

PROBLEM? >> SO IS YOUR QUESTION --

>> THIS IS VERY EXPLICIT. GOING FORWARD WE ARE ALL AGREEING WE WILL NOT BE DOING THAT, AND I WILL THEN BE TAKING OUT MY DISTRICT OUTLOOK OFF OF PI PERSONAL PHONE BASED ON THE

POLICY HERE. >> THAT IS ONE PROPOSAL, YES.

>> WELL, THAT IS THE PROPOSAL. >> YES.

>> AND I GUESS IF THAT'S WHAT WE ALL AGREE TO, FINE.

I JUST WONDER WHAT IS THAT ACCOMPLISHING? WHAT IS THAT ACCOMPLISHING? WHAT IS... IF EVERYTHING IS BEING LOGGED, IF... I APPRECIATE IF I AM UNITING PI PERSONAL PHONE TO SEND TEXT MESSAGES FOR DISTRICT BUSINESS, THAT IS NOT

BEING LOGGED. >> CORRECT.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD ALL MAKE A PRACTICE OF NOT DOING. BUT USING OTHER DEVICES THAT HAVE OUTLOOK WHEN THERE IS SOME SORT OF WEB-BASED THING THAT'S LOGGING IN OUR NETWORK, THAT DOESN'T STRIKE ME AS MUCH OF A PROBLEM. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT THAT

INTO WORDS. >> SO IF IT'S WEB-BASED FROM A

DIFFERENT COMPONENT, RIGHT? >> YEAH.

>> SO IF THE INFORMATION IS IN THE CLOUD AND IT'S BEING SENT AND ACCESSED FROM THE CLOUD AND THAT CLOUD IS THE DISTRICT'S...

IN THE DISTRICT'S OWNERSHIP, IT'S THE SAME THING, WHETHER IT'S A DISTRICT DEVICE OR A PERSONAL DEVICE, BECAUSE IT'S STILL NOT COMING FROM YOUR... BEING SENT OR ARCHIVED IN YOUR

PERSONAL INFORMATION. >> RIGHT.

I THINK I WILL BE A MORE EFFECTIVE BOARD MEMBER IF I CAN USE A VARIETY OF DEVICES, AS LONG AS IT'S ALL BEING CAPTURED AND LOGGED, TO ACCESS CLO CLOUD-BASED CONTENT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> UH-HUH.

>> I THINK THE NUANCE AROUND THAT IS IF YOU ARE USING A PERSONAL CELL PHONE DEVICE TO ACCESS YOUR DISTRICT E-MAIL, SAY DURING A BOARD MEETING, AND THEN YOU HAVE A QUESTION AND YOU

GOOGLE SOMETHING ON YOUR PHONE. >> UH-HUH.

>> SOMEBODY REQUESTS TO KNOW WHAT BOARD MEMBERS WERE GOOGLING ON THEIR DEVICES, YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY THEN LOSE ACCESS TO YOUR PERSONAL DEVICE DURING THE TIME TO TRY TO FIGURE -- TO FULFILL THAT PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST.

SO THEN IT'S A... I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID IS THE INCONVENIENCE OF HAVING PERSONAL DEVICES TAKEN AWAY.

BUT THEN THERE IS ALSO THE... THERE ARE LINES IN HERE ABOUT NOT DELETING YOUR SEARCH HISTORY, NOT DELETING YOUR CALL HISTORY ON YOUR DEVICE, YOUR DISTRICT DEVICE, BECAUSE TECHNICALLY ALL OF THOSE NEED TO BE... ARE CONSIDERED RECORDS IN

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WOULD T TERABYTES OF DATA. >> [INAUDIBLE]

>> YEP. >> UH-HUH.

>> YEP. >> SO I GUESS MY QUESTION, ERIC, WOULD BE, THE INCONVENIENCE, I UNDERSTAND IT'S CARRYING MULTIPLE DEVICES. I ALSO UNDERSTAND BEING ABLE TO ACCESS YOUR E-MAIL FROM DIFFERENT DEVICES.

ALL OF THAT IS STILL CAPTURED, BUT THEN YOU WOULD STILL POTENTIALLY HAVE TEXT MESSAGES AND CALLS, SO YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO HAVE THAT SECOND DEVICE ANYWAY.

>> I MIGHT GET OVER IT. LOOK, THIS IS NEW TECHNOLOGY.

IT'S SCARY AND I DON'T WANT TO DO IT.

I'M SURE IT WILL BE FINE. >> I AGREE, IT'S INCONVENIENT FOR EVERYBODY. I DON'T WANT TO CARRY ANOTHER PHONE AROUND WITH ME. TO ME PERSONALLY, IT WOULD BE A BIGGER INCONVENIENCE TO LOSE MY PERSONAL PHONE FOR ANY AMOUNT OF

TIME. >> OKAY.

>> A COUPLE OF THINGS. I WANTED TO HAVE THIS ON THE RECORDING. HOW MUCH ARE WE EXPECTING TO SET UP ALL THESE ACCOUNTS, THE THEEXPONENT ACCOUNTS AND DEVICE? IN THESE BUDGET-TIGHT TIMES, IT SEEMS A BIT MUCH.

WE'RE ADDING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM SOME OF THE BUDGET PERHAPS. DO YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING? IT'S NEGLIGIBLE IN COMPARISON TO THE OVERALL SCHEME, BUT IN TRYING TO BE AS FRUGAL AS POSSIBLE, IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE

BIT ODD. >> EACH PHONE PLAN IS $30 A

MONTH. >> OKAY.

>> AND THE PHONES... >> THOSE ARE FREE WITH THE

ACCOUNT SETUP. >> OKAY.

HOW OFTEN HAVE WE HAD OUR DEVICES OR OUR ACCOUNTS OR OUR E-MAILS FOID IN THE PAST BY ANYONE? I MEAN, I DON'T RECALL IN TEN YEARS MINE HAVING BEEN REQUESTED. PERHAPS YOU WENT AND SEARCHED WITHOUT ME KNOWING IT. I DON'T KNOW.

>> YEAH. SO WHEN THERE IS A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, YOU KNOW, OUR TEAM HAS ACCESS TO EVERY... ALL E-MAIL ACCOUNTS. SO THEY'RE DOING THOSE SEARCHES

AND PROVIDING RECORDS. >> BUT WOULDN'T I HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED IF MY REPRESENT HAD BEEN SEARCHED?

>> NO, NO. SO I WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE TEAM TO TELL ME HOW MANY TIMES SPECIFIC BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED OVER THE LAST X NUMBER OF YEARS.

>> I UNDERSTAND IT'S A DESIRE TO PREVENT FUTURE PROBLEMS. I QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE CREATING AN ANIMAL THAT WE DON'T NEED TO CREATE, A RULE WE DON'T NEED TO CREATE.

I COULD BE WRONG. IT WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST TIME.

BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S TRYING TO DO HURRICANE PREVENTION IN OKLAHOMA. YOU DON'T NEED IT.

>> ARE YOU PROPOSING THAT WE DON'T BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE

LAW? >> NO, I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE DON'T BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.

>> COULD YOU CLARIFY IT? >> THAT'S A RATHER CRUDE WAY OF PUTTING MY QUESTION. I WAS NOT SUGGESTING THAT WHATSOEVER. I WAS SUGGESTING THAT... I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE NEED, WHY WE CREATED THE NEED.

WE HAVE NOT HAD CELL PHONES FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG, NEVER AN ISSUE. PEOPLE THAT KNOW US WILL BE CALLING OUR OLE CELL CELL PHONE NUMBERS, TESTING OUR OLD CELL PHONE NUMBERS. NOW THE E-MAIL ADDRESS MIGRATES OVER THAT. DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.

THAT WILL BE A CINCH, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE CREATING A

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I DON'T THINK THAT'S AVOIDING COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.

IT'S AN INTRUSION. >> I'M POSING THIS QUESTION TO ALL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS, AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR A RESPONSE.

IT'S JUST A REFLECTION OF YOUR OWN PRACTICES.

AND THE QUESTION WOULD BE: FOR HOWEVER LONG YOU'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, IF IT'S BEEN MORE OR LESS THAN SEVEN YEARS, FOR HOW LONG LOCK YOU'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, DO YOU MAINTAIN ALL BOARD TEXT RELATED MESSAGES FOR SEVEN YEARS BACK ON YOUR PERSONAL DEVICES AND STORED SOMEWHERE THAT'S ACCESSIBLE FOR THE TEAM TO ACCESS WHEN THERE IS A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST? BECAUSE THAT IS ACTUALLY A LEGAL REQUIREMENT.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE OBLIGATED TO DO.

SO HAVING A DISTRICT PHONE IS TRYING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT REQUIREMENT, AND SO I WOULD -- I WOULD PAUSE THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CREATE OBSTACLES FOR SOME FUTURE UNFORESEEABLE EVENT THAT MIGHT NEVER HAPPEN.

WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST TRYING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.

LISA, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? >> YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT ERIC WAS TALKING ABOUT.

THE PHONE MAKES SENSE, AND, YES, CARRYING TWO DEVICES WILL BE A LITTLE ANNOYING, BUT I GET THAT. ALSO, UNDER THE LAPTOP TEXT, WITH NOT USING THE DISTRICT LAPTOP FOR BOARD MEMBERS, MUST USE THE LAPTOP FOR ALL BOARD AND DISTRICT BUSINESS AND BOARD MEMBERS CANNOT USE PERSONAL DEVICES TO CONDUCTED BOARD BUSINESS, GETTING CLARITY ON, THAT I UNDERSTAND IN THE CONTEXT OF A BOARD MEETING, BUT, YES, PROBABLY SIMILAR TO ERIC, I DON'T... I REALLY DON'T WANT TO CARRY TWO LAPTOPS.

AND SO BEING ABLE TO ACCESS BOARD E-MAIL OR BEING ABLE TO SEE THAT COME TRUE FROM MY PERSONAL PRACTICE IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND ECHOING THAT IT'S STILL GOING THROUGH THE DISTRICT, SO FROM A RECORD REQUEST, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT WOULD MATTER WHETHER I'M SENDING FROM OUTLOOK FROM A PERSONAL LAPTOP OR FROM THE DISTRICT LAPTOP.

EVEN LIKE WEB SEARCH HISTORY, I HAVE A SEPARATE PROFILE IN EDGE THAT I CAN ACCESS ANYWHERE THAT SAVES THAT HISTORY, LIKE THAT CAN GET SAVED TO THE CLOUD, TOO. SO IN A BOARD MEETING, I WOULD NOT DO THAT. I ONLY HAVE THIS ONE LAPTOP WITH ME HERE TODAY, BUT, YEAH, JUST MAYBE GETTING A LITTLE WITH IT MORE CLARITY ON WHAT'S THE INTENT WITH THE LAPTOPS AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT I'M IN COMPLIANCE.

ANOTHER PRACTICE THAT I HAVE IS LIKE FORWARDING BOARD MEETING ADVICE AND SO ON TO MY WORK ACCOUNT SO THAT MY WORK CALENDAR GETS LOGGED AND I'M NOT CLEAR FROM THIS POLICY WHETHER THAT WOULD BE CONDUCTING DISTRICT OR BOARD BUSINESS ON A PERSONAL DEVICE. IT SEEMS A LITTLE AMBIGUOUS.

I THINK I HAVE THE INTENT, WHICH IS THAT AS I'M COMMUNICATING AS A BOARD MEMBER, THAT SHOULD BE IN THE DISTRICT'S CLOUD, IF YOU WILL, OR ACCESSIBLE TO THE DISTRICT, BUT JUST MAYBE GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY SO THAT THERE IS NO CONFUSION OVER, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE PLACES OVER WHETHER IT'S IN LINE WITH THE INTENTS BUT MAYBE WITH THE POLICY AS STATED RIGHT NOW.

HOPEFULLY THAT MAKES SENSE. >> DOES... I BELIEVE WHAT THIS POLICY AS IT READS TODAY WOULDN'T ALLOW FORWARDING TO WORK E-MAIL AND PERSONAL E-MAIL, BECAUSE YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY THEN CREATING A RECORD ON YOUR WORK ACCOUNT, BECAUSE THAT REALLY IS BOARD BUSINESS. SO I THINK THAT'S HOW IT READS TODAY. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE DISCUSSING.

>> YES, IF THAT'S THE CASE, LIKE I HAVE WORK-AROUNDS.

I THINK IT WOULD BE FINE FOR ME TO CREATE A BLOCK IN MY WORK CALENDAR THAT'S CALLED "STUFF" WHICH WOULD ACCOMPLISH THE PURPOSE OF, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY NOT SCHEDULING A MEETING OVER SOMETHING THAT I HAVE COMMITTED TO DO FOR THE BOARD BUT WITHOUT IT BEING VISIBLY OR, YEAH, YES. SO JUST GETTING CLARITY THERE WOULD BE HELPFUL. ONE OTHER THING I WILL ADD TO AS A NEW BOARD MEMBER IS THAT I THINK THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION DURING ON BOARDING THAT'S LIKE VERY MUCH AROUND.

LIKE WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SORT OF OVERALL POLICIES AND SO ON, BUT GETTING VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW TO SHOW UP, YOU KNOW, LIKE

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>> I THINK IT'S BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF YOUR APPOINTMENT, BUT NORMALLY THE BOARD BOOT CAMP, WHERE YOU DO THE OPMA TRAINING, THEY GO THROUGH A LOT OF EXAMPLES AND STUFF WHICH WILL BE HELPFUL, BUT YOU WILL ALREADY KNOW IT ALL BY THEN.

DID YOU HAVE A RESPONSE OR DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING?

>> I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING. I REALLY NEED THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE BOARD MEETING ON MY WORK CALENDAR AND SOMEBODY ELSE

I WORK WITH. >> SIRI?

>> RIGHT NOW I'M ACCESSING WORD DOCS THROUGH MY PHONE, BUT IT'S ALL SAVED AND TAKEN CARE OF. SAME AS THE CALENDAR.

I AM NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE FORWARDING OF A CALENDAR INVITE TO YOUR WORK CAM DER, THAT THAT IS SOMETHING IN VIOLATION OF A PUBLIC RECORDS ACCOUNT, BECAUSE THAT REALLY IS INFORMATIONAL AND

OFTENTIMES THAT DOESN'T MATTER. >> SO OPMA ISN'T ABOUT... THERE IS NO RULE IN OPMA THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T USE A PERSONAL ACCOUNT.

IT'S ONCE YOU USE A PERSONAL ACCOUNT, A PERSONAL ACCOUNT IS ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT'S ACCESS.

ONCE YOU HAVE DONE THAT, YOU THEN HAVE CREATED A RECORD THAT IS NOW ACCESSIBLE THROUGH OPMA. SO FOR WHAT WE SAY TO OUR STAFF IS IF YOU'RE USING YOUR PERSONAL E-MAIL FOR WORK BUSINESS, THEN YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO YOUR PERSONAL E-MAIL IF THERE IS A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.

THAT'S TRUE FOR ME. THAT'S TRUE FOR TEACHERS, ANYONE. SO THAT REALLY IS -- IT'S NOT THAT IT'S ILLEGAL TO USE A PERSONAL ACCOUNT.

IT JUST CREATES A PERSONAL IMPACT.

>> RIGHT. SO WHERE I WOULD START IS I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE DOING THE SHIFT IN BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE CELL PHONE COMPONENT. I THINK THERE ARE A VARIETY OF PIECES AROUND THAT. I THINK HAVING A PHONE NUMBER THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THIS BOARD POSITION AS OPPOSED TO MY PERSONAL CELL IS VITAL. BECAUSE NOW IT GOES WITH WHOEVER COMES AGAIN INTO THE POSITION. SO IT CREATES A CONTINUITY.

I THINK THAT'S A KEY COMPONENT. THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR MANY ELECTED BOARDS AT THIS POINT TO HAVE CELL PHONES FOR INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE OF THE NEED TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THINGS THAT COME THROUGH UNTIL TEXTING BECOMES WEB BASED AND WE CAN ACCESS IT THROUGH ANOTHER WAY, I DON'T SEE ANY OPTION BEHIND NOT DOING THIS, AND I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT MOVE TO MAKE.

I DO THINK THE PIECES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT WERE KEY ABOUT WEB ACCESS COME MEANS, THAT IF I CAN GET TO OUTLOOK THROUGH MY PHONE, WHY NOT ALLOW ME TO ACCESS MY E-MAIL THAT WAY, AS LONG AS ALL MY E-MAILS SEND OUT THROUGH THERE.

THAT TO ME DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM SOME MAYBE IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE DEVICE AS TO WHETHER IT'S STORED AND ARCHIVED IS REALLY MORE THE WAY TO SPEAK TO IT THAN ABOUT THE DEVICE.

SO THOSE ARE THE PIECES. I APPRECIATE THAT PEOPLE HAVE OLD CELL PHONE NUMBERS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DILIGENT ABOUT REEDUCATING AND BRINGING THAT FORWARD TO A CHANGE. I THINK THIS IS A LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM AT THE BOARD THAT IT'S WORTH IT TO DO.

HOW WE WORK TO INTEGRATE IS GOING TO BE THE CHALLENGE.

I THINK SHARED CALENDARS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY THAT YOU CAN SHARE YOUR DISTRICT CALENDAR ACROSS.

IT JUST SHARES. I'M IN THE REALLY GOOD WITH THAT CLOUD WORLD. I WILL LEAVE THAT TO YOU.

BUT APPRECIATE THE CHALLENGE OF TRYING TO BALANCE.

I USED TO CARRY A WORK PHONE AS LONG AS I COULD...LY NEVER HAVE DISTRICT STUFF ON MY WORK PHONE WHEN I HAVE THAT.

AT THAT POINT I WOULD HAVE BEEN CARRYING THREE PHONES IF WE HAD DISTRICT PHONES. I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT MOVE TO MAKE. I THINK IT GUARANTEES TRANSPARENCY, ABILITY TO COMPLY WITH ANY REQUESTS THAT COME THROUGH. I THINK IT ALLOWS FOR CONTINUE R CONTINUITY. I THINK IT'S RIGHT.

I THINK PERHAPS LOOKING AT HOW THAT GETS REWRITTEN IN THE POLICY TO ADDRESS WEB ACCESS CAPACITY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE REALITY. WE ALL USE MULTIPLE TOOLS.

YOU KNOW, OUR PHONES AND IPAD AND DISTRICT LAPTOPS.

DOES IT MATTER SO MUCH IF IT'S WEB BASED, IT COULD BE ANY DEVICE THAT COMES INTO IT. IF IT'S NOT WEB-BASED, THEN IT MUST BE A DISTRICT DEVICE. THOSE ARE THE SORTS OF THINGS I

WOULD THINK ABOUT. >> SO RIGHT NOW ON A PERSONAL LAPTOP, I COULD ADD MY WORK OUTLOOK ACCOUNT TO THE OUTLOOK

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THAT'S WHY I DON'T USE MY PERSONAL LAPTOP FOR WORK.

>> MARK? >> OKAY.

WHEN THE... THIS IS AGAIN TECHNICAL.

LUCKILY I HAVE NEVER HAD MY E-MAIL ACCOUNT ON MY PHONE OR ON MY PERSON, BECAUSE I KNOW I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT.

BUT SECOND OF ALL, THAT MAKES THAT EASY.

BUT WHEN THE CALENDARS COME OUT, AND I HAVE... I CAN EASILY PUT THE CALENDAR ON MY PERSONAL CALENDAR TO MAKE SURE MY FAMILY KNOWS WHEN I'M SUPPOSED TO BE WHERE.

GOD KNOWS I DON'T REMEMBER TO ALWAYS TELL THEM.

BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE. I CAN'T AUTOMATICALLY GO TO MY CALENDAR. IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE THIS WAY I KNOW EXACTLY... I DON'T HAVE TO OPEN UP MY DISTRICT CALENDAR TO BE ABLE TO THEN FORWARD THAT APPOINTMENT TO MY PERSONAL CALENDAR.

IT IS JUST A MATTER OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE EVERYONE KNOW WHERE THE HELL I AM, TO BE QUITE FRANK.

CAN WE NO LONGER KEEP A CALENDAR OF ACCOUNTS?

>> THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT BOTH LISA AND ERIC ASKED.

GIVEN THIS POLICY LANGUAGE, THE ANSWER WOULD BE NO.

SO THERE WAS A REQUEST TO LOOK INTO THAT TO SEE IF THERE IS

DIFFERENT LANGUAGE. >> YEAH, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO... QUITE FRANKLY, IF MY CALENDAR CAN'T BE ON MY PERSONAL CALENDAR ALSO, THEN BASICALLILY HAVE TO TELL MY WIFE, OH, BY THE WAY, DON'T SCHEDULE ME ON X DATE, X DATE, EXF DATE FROM THAT TIME TO THAT TIME, BECAUSE THEN WE'LL BASICALLY HAVE TO RECREATE

IT. >> RIGHT.

>> THE OTHER QUESTION COMES UP, IF A CITIZEN, IF A RESIDENTS IN OUR DISTRICT CALLS ME UP ON WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS, WHETHER IT'S PERSONAL OR WHATEVER, AND THEY SAY, OH, BY THE WAY, WHAT IS THIS I HEAR ABOUT, DO I SAY, OKAY, EXCUSE ME, WE NOW HAVE TO DISCONNECT THIS PHONE CALL AND YOU NEED TO CALL ME ON MY DISTRICT ACCOUNT. THAT SEEMS A LITTLE RUDE TO THE -- WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS ACCESSIBLE, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE OURSELVES OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT JUST SEEMS A BIT... IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BE NATURAL, HAVE

THAT CONVERSATION BE EASY. >> I THINK THE SPIRIT OF THE POLICY IS TO CONDUCT BOARD BUSINESS ON DISTRICT DEVICES, DISTRICT NETWORK SYSTEMS, AND THERE'S ALSO THE REASONABLE PERSON RULE OF TRANSITION. I WOULD SAY THAT IF SOMEONE REACHES OUT TO YOU AND WOULD LIKE TO SCHEDULE A PHONE CALL THAT YOU WOULD CALL THEM FROM YOUR DISTRICT PHONE.

IF YOU'RE IN A CONVERSATION AND THEY BRING UP DISTRICT BUSINESS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HANG UP THERE TO CALL THERE.

TO ME THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE TRANSITION.

IT MAY BE EASIER FOR WHOMEVER REPLACES SIRI TO MAKE THIS TRANSITION, BECAUSE IT WILL BE LISTED ON THE WEBSITE.

ALL OF IT WILL BE THE NEW PROFILE AS OPPOSED TO SITTING BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITION YAM THOUGHTS ON THAT?

>> I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT WHEN I HAVE A CLOSE FRIEND THAT'S ON REDMOND CITY COUNCIL. SHE AND I WILL GET TOGETHER FOR,

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AND SHE AND I WILL COMMUNICATE ON HER PERSONAL CELL PHONE.

THEN IF I WANTED TO ASK HER A QUESTION RELATED TO SCHOOLS OR THE CITY, SHE ASKS ME TO CALL HER ON HER CITY CELL PHONE.

SO THERE IS INTENT WHERE YOU CAN.

THINGS WILL HAPPEN, LIKE SHE MIGHT ASK ME A RANDOM QUESTION WHEN WE'RE HAVING A PERSONAL CONVERSATION.

I'M NOT GOING TO ASK HER TO HANG UP AND CALL ME BACK ON THIS OTHER LINE. BUT THERE ARE CLEAR TIMES WHEN I WOULD LIKE THE TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS RELATED TO THE CITY OR RELATED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, AND THEN WE COMMUNICATE OVER DIFFERENT LINES OF COMMUNICATION AT THAT POINT.

BECAUSE SHE IS THERE SUBJECT TO THE SAME LAWS AS WE ARE.

I THINK THAT THAT IS PROBABLY A PRACTICE THAT MOST OF THEM HAVE, HOPEFULLY ALL OF THEM. ERIC?

>> I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS A WAY TO CARVE OUT, AS LONG AS THERE IS A CALENDAR PART, WHICH IS REALLY FOR ME THE BIGGEST IMPEDIMENT TO BEING LIKE THIS IS FINE, IT'S GREAT, IF THERE IS A WAY TO CARVE OUT, AS LONG AS THERE IS THE DUPLICATE.

BECAUSE I MAKE SURE THAT -- I HAVE TERESA SEND CALENDAR ADVICE TO BOTH MY WORK AND MY DISTRICT, AND THEN THE CALENDARS I THEN ACCEPT FOR BOTH THE WORK AND THE DISTRICT.

SO AS LONG AS THERE IS A DUPLICATE, I WONDER IF THAT IS SUFFICIENT AND IF THERE IS A WAY TO CARVE THAT OUT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S QUITE A MEALY MOUTH POLICY WAY OF DRAFTING. SO I WONDER IF THAT WOULD ACCOMPLISH, I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW FOR PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE PRA, WHETHER THAT WOULD AFFECT THE DECISION.

ALSO, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, IF THE ONLY PUBLIC RECORD THAT'S BEING CREATED ON MY WORK ACCOUNT CALENDAR, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE

THAT PROBLEMATIC FOR MY VIEW. >> LISA?

>> YEAH, I THINK THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE LAW, AND THEN THERE IS THIS BOARD POLICY THAT WE'RE TRYING THE DRAFT.

THE WAY THAT THE BOARD POLICY READS, IT PREVENTS US RIGHT NOW FROM DOING THAT. BECAUSE WE MUST USE THE DISTRICT LAPTOP. WE MAY NOT USE ANY PERSONAL DEVICES. I THINK WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS FROM A LAW PERSPECTIVE, IT'S NOT AGAINST THE LAW.

IT'S JUST THAT IT OPENS UP A DEGREE OF RISK.

IF I AM STRICTLY ON DISTRICT DEVICES, I KNOW I'M FINE AND MY PERSONAL DEVICES WILL BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

AS SOON AS I STEP OFF OF A DISTRICT DEVICE, I NEED TO BE AWARE THAT THERE IS SOME RISK INVOLVED.

OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A DIFFERENT RISK FROM FORWARDING A SINGLE OR FORWARDING MEETING INVITES VERSUS HAVING AN IN-DEPTH SECTION CONVERSATION ABOUT LIKE A DEFINITE DISTRICT ISSUE.

SO I THINK FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, JUST NAVIGATING THAT AND, YEAH, COMING UP WITH SOMETHING FOR OURSELVES THAT IS OBVIOUSLY ALIGNED WITH THE LAW BUT ALSO GIVES THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO WORK THE WAY THAT THEY WANT TO WORK.

AS LONG AS IT'S LEGAL. YEAH, SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH WITH RIGHT NOW IS I UNDERSTAND THE LAW.

I TOTALLY WANT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.

THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I MIGHT BE OKAY TO OPENING MYSELF UP TO A SMALL DEGREE OF RISK FOR A VERY LARGE PERSONAL BENEFIT.

I THINK THAT WILL LOOK DIFFERENT FOR EACH OF US.

>> MARK, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?

>> I AM GENERALLY FINE, BY THE WAY.

>> AFTER ALL OF THAT. AFTER ALL THAT.

>> NO, LOOK, IT'S ANNOYING AND IT'S SCARY, RIGHT? IT'S A CHANGE. THE LAST THING I WANT IS MORE TECHNOLOGY IN MY LIFE RIGHT NOW. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?

>> I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS GENERALLY THERE'S CONSENT CONSES ABOUT MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION. WE HAVE FEEDBACK AND CONCERNS AROUND WEB-BASED APPLICATIONS THAT WE USE LIKE E-MAIL AND WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO STRICTLY ADHERE TO DISTRICT DEVICES FOR THE USE OF THOSE ITEMS. IF WE CAN MAYBE GO BACK AND REWRITE A COUPLE COMPONENTS.

>> I THINK WHAT WAS BROUGHT TODAY WAS PROBABLY THE MOST CONSERVATIVE APPROACH POSSIBLE. SO WE WILL WORK THROUGH THIS.

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WE WILL GET IT OUT TO THE BOARD PRIOR TO THAT.

SO IF THERE'S QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING.

AND WE CAN PUT IT ON NON-CONSENT IF THE BOARD WANTS TO DISCUSS IT

AS WELL. >> YES, MARK.

>> ONE QUICK QUESTION. OFF THE TECHNOLOGY ISSUE, IF SOMEONE TAGS US ON FACEBOOK BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION ON THE PARENT PAGE OR WHATEVER, NOW, HOW DO WE COMPLY BUT YET ALSO NOT IGNORE OUR PUBLIC? I CAN SAY, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T ANSWER THIS ON FACEBOOK, YOU'LL HAVE TO E-MAIL ME AT XXX. THAT'S GOING TO LOOK REALLY BAD TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S GOING TO LOOK -- YOU'RE GOING TO SHRUG YOUR SHOULDER? YOU DON'T CARE?

>> I THINK YOU CAN INFORM THEM NICELY OF THE LAW.

I MEAN, I GUESS I'M NOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO I DON'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM, BECAUSE I HAVE PERSONALLY ELECTED -- I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO I GUESS I CAN'T SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE.

I CAN SPEAK FROM WHAT I WOULD DO IF I WAS POTENTIALLY IN THAT POSITION. I WOULD INFORM THAT THAT I LEGALLY CANNOT DISCUSS THIS BECAUSE IT'S CREATING A PUBLIC RECORD AND THAT CAN E-MAIL ME AT MY DISTRICT E-MAIL.

>> OUR CURRENT POLICY SPEAKS TO THIS.

>> YES, I THINK OUR SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY SPEAKS TO THIS.

>> IT ALLOWS RESPONSES. YOU CAN CLARIFY IN WRITING THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL, NOT A A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER OR A OFFICIAL SCHOOL BOARD SPOKESPERSON.

THIS SHOULD BE DONE THROUGH DISTRICT LINKS.

>> I THINK ALL OF THIS GOES BACK TO INTENT.

BECAUSE THE WORLD OF COMMUNICATION IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHEN OPMA WAS FIRST DRAFTED.

YOU THINK ABOUT THE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED DURING THAT TIME. AND SO YOU CAN IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T DO SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT I AM APPROACHED IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT AVENUES.

AND SO I ALWAYS TRY AND FILTER PEOPLE BACK TO A METHOD, MANNER, OR VENUE THAT I HAVE DEEMED AS THE BEST WAY TO OPERATE, AND SO I WOULD OFFER, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE IS REACHING OUT TO YOU ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AGAIN, IT'S NOT ABOUT ENDING THE CONVERSATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, INVITING SOMEONE IN IN A PLACE THAT IS GOOD FOR YOU AND IN ALIGNMENT WITH RECORDS RETENTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, KNOWING THAT WE ALL GET COMMUNICATION IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, I WOULD IMAGINE PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, ON SOCIAL MEDIA WOULD REACH OUT QUITE OFTEN.

IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT DIRECTING THEM BACK TO THE BEST PLACE FOR YOU TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION KNOWING THAT SOCIAL MEDIA ISN'T THE BEST VENUE TO DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH AS A BOARD MEMBER.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD OFFER. IT'S NOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DO OR DON'T. IT'S ABOUT GETTING TO THE PLACE THAT, A, IS BEST FOR YOU AND APPROPRIATE RATTLE FOR YOU, BUT ALSO IN ALIGNMENT WITH POLICY AND RETENTION.

>> WHEN I GET A REQUEST FROM A CITIZEN, A PARENT, I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY, I WILL USUALLY GIVE THEM THE LINK TO THE BOARD POLICY OR WHEREVER THEY CAN FIND IT.

BACK WHEN WE HAD THE OLD, I FORGET NOW WHAT THE THING WAS --

>> ACCOU >> LET'S TALK?

>> YES. THANK YOU.

IT WAS ALWAYS HARD TO REFER THEM TO LET'S TALK WHEN I COULDN'T REMEMBER THE NAME. I ALSO WASN'T SURE WHO TO REFER TO POLICY. I WOULD SAY, IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, CALL THE TRANSPORTATION PEOPLE. IF THEY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT CURRICULUM, I WOULD SEND THEM TO WHOEVER WAS IN CHARGE OF CURRICULUM AT THAT TIME. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SHOULD BE KOSHER, AM I CORRECT? ALSO, WHEN YOU PUT OUT A NOTICE ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE OF THE DISTRICT, KNOWING THAT IT DOESN'T REACH ALL THESE AUDIENCES, ESPECIALLY THE

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>> THAT PROBABLY ALSO GOES TO WHAT IS BOARD BUSINESS AND WHAT IS YOU'RE A BOARD MEMBER AND YOU HAVE THIS INFORMATION.

>> DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? >> IT'S BOARD BUSINESS.

IT WOULD BE BUSINESS THAT DIRECTLY RELATES TO DECISIONS OF THE BOARD, DECISIONS OF THE DISTRICT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S ALSO DETERMINING, SO IF SOMEONE SAYS, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING FOR, I DON'T LIKE X CURRICULUM, TELLING THEM CONTACT THE DIRECT AND THIS IS A PERSON, THAT REALLY ISN'T BOARD BUSINESS

PER SE. >> I WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M IN COMPLIANCE. GOD FORBID I WOULD EVER IGNORE A

LAW. >> LISA?

>> IT'S DEFINITELY A CHALLENGE. SPEAKING AS A NEW BOARD MEMBER, EVERYONE WHO DOES USE SOCIAL MEDIA A FAIR BIT, BUT EVEN LEADING UP IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, KNOWING THEY WAS A CANDIDATE, YOU KNOW, JUST BEING VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT, THAT BUT THIS IS I THINK AGAIN WHERE I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE POLICY. LIKE JUST TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE, AFTER I GUESS AFTER THE LAST MEETING WHERE I WAS APPOINTED, SOMEBODY DID A POST THIS N A GROUP THAT I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF FOR YEARS SAYING, TAG LISA GUTHRIE, CONGRATULATIONS OR WHATEVER. SHE'S BEEN APPOINTED.

IT IS VERY AWKWARD TO BE LIKE, JUST NOT SAY ANYTHING.

YOU KNOW, AND AT THE SAME TIME, I READ THROUGH GP-10.

IS THIS OKAY TO DO? TO SAY THANK YOU.

IF YOU WANT THE REACH OUT, HERE'S MY E-MAIL ADDRESS.

SO YEAH. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A SOLUTION.

I'M JUST SAYING I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH THE LANGUAGE.

>> AND THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S BOARD WORK VERSUS I HAD A PERSONAL ACCOMPLISHMENT. AND SO FOR ME, SOMEONE POSTS THAT, THEN I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU DO A THUMBS-UP AND A SMILEY FACE? I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

AND THANK YOU ALL. I'M VERY EXCITED.

HERE'S MY E-MAIL ADDRESS. AND THEN BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT CONDUCTING ANY BUSINESS. YOU'RE... IT WOULD BE LIKE IF SOMEONE WALKED IN AND CONGRATULATED YOU IF PERSON.

YOU WOULDN'T GHOST THEM AND JUST WALK AWAY.

YOU WOULD SAY, THANK YOU. I'M EXCITED.

WELL, IT DEPENDS ON THE PERSON. BUT YOU WOULD THANK THEM.

YOU WOULD SAY, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

HERE'S MY PRIORITY. BUT THAT'S NOT BOARD BUSINESS.

THAT'S THE PERSONAL SIDE OF YOU BEING EXCITED THAT YOU HAD A PERSONAL ACCOMPLISHMENT. THAT'S HOW I VIEW IT.

>> WELL, THE OTHER THING ON THESE CONVERSATIONS QUITE FRANK, UNLESS YOU ARE FOOLISH, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE DRAGGED INTO ONE OF THOSE LONG CONVERSATIONS ON FACEBOOK ACCOUNT, BECAUSE THERE IS NO ACTUAL ANSWER THAT THEY WILL BE HAPPY UNLESS YOU SAY, YES, YOU'RE RIGHT, AND I DO THAT WITH MY FAMILY MEMBERS TO BE QUITE FRANK WHEN THEY TAG ME. SO IT'S RATHER THAT YOU WOULD EVER HAVE THAT. IT'S MORE OFTEN A SITUATION OF BEING A TRAFFIC COP. AND THAT THEY REALLY APPRECIATE.

THEY ASK, WHY IS CONCERN I HAD A PERSON CALL ME ONE TIME WHO HAD... WE HAD FOR SOME REASON LOCKED A GATE TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DURING THE SUMMER. THAT'S WHERE THE SENIORS LIKED TO LOCK THE TRASH. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A SAFE PLACE FOR THEM TO WALK. THEY KNEW HOW MANY MILES IT WAS.

THEY KNEW THE LENGTH OF THE TRACK.

I SAID, GEE, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S LOCKED.

IT MAY BE A SECURITY PRECAUTION. I'LL CHECK.

I CHECKED. IT WASN'T.

TURNS OUT SOMEBODY FORGOT AND LEFT THE THING LOCKED AT THE END OF SPRING SOME IT'S THAT SORT OF WHAT I CONSIDER PUBLIC SERVICE.

>> SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT SOCIAL MEDIA PIECE NEEDS A LITTLE MASSAGING TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE ABILITY TO DIRECT DIRECTLY AS OPPOSED TO WORK BUSINESS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A PIECE TO PUT IN THERE TO SORT OF CLARIFY THAT. I WILL ALSO SAY, AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOUR ABILITY TO ENGAGE ON SOCIAL MEDIA IS SHIFTED BECAUSE OF, THAT BECAUSE EVEN AS YOU SPEAK AS A INDIVIDUAL,

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THAT IS THE SAME. I DON'T DISAGREE.

IF IT'S A CONVERSATION YOU'RE HOLDING WITH SOMEBODY PERSONALLY IN THE GROCERY STORE, THEN HOW IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT IN SOME REGARDS? BUT I DO THINK THE WHOLE, BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE RULES OF OPMA AND PUBLIC RECORDS ACT WORK THE COMU COMMUNICATION TOOLS, GO HAVE TO THINK THROUGH THAT.

SO APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS REALLY IN GOING THROUGH THAT. IT'S SO WE CAN CLARIFY A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT. MAYBE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

>> IT'S LIKE LAST WEEK. ONE OF OUR FREAK FLIERGS IN OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS CAME UP TO ME IN THE GROCERY STORE ON OUR ECOLOGY, ON OUR ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY SAYING SHE KEEPS COMING IN. I SAID, PLEASE KEEP COMING, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU, WE'LL GIVE IT.

I SAID, YOU WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE DONE, WELL, THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION STUFF AND SO FORTH.

TO BE QUITE FRANK, THE CONVERSATION WENT ON PROBABLY LONGER THAN SHE OR I HAD INTENDED.

THAT TENDS TO HAPPEN. >> THAT'S THE FINAL ITEM ON

THIS. >> IT DOES SOUND LIKE THERE IS A REQUEST FOR SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE TO THE POLICY AROUND

SOCIAL MEDIA. >> YES.

>> JUST SOME CLARIFICATION. SO MY NOTE TO MYSELF IS TO HAVE THAT OUT TO THE BOARD BY SEPTEMBER 21.

[3. Board of Director's Budget]

>> SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT TOPIC, WHICH IS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS' BUDGET. DR. HOLMEN?

>> GREAT. SO AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BUDGET AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON EXPENSES, YOU CAN IMAGINE VALLEY WE'RE ALSO DIGGING INTO OUR OWN INTERNAL BUDGETS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE AREAS THAT CAN BE REDUCED, WHAT ARE THINGS THAT DO NEED TO BE RIGHT SIZED, BECAUSE COSTS HAVE INCREASED AND MAYBE WE HAVE NOT INCREASED BUDGETS TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT. THE BOARD HAS SOME OF THOSE ITEMS AS WELL THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME CLARITY AROUND THE BOARD'S BUDGET. AND THEN SOME OF THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS IN THAT AS WELL AS A DISCUSSION OF RCW 288, WHICH IS BOARD COMPENSATION. SO I THINK YOU CAN REASONBLY SEE THIS. SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THE BOARD'S BUDGET THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW AT THE TOP, WHICH PER STATE ACCOUNTING CODES ARE E ARE REQUIRED TO BE N THE BOARD'S BULLET. SO THESE ARE NOT DISCRETIONARY FUNDS FOR THE BOARD. THEY ARE JUST REQUIRED TO LIVE WITHIN THE BOARD'S BUDGET. YOU CAN SEE THINGS LIKE AUDITOR FEES, ELECTION EXPENSES, A LINE ITEM FOR LEGAL FEES, AND THEN SOME STAFF SALARIES AND BENEFITS THAT DO NEED TO BE THERE.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S ALSO TWO LINE ITEMS THERE THAT ARE DISCRETIONARY. ONE IS THE BOARD ASSOCIATION DUES, THAT IS WASDA AND BOARD CONFERENCE TRAINING COSTS.

THAT'S FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS. IF WE THEN GO DOWN BELOW UNDER THE BLUE SHADING, THAT'S THE LINE-ITEM EXPENSES.

THESE WERE ESTIMATES FOR '22/'23.

I WAS SENT THE ACTUALS, BUT THE ACTUALS ARE NOT CORRECT.

BECAUSE THERE WERE A FEW THINGS THAT WEREN'T CODED CORRECTLY.

SOME THINGS GOT CHARGED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT'S BUDGET RATHER THAN THE BOARD'S BUDGET. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE CLEAR SO WHEN I SEND YOU THE ACTUALS FOR '22/'23, IT DOES REPRESENT THE FULL EXPENSE OF THE WSSDA CONFERENCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PIECES THAT COME OUT OF THE BOARD'S BUDGET.

ONE, DUES FOR ROTARY, FOR KIWANIS, AND WE ALSO HAVE EASTLAKE HUMAN SERVICE, WHICH WAS CODED INCORRECTLY BUT IS PART OF THE BOARD'S BUDGET. IT'S $3,000 ANNUALLY.

AND SO WHEN YOU SEE THE NEXT VERSION OF THE BUDGET, YOU'LL

SEE THAT AS A LINE ITEM AS WELL. >> IS EASTLAKE PATHWAYS ANYTHING

WE PAY A MEMBERSHIP TO? >> NO.

>> OKAY. >> WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. MAYBE THAT'S PART OF THIS BUDGET PIECE. THEN WE HAVE TWO LINE ITEMS FOR ASSOCIATIONS THAT THE BOARD IS A PART OF.

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THAT COMES IN AROUND $8,600 ANNUALLY.

THEN WSSDA, WE HAVE BOTH THE DUES FOR THE ASSOCIATION MEMBERSHIP, AND THEN THERE ARE TWO SERVICES THAT WE RECEIVE, SO THE DUES ARE $40,000 A YEAR, AND THEN WE PAY ABOUT $1,900 FOR THOSE TWO SERVICES. ONE OF THOSE SERVICES IS ACCESS TO THEIR MODEL POLICIES, WHICH FOR US ADMINISTRATIVELY IS KEY.

I KNOW WHEN WE HAD THE UPDATE TO THE STUDENT BOARD REP POLICY, I KNOW WE ACCESSED THE MODEL POLICIES FOR THAT.

SO WE USED THE MODEL POLICIES FOR REALLY OUR POLI POLICY WORKE OFTEN. THEN I AM JUST --

>> [INAUDIBLE] >> IT'S SOMETHING ELSE.

I AM JUST NOT REMEMBERING WHAT IT IS.

ANYWAY, IT'S ANOTHER USEFUL PIECE.

MARK? >> YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW.

IT GOES BACK SO MANY YEARS. AFTER WE MISSED THAT ONE BOND BY A POINT AND A HALF OR WHATEVER IT WAS THE THEN-SUPERINTENDENT AND I HAD A CONVERSATION, WHY AREN'T WE INVOLVED WITH THE DISTRICT MEETING. I SAID, DO YOU ATTEND? SHE SAID, I DON'T HAVE TIME. I SAID I'LL ATTEND FOR YOU.

>> YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS, YOU KNOW, IN GOOD BUDGET TIMES, MAYBE YOU DON'T PAY AS MUCH ATTENTION TO THE LINE-ITEM PIECES. WE'RE KIND OF DOING THAT ACROSS THE BOARD AND WITH THE BOARD AS WELL.

THEN YOU CAN SEE DOWN BELOW UNDER "TRAINING" AND WHAT NOT, WE SET ASIDE ABOUT $7,000 ANNUALLY FOR THE WSSDA CONFERENCE. THERE'S YEARS WHERE WE USE THAT AND THERE'S YEARS WE DON'T. BECAUSE THERE ARE YEARS WHERE WE DON'T ALL GO OR IT'S IN BELLEVUE, LIKE THIS UPCOMING YEAR, WE WON'T SPEND $7,000 ON THE WSSDA CONFERENCE.

WE'LL HAVE THE CONFERENCE FEES, BUT THEN BOARD MINUTES AND THE SURPT WILL GO HOME AT NIGHT. SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR ADDITIONAL ACCOMMODATIONINGS. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE OTHER PIECES THERE. CONSULTATION WITH WSSDA, THE FEBRUARY CONFERENCE, WHICH IS THE LEGISLATIVE CONFERENCE THAT WE ATTEND, WE SET DOLLARS ASIDE FOR THE BOARD RETREAT ANNUALLY IN THE BOARD'S BUDGET. THEN YOU CAN SEE SOME OTHER PIECES, THINGS LIKEICATEDDERINGO JUST MAKING SURE THERE IS FOOD AND BEVERAGE PRIOR TO STUDY SESSION.

WE SET FUNDS ASIDE FOR THAT. AND SO ALL OF THAT TOTALS $85,000 FOR A BUDGET THAT IS SET UP TO BE RIGHT AROUND $59,000.

AND SO ONE OF THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCES HERE YOU'LL SEE IS BOARD ASSOCIATION DUES SET ASIDE AT $32,000 IN THE BUDGET, YET WE'RE SPENDING ALMOST $50,000 BETWEEN WSSDA AND NSBA.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE LINE-ITEM BUDGETS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN RIGHT-SIZED FOR YEARS, YET THERE'S SOME COSTS THAT ARE BORDERLINE REQUIRED COSTS THAT NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. YOU CAN SEE THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE THAT'S A LOOK-AHEAD BUDGET FOR '23/24.

THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT.

ONE IS VALLEY, WE DID AN ACROSS-THE-BOARD 5% CUT TO EVERY BUDGET KNOWING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS AROUND VARIOUS PIECES IN MANY DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS YOU JUST CAN'T CUT. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, BOARD ASSOCIATION DUES WENT FROM $32,000 TO $30,000.

THEY WILL ONCE AGAIN BE $50,000 THIS YEAR.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE LINE ITEMS THAT YOU JUST CAN'T DO A 5% CUT BECAUSE YOU NEEDED TO DO A 20% INCREASE ALREADY.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.

BUT THIS JUST REPRESENTS THAT 5% CUT.

THEN YOU CAN SEE OVER ON THE RIGHT, EVERYTHING IS THE SAME AS PART OF THE PLANNED MOVE-AHEAD BUDGET WITH ONE EXCEPTION.

THAT IS THE ADDITION OF BOARD COMPENSATION, WHICH IS A

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WHAT WOULD THAT TOTAL BE IF ALL BOARD MEMBERS ACCESSED THE TOTAL COMPENSATION AVAILABLE TO THEM UNDER THE REVISED CODES OF WASHINGTON IS $27,000. THAT INCLUDES THE STIPEND AND COMPENSATION AMOUNT PLUS REQUIRED TAXES THAT HAVE TO BE

PAID ON IT. >> SHOULD BY COMPENSATED? I WAS GOING TO SAY, YOU OWE ME SOME BACK PAY, PAL.

>> WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT PIECE. HOPEFULLY I HAVE EDUCATED MYSELF A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT OTHER THE LAST WEEK OR SO.

>> SO QUICK QUESTION. THE WSSDA DUES.

I WAS ON THE BOARD THE TIME THOSE WERE INCREASED INITIALLY, BECAUSE THE WSSDA DUES HAD NOT BEEN ADDRESSED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK BY THE BOARD. IT WAS ALSO BROUGHT TO THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE. I SPOKE AT IT IN REGARDS TO THE SUPPORT OF THESE ANNUAL DUES. BECAUSE IT REALLY WAS A MUCH MORE EXPITTABLE APPROACH, BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THE DUES ACROSS THE STATE SOME THAT SMALLER SCHOOL DISTRICT, THEY HAVE A MUCH SMALLER BUDGET THAN THE LARGER SCHOOL DISTRICTS DID.

WE REALLY WORKED AT CREATING A DIFFERENT FORMULA.

THAT WAS MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT. I COULD TELL YOU WHAT IT WAS WHEN I HAD MY COMPUTER, BUT I DON'T.

>> I'M GLAD WE'RE NOT CONDUCTING BUSINESS.

>> I'M NOT TOUCHING ANYTHING. >> SO THOSE ARE DUES THAT YOU JUST... WE PAY. THOSE BENEFITS WE GET FROM WSSDA IS PHENOMENAL. IT LOOK LIKE THE BUDGET WASN'T INCREASED APPROPRIATELY. OUR BUDGETS.

SO THAT TO ME WAS A MISTAKE MADE THREE TO FOUR YEARS AGO.

THAT SHOULD NOT BE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF TOTAL BUDGET NOW AS I

LOOK AT THINGS. >> CORRECT.

THAT'S THE WORK WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENT LEVEL BUDGETS AND LET'S JUST CALL THIS A DEPARTMENT-LEVEL BUDGET FOR NOW. BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE BETWEEN 2019 AND 2020, THAT'S WHEN THE SHIFT OCCURRED.

WHAT WSSD A DOES IS THEY LOOK AT OUR CERTIFIED INSTRUCTIONAL CLASS FTE TO PUT US IN A COST BAND.

I HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE BANDS YET TO KNOW.

WE'RE BAND Q, BUT I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS COMPARED TO OTHERS. BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IF YOU HAVE... IF YOU'RE AN INDEXED SCHOOL DISTRICT AND YOU'RE CIS, YOU'RE CERTIFIED INSTRUCTIONAL STAFF, FTE IS 11, YOU CAN REALLY ONLY PAY SO MUCH OUT OF YOUR DISTRICT'S BUDGET AND BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN WSSDA. I'M ASSUMING THAT WAS THE

CONVERSATION. >> VERY MUCH SOME IT WAS TRYING TO BE MUCH MORE EQUITABLE IN ITS APPROACH.

ALSO THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THE VALUE LOSS IT WAS STARTING TO PROVIDE FROM A STATE LEVEL IN REGARDS TO ADVOCACY WORK, IN REGARDS TO TRAINING.

SO THE WHOLE ON BOARD THAT CAME ON AFTER THAT AND ALL THE BOARD TRAINING THAT YOU SEE NOW, THAT WAS PARTIALLY POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THIS ADDRESSING THE DUES. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF SUPPORT STATEWIDE TO BE ABLE TO REALLY STRENGTHEN PUBLIC EDUCATION AND BOARD WORK AND WSSDA IS A KEY ROLE.

THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE INCREASE AS WELL.

>> BY THE WAY, YOU MISSED THE GUINNESS BOOK OF WORLD RECORDS FOR PUTTING THE NUMBER OF ACRONYMS IN ONE SENTENCE.

IF YOU HAD FIVE, WE COULD GET YOU AN AWARD.

>> OKAY. I AM WORKING ON IT.

>> A QUICK CLARIFYING QUESTION ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

I THOUGHT CELL PHONES AT $150 ANNUALLY?

>> SORRY. I NEED TO DO IT TIMES 12.

>> JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE OF THAT.

>> THAT WAS MY ERROR. >> I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS

$30,000. >> I WAS TRYING TO MAKE --

>> IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, I WOULD SAY ASK

>> A COMMENT? >> YEAH.

>> ON SOME ITEMS. ARE WE TAKING THAT NOW?

I DON'T WANT TO DERAIL THINGS. >> WHY DON'T YOU COMMENT, IF IT'S GOING TO BE SPOKEN TO LATER --

>> SURE. WHAT VALUE IF ANY ARE WE GETTING OUT OF THAT NSBA? I GUESS THAT'S A QUESTION FOR

THE BOARD. >> COMMENT NOTED.

>> I AM NOT AWARE AS A BOARD MEMBER, MAYBE IT'S MY OWN FAILING, BUT AS A BOARD MEMBER FOR SEVEN YEARS, I AM NOT AWARD OF ANY VALUE THAT WE AS A BOARD HAVE EVER GOTTEN OUT OF NSBAL.

I KNOW SOME BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ATTENDED CONFERENCES IN THE PAST AND MAYBE HAVE BROUGHT BACK SOME LEARNING THAT HAVE SOMEHOW INDIRECTLY BENEFITED THE BOARD. BUT MY COMMENT IS IF WE'RE LOOKING TO CUT COSTS, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST THING I WOULD WANT

TO CUT. >> WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT ASSOCIATIONS IN THE N A FUTURE SLIDE.

SO WE CAN CIRCLE BACK TO THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION?

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>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MEMBERSHIP IN BUT NOT

ASSOCIATIONS PER SE. >> I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT... WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT CUBE.

>> TO BE PART OF CUBE, YOU HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF NSBA.

>> SO WE CAN TALK IT NOW. >> WHY DON'T WE HAVE THAT

CONVERSATION NOW >> I AM GOING TO LET SIRI BEGIN

THIS DISCUSSION. >> SO I GUESS I GET IT.

ACTUALLY NSBA HAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN REGARDED TO WORK THAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S NOT A NEW PIECE.

SEVERAL STATES HAVE PULLED OUT OF NSBA AT THIS POINT.

LY SAY, I HAVE GONE TO THE CONFERENCE THREE TO FOUR TIMES I THINK OVER MY TIME ON HERE. THE VALUE WHEN I'VE GONE TO THE ACTUAL ADVOCACY WORK THAT MARK HAS ALSO ATTENDED IN WASHINGTON, D.C. THE VALUE OF BEING ABLE TO CAPTURE A NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE AND HEAR FROM DISTRICTS THAT ARE -- BECAUSE WE ARE SEARCH A LARGE DISTRICT IN WASHINGTON STATE, WE ARE NOT A LARGE DISTRICT ANYWHERE ELSE.

SO A LOT OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE FIND ARE TALKED ABOUT AT NSBA MORE EFFECTIVELY. I ALSO FOUND THAT TYPICALLY SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP THERE, WE WERE ABOUT THREE YEARS BEHIND. THOSE ISSUES HAD NOT MADE IT OUT HERE YET, BUT THEY WERE COMING. AND SO IT SORT OF GAVE YOU A HEADS UP OF WHAT WAS GOING ON, SORT OF IN THAT WORLD.

I HAD THE OPTION IN BOSTON TO DO THINGS TO, LEARN A LOT ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, TO LEARN ABOUT FUNDING THINGS AND HOW YOU COULD DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY. SO A LOT OF THAT WORK ACTUALLY HAS INFORMED MY WORK ON THE BOARD AS TO WHAT I DO.

AND I... AS FAR AS I KNOW, ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS GO TO NSBA.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY STILL DO. THEY WERE.

THAT WAS A PIECE OF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY VIEWED.

WHETHER IT'S NSBA OR SOMETHING ELSE, BEING ABLE TO HAVE A NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE OF SOME OF THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SCHOOL ISSUES THAT COME UP, YOU START TO SEE THOSE AS THEY COME THROUGH OUR SETTING AS WELL, AND YOU'RE LATE MORE PREPARED FOR WHAT'S GOING ON. YOU THEN HAVE OTHER RESOURCES THAT YOU CAN PULL FROM. I MEAN, THERE WAS SOME FASCINATING WORK DONE WITH CTE THAT I WAS ABLE TO BRING BACK AND BE ABLE TO TALK TO THAT AND HOW WE GO FORWARD.

THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

WHETHER YOU HAVE... YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER.

YOU CAN GO TO THE CONFERENCE WITHOUT BEING A MEMBER.

YOU JUST HAVE A SLIGHTLY HIGHER FEE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

SO WHAT'S THE GAIN FROM MEMBERSHIP? I DON'T KNOW. I WILL SAY, FROM THE LEGAL SIDE, I KNOW THE FEBRUARY CONFERENCE HAS BEEN HIGHLY VALUABLE IN MY OPINION FROM THE EQUITY SIDE AND FROM THE ADVOCACY WORK.

IT REALLY TOUCHED ON THE LEGAL AND LAW PIECE THAT WAS DRIVING A LOT OF THINGS AND SORT OF LEGISLATION YOU HAD TO BE AWARE OF AND HOW IT WAS MOVING IN DIFFERENT WAYS SO YOU COULD RESPOND TO THAT. IT'S ALSO WSSDA WAS VERY ACTIVE IN BEING ABLE TO SHAPE THAT GROUP WHO WENT TO THAT FEBRUARY ONE. SO I WAS ABLE TO HAVE A MUCH STRONGER VOICE, BEING ABLE TO ACT AS A STATED.

SO WHETHER WE HAVE TO BE A MEMBER TO DO ANY OF THAT, THAT'S

THE PIECE I DON'T KNOW. >> WHEN IT COMES TO THE ADVOCACY PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY, WHICHEVER IT MAY BE OF THE GIVEN YEAR, I FIND THAT, ONE, IT IS AN EFFECTIVE WAY FOR US TO REACH OUT TO MEMBERS WITH A BORDER GROUP SO THEY DON'T HEAR JUST LIKE WASHINGTON.

WHEN WE GO TO SEE THE OFFICE AND THEY SEE A DOZEN FOLKS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT MANY DISTRICTS IN THEIR OWN DISTRICT, IF YOU WILL, IT MAKES A GREATER IMPACT. WE'RE ABLE TO PULL OFF THE REPRESENTATIVE OFF THE FLOOR TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

IF I HAD GONE ON MY OWN, I DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY SHE WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO GO OUT IN THE HALLWAY AND SPEND HALF AN HOUR WITH US. THE OTHER THING IS HAVING US AS A MEMBER OF THE ORGANIZATION, I CAN SPEAK TO THIS AS A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION, THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION REPRESENTS OUR DOCTORS.

49% OR LESS NOW ACTUALLY BELONG TO THE AMA.

THAT POINT IS ALWAYS BROUGHT OUT WHEN YOU'RE TESTIFYING BEFORE CONGRESS OR WHATEVER HEARING. YOU DON'T REALLY REPRESENT EVERYBODY. WELL, YES, THEY DO.

THEY'RE JUST A LOT OF FREELOADERS, IF YOU WILL.

THE SAME WAY, WHEN NSBA WOULD GO AND TESTIFY, IT SHOWED A GREATER STRENGTH AND BREADTH OF THEIR MEMBERSHIP IF AS MANY OF THE

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IT GIVES THEM MORE OOMPH IF YOU WILL WHEN IT COMES TO POLICY DIRECTION. THIS COMES JUST AS A STAFFER WHO WORKS THAT WAY. I HAD MORE OOMPH WITH WITH THE MEDIA BECAUSE I WAS AMA AND NOT ALEX'S BODY SHOP.

>> TO NOT BE A MEMBER, IT WILL COST $200 ADDITIONAL FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO ATTEND. I SEE NO VALUE IN MEMBERSHIP.

I WOULD LIKE TO TERMINATE THAT FROM THE BUDGET.

>> I WOULD SAY TO RECOGNIZE WHAT MARK HAD SAID ABOUT THE VALUE OF STRENGTH IN NUMBERS. I THINK THAT WAS A VERY GOOD POINT. IT'S SOMETHING TO ALSO THINK

ABOUT IN GOING FORWARD. >> IT'S SOMETHING I LIVED WITH FOR TEN YEARS. ONE THING THAT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT. THE OTHER THING IS TOO THERE ARE OTHER MEMBERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE LOCAL, IF YOU WILL.

I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE EASTSIDE FORUM AS THE SICK LARGEST SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE STATE.

WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A LEADER AND WE OUGHT TO ACT LIKE ONE.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE GO TO THE VARIOUS CIVIC CLUBS IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET A BETTER GROUNDING IN THE COMMUNITY.

IN FACT, I THOUGHT WE OUGHT TO BE MEMBERS OF OTHERS TO BE QUITE FRANK AND HAVE IT SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE BOARD.

>> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO BOSWORTH WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS AS A WHOLE.

>> OH, I'M SORRY. >> JUST TO WRAP UP THE

ASSOCIATION COMPONENT. >> REWIND.

>> ERR SNICK -- ERIC?

>> MARK REMINDED ME THAT I ALSO WANTED TO DISCUSS THAT.

>> PLEASE HOLD. LISA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? OKAY.

I WILL SAY, MY SOLE EXPERIENCE WITH NSBA WAS MY FIRST YEAR AS A BOARD MEMBER. I WENT AND ATTENDED THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE. I WILL PUT THE CAVEAT OUT THERE THAT IT WAS THE FIRST IN-PERSON CONFERENCE AFTER COVID, SO I DID FEEL LIKE THERE WAS PROBABLY AN IMPACT TO THE QUALITY OF THE CONFERENCE BECAUSE OF THAT. THERE WERE THINGS THAT I LEARNED. IN PARTICULAR I REMEMBER SOME OF THE WORKSHOPS AROUND LIKE AI AND THINGS THAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS WERE DOING. I MEAN, THIS IS TWO YEARS AGO, AND THEY WERE ALREADY LEAPS AND BOUNDS AHEAD OF KIND OF WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING AT A BOARD LEVEL.

SO I AGREE WITH SIRI HA THERE IS VALUE THERE.

I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PROBABLY CONTINUING TO ATTEND CONFERENCES IN THE FUTURE WITH OR WITHOUT A MEMBERSHIP.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WITH OUR PROJECTED $56,000 DISCRETION,00Y BUDGET VERSUS OUR TOTAL BOARD ASSOCIATION DUES, I THINK IT IS PROBABLY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOWRLD CONTINUE TO PAY FOR THAT MEMBERSHIP.

>> IS THIS A GOOD BREAK POINT THAT WE COULD TAKE A BREAK

BETWEEN THESE TWO DISCUSSIONS? >> YES, I THINK THAT'S FINE.

WE CAN TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK. PEOPLE CAN NOODLE ON THIS UNTIL WE GET BACK. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, EVERYONE. SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION AROUND OUR ASSOCIATION DUES.

>> SO IT'S A LINE-ITEM BUDGET. I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN TAKE ADVISE. FROM THE BOARD AND PROBABLY YOU, ERIC, AND I CAN GET TOGETHER AND MANAGE THE LINE-ITEM BUDGET.

THERE IS NO BOARD MEETING REQUIRED TO MANAGE A LINE-ITEM

BUDGET. >> FORMAL ACTION.

>> SO THIS IS THE LINE-ITEM BUDGET THAT YOU'RE SEEING AS

OPPOSED TO -- >> [INAUDIBLE] SORRY.

SORRY. >> SO THE BOARD'S REQUIREMENT TO ADOPT A BUDGET IS THE F-195. THEN THERE IS THE QUESTION, DO WE NEED TO HAVE A BOARD ACTION TO MODIFY THE BOARD'S LINE-ITEM

BUDGET. >> [INAUDIBLE]

>> CORRECT. BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN EVERY

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IS NOT THE CASE. >> SO I WOULD BE FINE WITH TAKING OFF THE NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION.

ONE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE UTILIZING THEIR SERVICES IN ANY WAY FROM THE MEMBERSHIP STANDPOINT THAT WE CAN'T ACCESS THE SERVICES WE ARE USING WITHOUT BEING A MEMBER.

RECOGNIZING IT DOES LESSEN THE VOICE AND UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> MARK? >> I WOULD SUGGEST THE IDEA THAT IF WE WANT TO BE A LEADER, WE HAVE TO WORK AMONG THE LEADERS AND TO DIMINISH THEIR IMPACT IS NOT FULFILLING OUR DUTY ON A NATIONAL LEVEL. I WOULD SUGGEST, TWO, BY COMPARISON TO PERHAPS OTHER LINE ITEMS THAT ARE PERHAPS UTILIZEDS AED AS MUCH AS THIS OT PROBLEMLY IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET. I THINK FOR US TO BE AN EFFECTIVE MEMBER OF ADVOCACY AND A TEAM FOR WSSDA, THAT'S THE STRENGTH. WE STRENGTHEN WSSDA'S IMPACT ON OUR POLICY AS WELL. THAT STRENGTHENS OUR ABILITY TO REPRESENT OUR PARENTS AND OUR STUDENTS.

>> I AM NOT SURE BEING A MEMBER LIMITING OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE THAT ENGAGEMENT AND ADVOCACY. SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY PIECE.

I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE HONESTLY. BUT I DO KNOW NSBA HAS A VARIETY OF SERVICES THAT I DON'T SEE THAT WE'RE UTILIZING.

THAT'S THE QUESTION IS TO WHETHER OR NOT MEMBERSHIP IS OF VALUE OR NOT. I BELIEVE WE CAN STILL CONTINUE WITH THE WORK THAT WE DO WITH THE EQUITY AND ADVOCACY CONFERENCE IN JANUARY/FEBRUARY. THERE IS NO REASON REASON -- ATG IS STILL POSSIBLE. THERE WE GO.

>> IF WE DON'T CONTINUE AND OTHER SCHOOL BOARDS ACROSS THE NATION TAKE UP THAT SAME ATTITUDE, WE'LL SEE NSBA EVAPORATE AS WELL AS OUR IMPACT NATIONALLY.

>> I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT WE'RE GETTING OUT OF OUT MEMBERSHIP. AT THIS POINT I CAN'T ARTICULATE THAT WE ARE GETTING ANYTHING OUT OF THAT MEMBERSHIP.

IN THE FUTURE, THERE IS ALWAYS THE OPTION TO REREGISTER WITH THEM AS WELL, POTENTIALLY IF WE DO SEE VALUE OR IF SOMETHING CHANGES WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR US TO BE A MEMBER AGAIN. I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS ANY RULE ABOUT IF YOU CANCEL YOUR MEMBERSHIP, YOU CAN NEVER JOIN BACK. SO I WOULD ALSO LEAN TOWARD REMOVING IT FROM OUR BUDGET AT THIS TIME.

>> YEAH, I'M FINE WITH THAT, TOO.

I DEFINITELY HEAR THAT. IT'S REALLY HARD, BUT WE'RE ASKING OUR WHOLE DISTRICT TO MAKE SOME REALLY TOUGH CUTS.

YES, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO JUSTIFY THAT REALLY LARGE LINE ITEM THIS YEAR. I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE CAN REVISIT THIS IN THE FUTURE. YEAH.

>> OKAY. SO THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THEN THE OTHER AREA, WHICH IS OUR SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE ARE A PART OF. THE BIG ONE THAT WAS MISSING FROM THAT SUMMARY WAS THE EASTSIDE HUMAN SERVICES FORUM.

THE COST OF MEMBERSHIP FOR THAT IS ABOUT $3,000 A YEAR.

IN GENERAL I THINK RATHER THAN DISCUSSING KIND OF THE VALUE OF AN INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATION FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS CONVERSATION, I THINK THERE IS AN INTEREST IN DISCUSSING AN OVERALL STRATEGY AROUND HOW OUR BOARD SHOULD BE ENGAGING OR NOT ENGAGING WITH SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY IN GENERAL, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A DECISION OF THE BOARD THAT THERE IS A LIST IN WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE AND THEN WE HAVE -- WE PAY FOR THOSE MEMBERSHIPS, BECAUSE AS A BOARD WE HAVE AGREED. WE FIND INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE THEN WILLING TO ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS, AND THEN WE GET FEEDBACK, WE GET INFORMATION BACK ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AS THEY RELATE TO OUR BOARD WORK OR OUR COMMUNITIES. RIGHT NOW MY UNDERSTANDING IS HOW THIS HAS BEEN DONE IS IT HAS BEEN INDIVIDUAL BOARD INTERESTS WHEN IT HAS COME UP. THEY HAVE BEEN ADDED OR NOT.

SIRI? >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING UP THERE. THE REDMOND 2050 ADVISORY AND

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>> SO, I GUESS WE CAN OPEN UP TO DISCUSSION AROUND GENERAL

IDEAS. >> CAN OFFER WHERE THAT CAME FROM? IN BOARD DOCS RIGHT NOW, THAT IS WHERE THAT CAME FROM. THAT IS HELPFUL TO KNOW AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT IS UPDATED.

>> I AGREE, IT HAS BEEN HAPHAZARD AS FOR WHERE WE SHOULD BE. I THINK ONE OF MY BUGGABOO OR PUBLIC OUTRAGE IS THE ONLY TIME WE GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC IS - - WE OUGHT TO BE A CONSTANT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. AS FAR AS GOING TO PTS A MEETINGS OR BEING A MEMBER OF ONE TODAY GROUP OR ANOTHER, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US IF PEOPLE HAVE THE TIME TO GO, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE COMMITMENTS THAT PROHIBIT PEOPLE FROM GOING TO THOSE MEETINGS.

THERE IS A BODY CLOCK THAT I HAVE APROBLEM WITH .

I GET UP AT 6:00 IN GOOD MORNING TO GO TO A BREAKFAST MEETING, BUT I LIKE MINE NATURAL BODY CLOCK.

THEY OFFERED SCHOLARSHIP OPPORTUNITIES TO KNOW THE ROTAR SCHOLARSHIP TOEASTLAKE . IT NOW INCLUDES LAKE WASHINGTON TECH AS A PART OF THAT CONSORTIUM BOARD.

AS A FINAL PIECE, WE HAVE REACHED OUTTO THE STUDENTS WANTING TO DO A TWO YEAR PROGRAM .

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US IN REDMOND, KIRKLAND, YOU NAME IT.

I THINK WE SHOULD BE. I THINK IT IS HELPFUL FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SEE US INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY BEYOND TURNING ON OUR BOARD MEETINGS TWICE A MONTH.

I ALSO THINK THAT IT HELPS OUR STUDENTS AS WELL AS I AM TRYING TO GET FUNDS FOR LEVIES AND BONDS DID I HAVE ACCESS TO LEADERS THAT I MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN BEFORE.

WHEN I JOINED THE ROTARY UP IN SPANISH, HALF OF THE CITY

COUNCIL WAS UP. >> I THINK THERE IS AN INTERESTING QUESTION HERE. AT LEAST FOR ME IT IS INTERESTING. THAT IS, TO WHAT BENEFIT FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS IT FOR A BOARD MEMBER TO BE REPRESENTED AT THESE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS VERSUS A MEMBER OF THE STAFF? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. I AM KIND OF CURIOUS TO HEAR PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVES AS WELL. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A BOND CAMPAIGN, I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR STAFF TO BE ATTENDING THESE COMMUNITY SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS TO INFORM THEM ABOUT WHY WE ARE GOING OUT, WHAT IT MEANS, HOW MUCH AND ALL THAT EXPLANATION. THAT JUST MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.I THINK IT IS USEFUL FOR A BOARD MEMBER TO ALSO BE PRESENT.I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS NECESSARY, PER SE.

I WOULD OPEN THAT FOR DISCUSSION.

>> WHEN WE DO HAVE LEVY AND/OR BOND, STAFF IS LIMITED TO THE INFORMATIONAL. ONCE THE STAFF MEMBER GETS DOWN AND THE BOARD MEMBER CAN STAND UP AND ADVOCATE AND RECRUIT PEOPLE TO HELP IN THAT EFFORT. IF YOU ARE NOT A MEMBER AND THEY DO NOT KNOW WHO YOU ARE, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET THAT KIND OF RESPONSE. IT'S A MATTER OF BEING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. I THINK I CAN SEE THE MACRO AND NOT WANTING TO BE A PART OF THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT YOU WILL GET A BENEFIT FROM. OUR STUDENTS AND FAMILIES THAT BENEFIT, THESE ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDE MEALS TO LOW INCOME

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SHELTERS. WE ARE A PART OF THAT.

WE ARE KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AS BEING A PART OF IT. I THINK IT IS SHORTSIGHTED AND MYOPIC IN A LOT OF WAYS. IF WE HAVE A $40 A MONTH CELL PHONE FEE, THE SAME - - DOUBLE DIGITS AND TRIPLE DIGITS.

>> I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS ADVOCATING TO PULL OUT.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE OUR STRATEGY AND INTENT IN CHOOSING SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION .

>> YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A BIGGER STRATEGIC CONCEPT IN WHICH YOU TURN TO GET A FRAMEWORK OF WHAT IS OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH

COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS? >> I THINK SO, THAT IS WHERE WE

WILL LIKE TO START. >> INITIALLY, I REMEMBER HOLDING THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH DOCTOR PIERCE IN REGARDS TO HOW DO WE LOOK AT BUILDING THAT COMMUNITY PEACE AND DOING SO? ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, WE DID A LOT MORE WORK REACHING OUT AROUND OUR LEVY BOND. IT'S OF VALUE TO BE THERE ALL THE TIME, NOT ONLY AT THOSE TIMES TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. I DO THINK THERE IS VALUE FOR BEING INVOLVED. WHETHER THAT IS A BOARD RESPONSIBILITY TO BE INVOLVED AS A PIECE THAT OUGHT TO BE DISCUSSED AND DETERMINED. I DO BELIEVE THERE IS AN ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS FAIR, IF THERE BEING A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BOARD.

THAT THERE IS FEEDBACK TO THE BOARD ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THAT SETTING. THERE SHOULD BE SOME FEEDBACK LOOP, IF THERE IS AN INVESTMENT BY THE BOARD AND BEING THERE.

THEREFORE, WHAT IS THE ROLE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHAT ARE WE BEING BENEFITED FROM BY PAYING FOR THAT? THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY AROUND THE BUDGET.

I DIDN'T THINK THERE IS VALUE BEHIND IT.

ESPECIALLY AFTER COVID, IT'S ANOTHER PIECE.

THE NEED TO BE SENT IN PERSON CONTACT SO YOU CAN HAVE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS IN THAT SETTING. THERE'S NOTHING THAT STOPS ANY BOARD MEMBER FROM SERVING ON BOARDS AND THINGS THAT IS NO REQUIREMENT FROM THE BOARD TO SAY YOU ARE NOT A BOARD REPRESENTATIVE WHILE YOU ARE THERE.

>> SO, YOU CAN SEE MY TEAM HAS BEEN UPDATING THE INFORMATION YOU SEE HERE JUST AS WE HAVE PULLED US TOGETHER IN ONE PLAC . YOU CAN SEE STAFF PARTICIPATED IN A LOT OF THE ORGANIZATION ALREADY.

WHERE ARE THE PLACES THAT WE HAVE A GOOD REACH TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHERE ARE THE GAPS? WE HAVE A GREAT REACH TO OUR PARENTS.

AND A LOT OF OUR FORMER FAMILIES, WE DON'T TAKE THEM OFF OF OUR MAILING LIST UNLESS THEY ASKED, THAT'S A SERVICE TO THEM. BUT, WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT REACH INTO OUR RETIRED COMMUNITIES OR OUR COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE NEVERBEEN PARENTS YEAR IN THE DISTRICT .

I FIND THAT EVERY TIME I GO TO OUR ROTARY CLUBS, THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE YOUTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. THERE REALLY ARE ALLIES, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO LEVERAGE AND CONNECT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO ME IS A MUCH DIFFERENT TYPE OF ORGANIZATION.

IT'S ABOUT SERVING THE COMMUNITY IN A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT IT'S NOT A SERVICE ORGANIZATION, IF YOU WILL.

MAYBE BE MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION ON A PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT HAVING REPRESENTATION ON ROTARY GIVES US AN AVENUE INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE A HARD TIME ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING ON A CONSISTENT BASIS.I FIND THAT VALUABLE.

IF I WAS LOOKING AT THESE TO BE STRATEGIC ABOUT WHERE THE BOARD SITS, I WOULD SAY - - AND ROTARY.

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THEY ARE SEEKING, HOW DID YOU GET THIS INFORMATION OUT? THEY ARE ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE IMPACT OUR COMMUNITIES? FOR MANY OF THEM, IT'S ABOUT YOUTH. FOR ME, THAT IS WHY I THINK THAT IS OF HIGH VALUE FOR US. YES, BOND AND LEVY TIME, BUT JUST THE ONGOING NATURE OF THE RELATIONSHIP, IT ENHANCES THE EXPERIENCE OF OUR STUDENTS IN SCHOOLS.

THAT IS WHY I THINK, IF YOU'RE JUST TALKING SERVICE ORGANIZATION, THERE ARE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ROLE. THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT.

>> I WOULD POSE A QUESTION, WE HAVE A RANDOM ASSIGNMENT OF WHICH ONES WE ARE CURRENTLY PARTICIPATING IN.

IF THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO HAVE A FOR LACK OF BETTER WORD STRATEGY ABOUND AROUND BEING INVOLVED, IN MY BRAIN IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE DESIGN DIRECTOR DISTRICTS TO THE CITIES IN WHICH THEY LIVE. NOT A REQUIREMENT, BUT WITH AND ASK OR TO ATTEMPT. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE IN THAT CAPACITY THEM FOR THE DISTRICT TO PAY FOR THE MEMBERSHIP COST . THEY ARE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BOARD. [INAUDIBLE].

>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP, ONCE WE GET A

CONSENSUS AROUND THE STRATEGY. >> ONE OF THE REASONS I WOUND UP MEETING ONE OF THE PERSONS BECAUSE I WAS THE ONLY ONE WITH TIME TO GO . THE OTHER ASPECT, IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO TRY AND SPREAD IT OUT. PEOPLE WHO ARE IN REDMOND, I AM IN UNINCORPORATED REDMOND, TO BE QUITE FRANK IF SOMEONE FROM THE REDMOND AREA 12, THAT'S GREAT.

WHAT DO WE DO IF THE ONE IN SMAMISH, ENDED UP BEING A

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TELL THAT TO A STAFF MEMBER THAT SHOWS UP AT 730.

BUT, I TRIED TORECRUIT HIM AND WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEM .

>> ERIC, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE?

[INAUDIBLE]. >> WHAT'S THE IDEA THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS, ASSUMING THAT IS WHAT EVERYONE CAN AGREE TO, IF THE BOARD IS THE MEMBER OF THE ASSOCIATION'S AND NOT THE INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER? I AGREE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THE CERTAINTY BACK LOOP AND TO HAVE BOARD MEETINGS OF WHAT IS GOING ON. IT'S A LITTLE NUANCED, I DO NOT THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER.

WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR THAT POOR MEMBERS MEMBERSHIP, WE ARE PAYING FOR THE BOARD MEMBERSHIP.

I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A FEEDBACK LOOP IN THE SYSTEM, I DON'T THINK THE POLICY NEEDS TO BE SO EXPLICIT TO SAY WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR MARK TO BE A MEMBER OF KIWANIS, WE ARE PAYING FOR THE DISTRICT OF KIWANIS.

THERE SHOULD BE SOME LEVEL OF REPORTING BACK.

>> I THINK WE ARE PAYING FOR A BOARD MEMBER.

>> IT WAS THE SUPERINTENDENT MEMBERSHIP THAT ENDED UP TAKING

OVER BECAUSE I COULDN'T ATTEND. >> IF A BOARD MEMBER STEPPED INTO THAT POSITION AND SAID I WOULD BE THE REPRESENTATIVE, THEY SHOULD BE AN AGREEMENT BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THAT AS A REGULAR ITEM.

>> I ALSO THINK MANY OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS MEET WEEKLY.

I'M NOT SURE IT'S A REASONABLE ASKED TO ATTEND WEEKLY, EVEN THOUGH IT IS WONDERFUL FOR RELATIONSHIP BUILDING.

FIGURING OUT THE CORRECT PATTERN FOR THE BOARD TO ATTEND THESE SERVICE ORGANIZATION MEETINGS, I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE WEEKLY.I CANNOT DO A WEEKLY MEETING OF THE SERVICE ORGANIZATION, SO THAT IS ANOTHER POINT OF DISCUSSION.

>> WE ARE GENERALLY IN AGREEMENT THAT IS A GOOD STRATEGY TO HAVE. I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYONE OBJECT.

WITH THAT IN MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR, AND THAT IS THE EAST SIDE HUMAN

SERVICES BOARD. >> COULD WE HAVE STAFF TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT OTHER CIVIC CLUBS OR CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE THATWE DON'T BELONG TO ? WE DID THIS HAPPENSTANCE. I KNOW AND KIRKLAND AND THEIR UP AND SMAMISH. THERE WOULD ALSO BE THE LIONS CLUB, WAS A GREAT CLUB BACK HOME.

WE ARE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS OUT THERE AND WHAT ARE WE NOT THINKING OF?GOD KNOWS, I WON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE GUARDING CLUB . BUT SERIOUSLY, IF THERE OTHER GROUPS THAT SOMEONE KNOWS ABOU , I WOULD BE OPEN TO THE IDEA.

WHETHER IT IS OFFICIAL, NONOFFICIAL, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT. IT'S A PAIN IN THE BUTT TO

DRIVE 10MILES TO THE MEETING . >> THE OTHER THING I ASKED MY TEAM TO DO IS ONE OF THE OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE. IS IT A FORMAL OR INFORMAL

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FORMAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH EASTSIDE SERVICES COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS, NURSING NETWORKS, IF I COULD SPEAK SPANISH BETTER I WOULD TAKE THIS ONE BETTER. OPERATION SCHOOL BELL.

SOUND IS A MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE ORGANIZATION.

ALL OF THOSE HAVE FORMAL RELATIONSHIPS AND WE HAVE INFORMAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH BRAZILIAN COMMUNITY SERVICES.

FOR TOMORROW, BUT A PLATE FULL. THIS IS FROM THREE DAYS OF STAFF PROVIDING FEEDBACK, SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD THIS OUT. KIND OF TO YOUR POINT, IF STAFF ARE WHERE THEY ARE ABLE TO BE FORMALLY MEETING INFORMALLY,

THEY ARE IN THAT AS WELL. >> ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU MADE YOUR LIST AND TO BE QUITE FRANK I TRIED TO GO AND IT IS NEVER BEEN SCHEDULED, THAT'S FIRE.

IT SEEMED LIKE EVERY FAITH AND THEIR BROTHER AND SISTER OUR

MEMBERS EXCEPT FOR US. >> YES, I DO THINK THERE IS AN INTEREST IN SEEING WHAT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THERE POTENTIALLY ARE IN FALLING UNDER OUR NEW STRATEGY.

MOVING FORWARD TO EASTSIDE HUMAN SERVICES, AGAIN, I WOULD YOU SPEAK FROM MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR TWO YEARS NOW.

I HAVE YET TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE MEMBER.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN ANY UPDATES AROUND THE WORK THEY ARE DOING WITH THE DISTRICT, OR WHAT THAT PARTNERSHIP IS. I HONESTLY CANNOT SAY I EVEN KNOW WHAT THE POINT IS FOR EASTSIDE HUMAN SERVICES.

I'M NOT ASKING FOR AN EXPLANATION, I AM JUST SAYING THAT IT'S A REFLECTION OF THEIR ENGAGEMENT WITH THIS ORGANIZATION. THEREFORE THEN, IT BEGS THE QUESTION OF IF IT IS WORTH PAYING $3000 PER YEAR TO BE A MEMBER OF THIS ORGANIZATION THAT I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE ANY VALUABLE FEEDBACK ON OR ENGAGEMENT WITH.

MY PROPOSAL INITIALLY WOULD BE TO CANCEL OUR MEMBERSHIP WITH THE HUMAN SERVICES FORUM AND ALSO AN UNDERSTANDING THAT EASTSIDE PATHWAYS SEEMS TO BE DOING A LOT OF SIMILAR WORK, IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT. WE ARE ENGAGED WITH EASTSIDE PAST WE PATHWAY BUT STAFF IS EMBEDDED.

IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH

THAT ORGANIZATION. >> JUST TO GET SOME HISTORY, I STEPPED INTO THE POSITION AFTER CASSONDRA.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAD A MEMBER UP IN THE BOARD SEATING HER OR NOT.I ASSUMED IT WAS YOU, TO BE QUITE FRANK.

AGAIN, WE'LL MAKE THE MONTHLY REPORTS AND HAVE NOT BEEN ASKED TO. I UNFORTUNATELY THE MEETING I ATTENDED WITH THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE, MY WIFE WAS NOT PLEASED. I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT EASTSIDE HUMAN SERVICE FORUM THAT YOU WILL FIND EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT AND EVERY - - EASTSIDE OUR MEMBERS.

CITY COUNCIL AND CITY GOVERNMENTS ARE MEMBERS.

IT'S A MATTER OF HAVING INPUT TO SOCIAL SERVICES AND EASTSIDE SERVICES THAT ARE OUT THERE. AM I GOING TO LIVE AND DIE ON THE SWORD? NO.

AGAIN, IT IS A PART OF BEING A LEADER IN THE EASTSIDE.

YOU END UP HAVING TO BE A PART OF THE ORGANIZATIONS WE DON'T SEE A DIRECT IMPACT ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

THEY ARE AN EDUCATIONAL ORGANIZATION, NOT A LOBBYING ORGANIZATION. IT'S A VERY DISTINCT LIMITATION THAT THEY HAVE. THEY CAN HOLD FORUMS ON A GIVEN

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Z ON A TOPIC. >> I THINK WE HAD THE QUESTION AND WHAT OTHER SCHOOL MEMBERS PARTICIPATE IN YOU SAID HUMAN SERVICES. I BELIEVE THERE ARE ONLY TWO AND WE ARE ONE OF THEM. I BELIEVE BELLEVUE HAS PULLED

OUT AND SO HAS NORTH SHORE. >> I DID SERVE ON THE BOARD WHEN THEY CAME ON. THEY WERE LOOKING FORÓTHE CHURCH AND WANTED WASHINGTON TO BE INVOLVED.

AT THAT POINT, EASTSIDE PATHWAYS WAS NOT IN EXISTENCE.

IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BRING TOGETHER A DIFFERENT SYSTEM. IT BROUGHT NONPROFITS WITH CITIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND HOSPITALS TO HOLD THAT CONVERSATION GOING FORWARD. I THINK THEY HAVE HAD A HARD TIME FINDING THEIR FOOTING. I THINK TO THE PROCESS, IT WILL BE HARD TO SEE WHERE IS THE INFLUENCE AT THIS POINT IN TIME OF BEING ABLE TO GO FORWARD. I KNOW IN CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME CITIES, THEY FIND THE VALUE OF HUMAN SERVICES COMING TOGETHER. BEING THAT WE ARE THE HUMAN SERVICE PROVIDER IN MANY REGARDS, THERE MIGHT BE SOME ARGUMENT THERE THAT THERE IS PRESENCE THERE.

IT DOES BRING YOUR CITY'S, REDMOND, BELLEVUE ACTIVELY ENGAGED. THAT IS GOOD.

THEY USED TO DO CONVENING'S BECAUSE I REMEMBER GOING TO THE CONVENING STAT THEY HAD. IT GAVE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT VARIOUS ISSUES AND WERE SCHOOL ISSUES MIGHT BE WITHIN THOSE ISSUES. BUT, I AM UNAWARE.

I HAVE NOT SEEN WORKSHOPS COMING FROM THAT.

I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH. >> I HAVE ONLY BEEN TO ONE WORKSHOP IN THE LAST FEW YEARS AND THEY HAVE PART-TIME STAFF AND IT IS TURNED OVER A BIT. IT COMES FROM THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE STRENGTH IN THE BUDGET TO HAVE A FULL-TIME STAFF. THAT SAID, IF IT'S - -, SO BE IT. WE DO PROVIDE HUMAN SERVICES SUPPORT OF MENTAL HEALTH ON THE EAST SIDE AND SUPPORT OF HOUSING FOR HOMELESS STUDENTS. IT WILL BE THROUGH THEIR

PRIORITIES. >> ON THE SLIDE, I WILL HAVE ANY SKIN IN THIS GAME, TO GIVE YOU HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE IN THAT PIECE, AND NO LEADERSHIP EASTSIDE AND HE SLEPT PATHWAY LEADERSHIP ISN'T UP HERE. THEY WERE TRYING TO DO COLLABORATIVES AT ONE POINT AS WELL.

THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE EASTSIDE HUMAN SERVICES AND EASTSIDE PATHWAY MODELS. THE QUESTION IS WHERE DO WE WANT TO TARGET OUR TIME IN THOSE COLLECTIVE IMPACT MODELS.

THEY ARE ALL VERY SIMILAR IN THEIR APPROACH.

EASTSIDE PATHWAYS IS MOST SPECIFICALLY ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE DO . THEY ARE BIRTH TO 26 IS THE AGE THAT THEY ARE WORKING WITH. IT IS DESIGNED AROUND SCHOOLS AND SCHOOLS BEING ENGAGED. WE GET ENGAGED INITIALLY IN 2017, 2016. THEY ALSO HAD SOME CHALLENGES AND HAVE BEEN DOING A REVAMP OF THEIR ENTIRE BOARD AND THEIR PROGRAMS. I THINK THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES THERE AS WELL AND BEING ABLE TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE ENGAGE IN EASTSIDE PATHWAYS. ALTHOUGH, THEY DO ALIGN DIRECTLY WITH WHAT WE DO SO THERE IS SOME VALUE WITH THAT.

BELLEVUE SCHOOL THAT YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE INVOLVED AT THE TIME. IT TOOK SEVERAL YEARS TO GET LIKE WASHED AND INTEGRATED INTO THAT AND WE BECAME A VERY CLEAR PLAYER WITH OUR DATA AND ABILITY TO DO SOME OF THAT WORK. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL PLAY OUT. IF THAT IS A PLACE THAT OUR ENGAGEMENT IS IT VALUE. I JUST DON'T KNOW.

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>> JUST A POINT OF INFORMATION. EASTSIDE HUMAN SERVICES AND I BELIEVE IT'S EASTSIDE ALLIANCE, I COULD BE FUZZY ON THE EXACT NAME, THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF MERGING.I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN WITH THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

THAT SAID, IF WE END UP BEING A MEMBER OF ONLY ONE, EVENTUALLY, WE WILL BE A MEMBER OF ALL OF THEM AGAIN.

THAT SAID, I THINK WE HAVE CITY COUNCILMEMBERS WOULD BE DISAPPOINTED TO SEE US. I KNOW AND CASSONDRA LEFT THE BOARD ALL THE SUDDEN, IT WAS A SCRAMBLE WITH EASTSIDE HUMAN SERVICES TO SEE YOU COULD BE A PART OF IT.

I STARTED GETTING REPEATED CALLS WHICH IS WHY WE ARE INTERESTED IN BECOMING A PART OF IT.

ANYWAY, THAT IS MY INPUT AS FAR AS INFORMATION GOES.

>> LISA OR ERIC, DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION?

>> ON WHETHER HE SHOULD PAY FOR A MEMBERSHIP? I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE PAYING FOR A MEMBERSHIP.

>> I HAVE NO REAL OPINION. >> KAI, REALLY QUICK? FOR ME, THIS ISN'T A CONVERSATION ON THE EASTSIDE SERVICES FORM. IT'S ABOUT WE DO WE TARGET OUR ENERGY? WE CAN'T DISSIPATE IN EVERY ORGANIZATION, BUT MANY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE WONDERFUL MISSIONS THAT WE CAN CONNECT TO OUR ORGANIZATION AND OUR WORK.

I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THE COMMITMENT OF STAFF TO EASTSIDE PATHWAYS IN THE DATA ANALYSIS AND DATA VIEWS IS QUITE EXTENSIVE. - - WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN PROVIDING EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP IN E SIDE PATHWAYS AROUND A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES THAT THEY CONTINUE TO POINT TO AS SOME OF THE HALLMARK SUCCESS AS AN ORGANIZATION.

WE ARE ACTUALLY EMBEDDED PRETTY DEEPLY WITH THESE PATHWAYS.

WHEREAS STAFF ARE NOT EMBEDDED WITH EASTSIDE HUMAN SERVICES.

AGAIN, IT IS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THEIR MISSION OR WORK, IT HAS TO DO WITH WHERE WE HAVE ALLOCATED TIME WITH STAFF AND THOSE RESOURCES. WHILE THERE IS NOT A COST OF "MEMBERSHIP", THE COST IS REALLY STAFF TIME.

THERE IS BECAUSE, IT JUST ISN'T MEMBERSHIP.

SO TO ME, IT'S ABOUT WHERE ARE WE GOING TO ALIGN? YES, THE BOARD CONNECTION BUT IT IS ALSO ABOUT STAFF.

WE PROBABLY CANNOT DO BOTH AND WE ARE ALREADY EMBEDDED WITHIN EASTSIDE PATHWAY. THAT IS JUST FOR MY PERSPECTIVE WHERE STAFF TIME AND COMMITMENT IS RIGHT NOW.

>> HOW MUCH DO YOU ESTIMATE ON A MONTHLY BASIS?

>> SOME OF THEIR COOPERATIVES ANDMEETING ON A MONTHLY BASIS .

THERE ARE TIMES WHERE STAFF IS SPENDING HALF DAYS, PARTICULARLY AROUND DATA. WE HAVE A DATA SHARING AGREEMENT WITH EASTSIDE PATHWAYS.

JUST THAT WORK ALONE IS AN ANNUAL PROCESS.

IT IS WELL NORTH OF $3000. >> I THINK OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT THE REPRESENTATIVES WERE NOT FAMILIAR WITH AND WORK WITH CONSISTENTLY, I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE STAFF ATTENDING OR FILLING IN. I KNOW THE COUNTY COUNCILMEMBERS, YOU SAY STAFF MEMBERS ATTEND IN ON A RARE OCCASION THEY ATTEND. IT'S BASICALLY A MATTER OF YOU CAN HAVE STAFF DEVOTED HOURS TO BOTH.

THIS IS MORE OR LESS A COMPROMISE, TO BE QUITE FRANK.

>> CAN NONMEMBERS ATTEND EASTSIDE HUMAN SERVICES

LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEES? >> THEY CAN ATTEND.WHAT

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IF WE ARE NOT DOING AND SOMEONE DOESN'T WANT TO, BASICALLY LESS THAN A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS PER MONTH, THAT IS YOUR CALL.

>> THE PIECE OF HOW THE BOARD IS STRUCTURED, THERE ARE TWO SPACES SPECIFIC TO THE SCHOOL REPRESENTATIVES.

THIS APPLIES TO ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES.

I AM ASSUMING YOU HAVE TO BE A MEMBER IN ORDER TO BE ON THE BOARD, THAT I KNOW FOR SURE. WHETHER OR NOT IT IS TO BE ACTIVE IN THE ORGANIZATION, I DO NOT KNOW.

CAN YOU BE A MEMBER OR NONMEMBER AND STILL BE ACTIVE? KNOWING THAT YOU ARE EMBEDDED IN EASTSIDE PATHWAYS, THAT MIGHT BE THE PLACE. ARGUABLY, ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT COULD COME IN AS WELL BECAUSE THEY WILL GO RECRUITIN . THERE'S PROBABLY VALUE IN HAVING MULTIPLE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS THE AT THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO BE AT THEBOARD LEVEL . THAT WOULD BE HOMEWORK TO FIND

OUT. >> I THINK WE HAVE DONE EVERYONE'S PERSPECTIVES. THERE SEEMS TO BE GENERAL CONSENSUS THAT EASTSIDE PATHWAY SEEMS LIKE IT MAKES SENSE TO CONTINUE WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THEM AT THIS TIME WITH STAFF COMMITMENT AND THE TIME COMMITMENT.

WE ARE HEARING THE THING THAT EASTSIDE PATHWAYS ARE DOING IN OUR SCHOOLS. WE ARE DONE WITH THIS TOPIC.

THE LAST COMPONENT I THINK OF THE BUDGET, AM I LYING OR IS THAT IT? YES, THE LAST COMPONENT.

>> I BELIEVE IN 1987 THE REVISED CODE OF WASHINGTON WERE UPDATED. I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS THE FIRST TIME IT WAS IN THE RCW, BUT YOU CAN SEE - - TALKS ABOUT A COMPETITION WAIVER FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THIS IS NEVER BEEN A CONVERSATION THE BOARD IS FORMALLY HAD. IT'S IMPORTANT CONVERSATION TO HAVE. WITH THE REGULATIONS ALLOW IS FOR BOARD MEMBERS, THE BOARD MAY AUTHORIZE THROUGH A FORMAL ACTION AND THE BOARD MEETING TO ALLOW ACCESS TO COMPENSATION FOR BOARD WORK. IT WAS $50 PER DAY AT ATTENDANTS FOR A MEETING OR ANOTHER DESIGNATED DISTRICT ACTIVITY WHICH WE WOULD NEED TO DEFINE.

IT'S FOR A TOTAL OF $4800 ANNUALLY.

AS WE THINK ABOUT COMPENSATION, AND THE SCOPE OF THE COMPENSATION WORLD, THIS IS NOT REALLY ABOUT FUNDING A WORK POSITION. IT FEELS MORE LIKE AN HONORARIUM OR A SIPHON FOR TIME AND ASSOCIATED COSTS.

THAT IS WHAT THE RCW SPEAKS TO GOOD IT ACTUALLY GOES ON FURTHER TO SEE WHAT IS THE INTENT OF THIS.

I WILL READ THEIR WORDS, TO ENSURE FOR THE SAKE OF EDUCATIONAL EXCELLENCE THAT THE ELECTORATE IS THE BROADEST POSSIBLE FIELD IN WHICH TO CHOOSE QUALIFIED CANDIDATES FOR ITS SCHOOL BOARDS. THE SECOND THING IS TO ENSURE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON SCHOOL BOARDS BE OPEN TO ALL ACROSS FINANCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES. THE THIRD THING THE SITE IS TO ENSURE THE DEMANDING SOURCES DIRECTORS NOT BE LIMITED TO THOSE ABLE TO MAKE SUBSTANTIAL PERSONAL SACRIFICES.

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PREACHED OUR SIZE, THAT WASN'T, WE HAVE LEVY DOLLARS AND STATE DOLLARS. CODING THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE.

I ALSO DID A Q&A WITH BOTH ATTORNEYS AND OUR INSURANCE STAFF WHICH I'M HAPPY TO SHARE AFTER BOARD CONVERSATION.

>> WHEN I FIRST JOINED THE BOARD, SHE SAID THERE WAS A STIPEND BUT NO ONE TAKES IT. I DID NOT KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LINE ITEM FOR THOSE THINGS. IT WAS SWEPT OVER.

I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THE LAST SECTION.

THERE BEEN A BIG CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL.

I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT - - STAFF.

>> CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE?

>> CONCLUSION, I DO NOT SUPPORT PAYING BOARD MEMBERS.

I DISAGREE WITH THE POLICY THAT THE LEGISLATURE CODIFIED HERE.

I THINK SERVICE IN YOUR COMMUNITY IS IMPORTANT AND WE WANT SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE IN IT FOR SERVICE REASONS.

I THINK PAYING BOARD MEMBERS TO ME, THAT CUTS AGAINST THE, IT CORRUPTS. EVEN IF IT IS A SMALL AMOUNT, IT CORRUPTS THE SERVICE ASPECT WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

I DO NOT THINK THAT PAYING BOARD MEMBERS WILL LEAD TO BETTER BOARDS AND BETTER BOARD MEMBERS.

I CERTAINLY WOULD NOT TAKE IT AND WOULD NOT THINK AS A POLICY FOR OUR BOARD WE SHOULD BE COMPENSATING.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A COMMENT BEFORE WE GO BACK

AROUND? >> I CAN COMMENT.

I DEFINITELY FEEL THIS INTENT. I ALSO DON'T KNOW THAT PARTICULAR STIPEND IS GOING TO REALLY MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

I GUESS HAVE A TIMING ISSUE WITH IT.

THE FIELD FOR THIS NOVEMBER ELECTIONS IS SET.

IF WE TRY TO ENTER THE BROADEST FIELD, WE HAVE MISSED THE BOAT.

IF YOU WANTED TO REVISIT THIS WORK HAVE A TAKE EFFECT IN TWO YEARS, YOU CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

IT MAKES LITTLE SENSE FOR ME TO DO THAT AND 2023.

IF IT'S THE LEGISLATURE'S INTENT, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT OBSTACLES TO REALIZING THIS INTENT.

THE STIPEND THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS THE DROP IN THE BUCKET. IF WE WANTED TO DECIDE AS A BOARD, YOU WANT TO GET BEHIND THIS INTENT AND THE STIPEND AND BE A PART OF THE LARGER EFFORT. WE ALL KNOW THE HOOPS WE ALL

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IT DOES NOT FEEL LIKE ENOUGH. >> I WILL SAY, THIS HAS BEEN A TOPIC THAT WE HAVE SEEN ACROSS THE YEARS GO ACROSS THE BOARD.

I REMEMBER TALKING TO PTS SAY ABOUT PEOPLE REQUESTING STIPENDS. THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT BEING, OR A VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION. THERE WAS A WHOLE CHALLENGE AROUND PAYING. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID, WITH REGARDS TO SERVICE AND THE VALUE OF THAT.

THAT IS DEFINITELY THE CULTURAL PIECE THAT I BRING FROM HOW I WAS RAISED. AT THE SAME TIME, I RECOGNIZE THAT SHOULD SERVICE COST YOU TO DO SO.

THAT IS A DIFFERENT BEAST IN LOOKING AT THIS.

THE OTHER PIECE I HAVE IS A CHALLENGE WITH COMPENSATION RIGHT NOW, I AM NOT AS CLEAR AS YOU ARE IN REGARDS TO YES OR NO, IT'S A VERY GRAY AREA FOR ME AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

I APPRECIATE YOURS, SOME OF THE RESEARCH WE MET ABOUT COMPENSATING DOES NOT GET TO THIS INTENT AT ALL.T ACTUALLY DOES THE OPPOSITE AND EMBEDS PEOPLE LONGER.

IF THAT IS THE CASE IN THE WORK OF THE OTHER BARRIERS WHEN TO TACKLE AND REMOVE MORE EFFECTIVELY? AND MAINTAIN THE FOCUS? I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE CHALLENGE OF TIMING. THIS HAS TO BE - - IT WILL NOT AFFECT THOSE THAT ARE NEWLY ELECTED DIFFERENT, CITIES ARE

THAT WAY. >> PORT NUMBERS ARE NOT

MUNICIPAL OFFICERS. >> IT DOESN'T FALL THAT WE.

>> IS STILL A BOARD RESOLUTION AND WE GO INTO EFFECT

IMMEDIATELY> YES. >> INTERESTINGLY .

>> I THINK IT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION FOR THE BOARD TO REALLY THINK ABOUT AS TO, IF THE GOAL IS TO HAVE A WELL REPRESENTED BOARD THAT IS ENGAGED, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND WHAT IS THE FINANCIAL MEANING REQUIRED TO IT? AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE HAD ENGAGED BOARD MEMBERS AND THE FINANCIAL PEACE HAS NOT BEEN THERE.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE ARE NOT PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO WOULD BE ENGAGED THAT NOT WHAT AS MUCH OF A BARRIER.

IF YOU DO THIS IN THE MIDST OF A BUDGET DECREASE, THAT PIECE

MAKES IT HARD. >> BEFORE I GIVE YOU ANOTHER TURN, MY VIEWPOINT, AND I HAVE SPOKEN FOR THIS, ONE, I THINK IT IS A MISNOMER TO CALL THIS COMPLICATION FOR THE BOARD.

IN NOBODY'S DEFINITION OF COMPENSATION IS $50 OF FOUR-DAY EVENT. I'M JUST REFLECTING ON HAVE A BOARD MEETING, WE HAVE A STUDY SESSION, IT'S A MINIMUM OF 4 TO 5 HOURS OF TIME AND AWAY FROM MY FAMILY.

AND PAYING FOR A BABYSITTER IN THIS DAY AND AGE, $50 DOES NOT EVEN COVER ONE BOARD MEETING. I OBJECT TO THE TERM COMPENSATION WHEN TALKING ABOUT THIS.

I APPRECIATE THE INTENT OF THIS RCW.

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WE ALREADY HAVE CHOSEN, BECAUSE WE CHOSE TO RUN FOR OFFICE, NOBODY FORCED US TO DO THIS. WE KNEW WHAT WE WERE GETTING INTO WHEN WE RAN. I THINK PERSONAL SACRIFICE IS EXPECTED AND ANTICIPATED. I THINK THERE IS A PROBLEM WHEN WE ARE TELLING PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE TO FINANCIALLY BEEN PAID TO PARTICIPATE IN DEMOCRACY, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE DOING.

ALTHOUGH I AGREE THAT THIS IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ENOUGH MONEY TO GET RID OF THAT BURDEN OR NOT HAVE THAT THE LIMITATION FOR RUNNING FOR OFFICE, I THINK IT IS AT LEAST A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I TRIED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS $50 IN 1987 EQUIVALENT TO NOW? THAT IS WHAT I'M COMING FROM.

I AM IN A PLACE OF PRIVILEGE THAT I CAN'T AFFORD FAMILY COMING TO HELP WITH MY PERSONAL SITUATION SO I CAN PARTICIPATE IN OUR DEMOCRACY AND IN OUR DISTRICT.

IF THOSE ARE NOT THINGS THAT I COULD AFFORD, I COULD NOT HAVE RUN TO BE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD. MARK?

>> I ONLY KNOW OF TWO CANDIDATES BUT I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHERS WHO HAVE THAT TALK ABOUT IT PUBLICLY, HOW MUCH ARE YOU PAYING? ARE ONE BOARD MEMBER WHO ASKED WHEN SHE WAS RETIRING, CAME UP RECENTLY THIS LAST ELECTION TOO. I AGREE WITH YOU, IT'S THE COVERING OF EXPENSES TO BE QUITE FRANK.

AGAIN, FOR US TO GO ON THE ROAD TO A MEETING, NO WE DON'T GET PERDIEM BUT THE COVER OUR MEAL , THE COST OF THE PROGRAM.

I AGREE, THAT IS NOT COMPENSATION.

$50 A DAY, THAT WAS PROBABLY CHEAP IN 1987.

IN 1986 I WAS MAKING $30,000 A YEAR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT OUT OF INCOME LEVELS, I'M PROBABLY THE LEAST - - ANYONE IN THIS ROOM.

I HAVE SURVIVED IT.BASICALLY BECAUSE I HAD A SPOUSE.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE SHE WANTED TO BE INVOLVED.

IT'S A GREAT INTENT AND THAT THE COMPENSATION WERE LEVEL, IT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN GAINING MORE ACCESS TO A BROADER ARRAY OF CANDIDATES. IF WE WERE TALKING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PER MONTH, IT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

$50 A DAY, I DON'T THINK SO. I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, I THINK HE ENDED UP ON THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE.

I SAID I WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME ASKING TO BE COMPENSATED WHEN YOU KNOW THAT OUR STAFF MEMBERS WERE LIVING IN PUBLIC HOUSING ON FOOD STAMPS - - DIRECT IMPACT ON STUDENTS.

I WOULD NOT ACCEPT IT FOR THAT REASON.

SOMEONE WAS IN THE CLASSROOM EVERY DAY THAT IS A HELL OF A LOT MORE THAN I DO FOR GOING TO A MEETING.

I AGREE WITH COMPENSATION AND REIMBURSEMENT.

>> I WANT TO CLEAN UP SOMETHING I SAID EARLIER.

I AGREE WITH THE GOALS OF WHAT WAS LISTED IN THE INTENT THERE.

BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH IS COMPENSATING FOR MEMBERS ACCOMPLISHES THOSE GOALS. I APPRECIATE THE DIRECTOR BEING MUCH MORE ELOQUENT THAT I WAS. THERE ARE OTHER STRUCTURAL

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THEY JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT GOING OFF-TOPIC, BUT I WAS LOOKING AT THE POLICIES. BOARD MEMBER QUALIFICATIONS AND ELECTIONS. WE HAVE BEEN THERE THAT WE DO MORE WORK ON CANDIDATE ORIENTATION.

FOR TODAY, THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, I THINK THE LARGER CONVERSATION ABOUT THINKING ABOUT HOW WE SUPPORT AND HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE FOR ADVERTISING FOR OPENINGS, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO RUN, THINKING ABOUT THE LIMITATIONS ON THOSE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE WANT TO SERVE AND BE ABLE TO SERVE BUT CAN'T. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT TODAY, BUT HAVING A WORKING GROUP OR SOMETHING ON THE LARGER SYSTEMIC ISSUES WOULD BE COOL.

I DO THINK COMPENSATION PARTICULAR FOR $300 IS GOING TO

BE TALKED ABOUT TODAY.>> I HAVE THREE PIECES.

MY OPINION IS THAT THE BOARD SHOULD AUTHORIZE COMPENSATION UNDER THESE CONDITIONS: ANY BOARD MEMBER CAN ACCESS THAT ARE NOT ACCESSED THAT. THAT IS AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON'S DECISION AS OPPOSED TO IT IS ONE DECISION FOR AN ENTIRE BOARD. I THINK OF THE WORK THAT ALL OF YOU DO AND WELL YES, THERE IS HONOR IN DOING IT STRICTLY ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS, THERE ARE ALSO TRUE IN REAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH SPORTSMANSHIP. JUST DRIVING HERE, THE COST OF GASOLINE OR PLUGGING IN YOUR ELECTRIC CAR, WHATEVER IT IS.

THERE ARE TRUE AND REAL COSTS THAT COME ALONGSIDE OF THIS.

I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT THE TERM COMPENSATION IS ALMOST OFFENSIVE IN THIS FRAMEWORK. IT IS MORE AN HONORARIUM WHICH IS SIMPLE RECOGNITION OF A SET OF HOURS AND TIME.

THINK ABOUT GOING DOWN TO THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON FOR GRADUATION. YOU PAYING FOR GAS, PROBABLY PAYING TO DRIVE THE 520 BRIDGE BOTH WAYS.

BY THE TIME YOU HAVE COME HOME, YOU SPENT NORTH OF $50 TO JUST GET TO AND FROM THE EVENT. FOR ME, HAVING THE AVAILABILITY FOR BOARD MEMBERS IS A GOOD THING.

I DO NOT THINK IT INCENTIVIZES ANYONE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS WORK, BUT I THINK IT HONORS AT A VERY MINIMAL LEVEL THAT THAT THERE ARE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS WORK.

I CALLED PABLO ORTEGA YESTERDAY TO SAY HEY, THIS WAS THE INTENT AND WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION AROUND STRUCTURAL CONDITIONS THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TOPARTICIPATE .

HIS COMMENT, IT WAS ALMOST LIKE YOU HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH THEM. HE SAID, HE HAD A DIFFERENT OUTCOME. HE SAID THIS IS NOTHING THAT WILL CAUSEYOUR BOARD TO DIVERSIFY .

THIS IS SOMEONE THAT ALLOWS - - THERE IS A TON OF WORK YOU HAVE TO DO TO DIVERSIFY YOUR BOARD TO HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT REALLY DOES SEE IT AS A VIABLE. BUT, NOT DOING THIS COULD BE A BARRIER. UNINTENDED BARRIER.EVEN IF THE BOARD IS NOT ACCESS IT FOR YEARS.

HAVING IT AVAILABLE COULD BE ONE OF THE STRUCTURAL BARRIERS AT A MINIMUM REDUCED. THAT IS KIND OF WHERE WE LANDED

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SCHOOL BOARDS HAVE PASSED RESOLUTIONS THAT SAID FUTURE BOARD MEMBERS CAN ONLY HAVE ACCESS TO THIS, OR BOARDMEMBERS AFTER THE NEXT TERM . THAT IS FROM MY READING OF IT IN OUR ATTORNEYS READING OF IT, A MISINTERPRETATION OF THE CONSTITUTION AND MUNICIPAL LAWS AROUND THIS.

THAT IS MY OPINION OF THIS. I THINK MAKING IT AVAILABLE.

US BOARD MEMBERS MAY AT TIMES NOT ACCESS PORTION OF IT, AND SOME OF YOU MAY ACCESS PORTIONS OF IT.

OUR MEETINGS ALONE DON'T TOTAL $3800, SO IF YOU PARTICIPATE IN BOARD MEETINGS, THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN REACH THAT $4800 LIMIT.

BECAUSE THE $50 THRESHOLD, IT'S A PRETTY LOW THRESHOLD.

THAT IS MY OPINION.I WILL HAVE RESEARCH OR ANYTHING TO BACK THAT, IT'S HOW I FEEL. I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAY.

AND WE BRING PEOPLE IN TO SAY THEY ARE VOLUNTEERING TO SPEAK TO GROUPS, WE PROVIDE THEM WITH AN HONORARIUM.IN OUR PERSONAL LIVES, WE HAVE A SERVICE FOR SOMEONE WHO PAST.

TO ME, IT HONORS PEOPLE'S TIME. IT IS NOT WHAT INCENTIVIZES THEM TO DO THE WORK. IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT COMPOSITION LIKE THE CITY OF REDMOND ADJUSTED, THAT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF COMPENSATION THAT THE RESEARCH IS SPEAKING TO. THE OTHER PIECE FOR ME IS, YES WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE MANAGING HAVING TO THINK ABOUT OUR BUDGET, THAT IS A REAL THING.

ANYTIME YOU THOUGHT ABOUT ANY OTHER GROUP, IT HAS BEEN ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT GROUP IS HONOR TO THAT PROCESS.

I HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING THE BOARD CANNOT DO THIS BECAUSE OF XYZ GROUP. I THINK WE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH ALL OF HER LABOR GROUPSREPRESENTING . FOR ME, THAT FEELS DISCONNECTED FROM HOW WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THE SENSE OF THINGS.

>> I DO WANT TO COMMENT. $4800, I THINK IN THIS ROOM WE ARE SAYING ÃNOT A LOT OF MONEY BUT FOR SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IT IS. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE MY OWN PRIVILEGE AND FEELING THAT WOULD NOT MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENT DIFFERENCE. THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS A PRIVILEGE. ALSO THE QUESTION ABOUT TURNING IT DOWN. IT'S AVAILABLE TO THE BOARD, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO ACCESS IT OR NOT.

WHAT A COMMUNITY MEMBER BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT THAT THEY WERE

NOT ACCESSING CONVERSATION? >> I WOULD ASSUME, YES.

IT IS PUBLIC FUNDS AND WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY TAXES ONTHAT .

THAT'S WHERE THE NUMBER ON THE BUDGET WAS 27,000 AND NOT A LOWER AMOUNT. BUT JUST LIKE ALL OTHER EMPLOYEES, THE PAY WARRANT WOULD NOT BE ON THE BOARDS, IT WOULD BE DONE SIMILARLY TO HOW WE DO ALL OTHER COMPENSATIONS.

>> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION. >> IT UNCOMFORTABLE TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE IT IS OUR POSITIONS, BUT IT IS NECESSARY.

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>> WE HAD AN EXTENDED RETREAT BUT HE GOT CUT OFF THE AGENDA

BECAUSE WE WENT OVER TIME. >> I WOULD ASK MAY BE PRESIDENT IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE A RESOLUTION TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD AT A BOARD MEETING.I STARTED DRAFTING ONE END OF THE BOARD IS ONE THAT BROUGHT FORWARD, I WOULD WORK WITH LEGAL COUNSEL TO MAKE SURE IT IS ACCURATE AND APPROPRIATE.

PART OF THE DEFINITION WE DEFINE THE ACTIVITIES WE ARE DEFINING AVAILABLE FOR COMPENSATION.

IT'S A VERY TYPICAL THINGS, BOARD MEETINGS AND OTHER MEETINGS OUTSIDE SUCH AS CLOSED SESSIONS, FORMAL SCHOOL VISITS AND GRADUATION. JUST BEING REALLY SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT SO THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

YOU LET ME KNOW IF A RESOLUTION SHOULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD.

>> REIMBURSEMENT FOR EXPENSES. ATTENDING A CONFERENCE, TRAVEL,

YES OUTSIDE OF THAT. >> I DID THE MATH AND TO REACH 4800, 96 MEETINGS IN A YEAR. [LAUGHTER].

I THINK MOST OF US FALL UNDER THAT SIGNIFICANTLY.

>> ONE MORE COMMENT. FOR MY THREE YEARS AND THREE MONTHS ON THE JOB THE ROLE OF THE BOARD PRESIDENT IS DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT THAN OTHER POSITIONS, JUST BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU ARE ENGAGED WITH ME AROUND PLANNING QUESTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I WILL JUST SAY THAT PIECE AS

WELL.>> I APPRECIATE THAT. ANYONE ELSE WAS IN PRESIDENT WOULD APPRECIATE THAT, I THINK. [LAUGHTER].

[4. GC-5 Board Committees]

THE NEXT TOPIC IS GOING TO BE OUR BOARD COMMITTEE.

THESE ARE DISTRICT COMMITTEES, I WILL LET JOHN TAKE OVER.

>> I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THIS GRADE BEFORE.

PART OF THE BOARD'S POLICY IS THAT THE BOARD PRESIDENT WILL WORK WITH THE BOARD BUT ULTIMATELY ASSIGN COMMITTEE POSITIONS. THIS WAS A NEW EFFORT, I BELIEVE SIRI LET THOSE AROUND ADDING THE BOARD PRESIDENT WORKING WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT AROUND ASSIGNMENTS TO OPERATIONAL COMMITTEES. WE KNOW THAT WHEN OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE THERE LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATIONS, IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO HELP THEM INFORM THE FULL BOARD.

IT PROVIDES A DIFFERENT LENS INTO THE WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF WORK GOING ON THIS YEAR. I KNOW YOU SPOKE WITH EACH BOARD MEMBER AND WE FELT THAT THIS REPRESENTED THOSE CONVERSATIONS WELL. WE ALSO KNOW THAT WITH THE NEW BOARD MEMBER COMING ON THAT THEY WILL STEP INTO.

ONE OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMITTEES AND INCLUSION ADVISOR IS A STANDARD COMMITTEE.WE CAN

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HERE ONE IS ABOUT LEARNING AND RESEARCH AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

ALSO OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCE OFFICER CONNECTORS GROUP.

LISA SAID THAT WOULD BE A HIGH INTEREST FOR HER.

THAT IS THE DECISION THAT WE MADE.

I'M NOT SURE IF THERE ANY DECISIONS AROUND ASSIGNMENTS.

>> HOPEFULLY THIS IS NOT A SURPRISE TO ANYBODY .

I CONVERSATIONS WITH ENGAGEMENT LEVEL.

HOPEFULLY AT LEAST ONE OF YOUR INTERESTS IS PETE IN YOUR CHOICES. IF THE OTHER ONE IS NOT, I APOLOGIZE BUT THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY BOARD MEMBERS AND SO MANY SPOTS. MARK?

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN A CONSTANT COMPLAINT OR INPUT, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PHRASE IT IS OUR COMMUNICATIONS. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE WOULD BE REMISS WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS COMMITTEE LOOKING AT THE EFFICACY AND HOW TO BETTER COMMUNICATION WITH OUR COMMUNITY. I COULD BE WRONG, MAYBE THIS COMES UNDER ONE OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES, I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE PARENTS.

WE MAY NOT REALLY THINK ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS COMMITTEE.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> IS THERE ANOTHER SLIDE?

I WILL HOLD. >> ABOUT THE COMMITTEES?

>> NOT SPECIFICALLY, BUT THE BOARD'S ROLE AND THE

EXPECTATIONS. >> SO, WE HAVE A BOARD POLICY ON THE BOARD COMMITTEES. THIS IS A PROPOSAL?

>> YES, THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO UPDATE AND MODIFIED GC FIVE.

IT REALLY IS TO DEFINE WHAT ARE THE EXPECTATIONS IN GET THIS POSITION THAT A BOARD MEMBER HAS SITTING ON OPERATIONAL COMMITTEE? THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN A BOARD MEMBER ON ABOARD COMMITTEE .

BOARD COMMITTEE IS DRIVEN BY THE BOARD MEMBERS, WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A LINKAGE IN A WAY.IT'S ABOUT GATHERING INFORMATION AND UNDERSTANDING.

NUMBER ONE, ATTENDING AS AN OBSERVER, NOT A PARTICIPANT.

SO THE BOARD'S VOICE IS IMPACTEDIN THE CONVERSATION .

BOARD MEMBERS ARE NOT VOTING MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE OR COMMITTEE, THEY ARE NOT ACTIVELY PROVIDING OPTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION. THE OTHER THING THAT I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT AS WELL. ANYTIME AFTER WALK INTO A ROOM AND OFFER AN OPTION, THAT IS ALMOST ALWAYS THE ADOPTED OPTION. REALLY BRAINSTORMING, PROBLEM-SOLVING AND BEING CREATIVE , OUR VOICES LIMITS THAT. IT'S WEIRD BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS LIKE ON A PERSON AND WANT TO PURSUE BE IN THE DISCUSSION.

IT ALWAYS LEADS TO LESS DISCUSSION THAN MORE RICH DISCUSSION. NUMBER FOUR, I KNOW MARK HAS ASKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND GET TALKED ABOUT IT, IS THAT ESTABLISHMENT OF HOW DOES THE COMMITTEE UNDERSTAND THE BOARD MEMBERS ROLE AND IT? KNOWING THAT I WILL BE WORKING WITH MY TEAM AROUNDS AS WELL, BUT TAKING THE LEAD OF THE FACILITATOR, THAT TASK FORCE OR COMMITTEE FOR SETTING THAT PARAMETER FOR THE WHOLE COMMITTEE.

IF IT DOES NOT HAPPEN OR IS NOT AS CLEAR, YOU WOULD JUST SPEAK WITH THE LEAD TO MAKE SURE IT IS REVISITED.

BOARD MEMBERS TAKE NOTES. SOMETIMES NOTES ARE PROVIDED, SO SOME MORE ABOUT MAINTAINING YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND KEEPING THAT INFORMATION SO YOU, THEN CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE FULLBOARD . IT ISN'T JUST ABOUT YOU INDIVIDUALLY UNDERSTANDING THE FACILITIES WORK, IT'S ABOUT

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THAT'S THE FULL BENEFIT THE FULL BOARD GETS HAVING A BOARD MEMBER PARTICIPATE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT ERIC WOULD ASK ME.

THE IDEA THAT A COHERENT GOVERNANCE BOARD IS SITTING IN THE OPERATIONAL COMMITTEES IS TO HELP INFORM YOUR UNDERSTANDING OR EXECUTION OF YOUR OPERATIONAL POLICIES.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT SHOULD HELP INFORM THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE OT, BUT ALSO AS WE ARE MONITORING, IT SHOULD PROVIDE SOME KEY INSIGHTS INTO EVIDENCE, CONVERSATIONS OR IMPLEMENTATIO .

THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADD THIS IN THE GC FIVE AFTER 5.7 WHICH IS THE LANGUAGE AROUND BOARD PURCHASES ON OPERATIONAL COMMITTEES. [INAUDIBLE].

>> DID ANYONE PICK IT UP? [LAUGHTER].

OKAY, I WILL REPEAT WHAT I SAID.

THE AVENUE PRESIDENT, THE PRESIDENT 'S JOB IS TO MAKE COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE SOME STATEMENT ABOUT HOW LONG OR HOW REGULARLY THESE ASSIGNMENTS ARE REVIEWED. JUST FOR CLARITY.

>> I HAVE AN OPINION ON IT. IT HAS TO BE REVIEWED ANNUALLY BECAUSE THE TERMS OF THE COMMITTEES ARE DIFFERENT.

THERE ARE TWO YEAR COMMITTEES, ONE YEAR COMMITTEES, THEREFORE IT WILL PROBABLY BE THE JOB OF THE PRESIDENT TO REALLY LOOK AT

COMMITTEES. >> THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE TO

ME. >> PROBABLY UNDER THE RULES AND

RESPONSIBILITIES. >> WE COULD EITHER PUT IT UNDER THE PRESIDENT'S ROLE OR AND 5.7, THE PRESIDENT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO APPOINT THE BOARD MEMBERS ANNUALLY.

>> I ASSUME THESE COMMITTEES WHICH MOST OF US HAVE ATTENDED, MOST OF US HAVE BEEN TAKING IS ALREADY .

DOES THAT INCLUDE NOT COMMENTING? IT SEEMS THAT THAT IS THE CASE, YOU TALKING ABOUT I FIND THAT OFFENSIVE. OUR INPUT AND OUTPUT IS NEEDED.

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NOT TO HAVE ANY INPUT IN ANY CONVERSATION MAKES OUR

PARTICIPATION MEANINGLESS. >> MEMBER, THESE ARE THE BOARD'S RULES THEY ARE SETTING UP FOR THEMSELVES.

THAT IS REALLY A DISCUSSION FOR THE BOARD.

>> I AGREE, THAT IS MY POINT. I COULD JUST AS EASILY ASK NOTES FROM THE MEETING OR COULD GO FROM THERE.

THE BOARD MAY NEED TO BE THERE. >> I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING THE POLICY UPDATE. IN MY EXPERIENCE OF HAVING ABLE TO BE A BOARD MEMBER FOR THE STRATEGIC PROCESS, IT WAS DONE WITH DOCTOR - -. I'M ASSUMING THE MAJORITY OF HIS COMMITTEES ARE MADE UP OF A WIDE RANGE OF - -. I THEN WAS ABLE TO USE THE INFORMATION TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT THINGS.

WHEN PEOPLE TAKE NOTES, IT IS VERY DIFFERENT TO READ THE NOTES AND IT IS TO BE IN THE ROOM AND HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME. YOU DON'T GET THE CONTEXT, YOU WILL GET THE BODY LANGUAGE OR HOW THE ROOM IS PLAYING, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. I HAVE FOUND IT HIGHLY VALUABLE TO HAVE VERY CLEAR TO FIND THAT I AM NOT THERE TO TALK, I'M NOT THERE TO PRESENT MY VIEW. MY OPPORTUNITY COMES AT A DIFFERENT TIME. I AM ON THE BOARD AND IT WOULD COME TO ME, I STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE MY OPINION.

THIS IS MY OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AND THIS IS MY VALUE OF THIS PIECE. IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN WHAT IS GOING ON. ONE ON ONE, THAT IS NOT QUITE AS IN-DEPTH AND BEING ABLE TO DO SO.

IT ALL THE DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENS, YOU CAN HEAR MORE DISCUSSION. I APPRECIATE THAT PIECE AND PUTTING IT FOR IT. I HAVE BEEN ON COMMITTEES WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN ELECTIVES AND WE HAVE WATCHED THEM OVER TO KISSCOMMITTEES BECAUSE PEOPLE DEFER .

I HAVE, MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN, I WOULD PREFER WE DO THE CAKE IS A VERY MUCH HANDS-OFF APPROACH BECAUSE THESE ARE OPERATIONAL. OUR TERM COMES AT A LATER DATE.

>> IT MIGHT ALSO BE BENEFICIAL TO KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO KEEP THE COMMUNICATION WE SENT OUT TO COMMUNITIES AND FAMILIES, HE MAPPED OUT EACH OF THESE WORKGROUPS. I JUST TAKE OUR PRACTICE TREASURY, EIGHT PARENTS, TWO INDIVIDUALS IDENTIFIED IN THE SENIOR CITIZEN COMMUNITY, THREE FROM BUSINESS AND INDUSTRIES.

FOR COMMUNITIES AT LARGE, KNOWING THAT CAN COME FROM A

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YOU THINK ABOUT THE SCOPE. IF WE ARE ABLE TO ACTUALLY HAVE ALL OF THE REPRESENTATION, IT SHOULD BE WELL REPRESENTED.

THAT IS TRUE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL OF THESE.

ACCELERATED PROGRAMS CANNOT BE A HOT FOOT FOR THE SENIOR COMMUNITY, WE ARE 10 PARENTS. I WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT AS WELL. IT IS NOT SOLELY STAFF.

IT'S HIGHLY COMMUNITY FOCUSED. FOLKS EXTERNAL FROM THE

ORGANIZATION. >> I DO REMEMBER YOU BEING THERE LISTENING, BUT I DO NOT WANT TO GIVE YOU ANY CLUES FOR THAT. BUT, THERE IS VALUE IN HAVING A BOARD MEMBER THERE. IT MAKES THE COMMITTEE FEEL LIKE THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING IS BEING LISTENED TO AT THE TIME. I THINK THERE IS VALUE AS A BOARD MEMBER, I ALSO ATTENDED THE LAST UPDATE ON THE FACILITIES ADVISORY GROUP. THERE WAS VALUE AS A BOARD MEMBER TO HEAR THOSE CONVERSATIONS, SEE THE PROCESS TAKING PLACE. THE KEY PART THAT WE END I IN PARTICULAR DID NOT FALTER ON, FEEDING THAT BACK IN HAVING THAT REGULAR UPDATES WITH YOU AND SHARING THAT LEARNING.

SITTING, OBSERVING, LISTENING. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BE COMPLETELY QUIETAND PEOPLE ASKING QUESTIONS .

TALKING ABOUT THE WORK OF THE BOARD, THAT PROVIDED VALUE FOR ME. CLOSING THAT LUKE WOULD BE

REALLY HELPFUL. >> I WOULD ALSO OFFER THAT BY ANSWERING THE INFORMATIONAL QUESTION AND HELPING TO FRAME ANY QUESTION, ANYTIME I AM IN ONE OF HIS COMMITTEES, I WALK AWAY WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION AND CONTENT BEING DISCUSSED. REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS.

GETTING THOSE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING TO TALK MORE AND ANSWER MORE DEEPLY, WHO CAN TRULY HELP YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS, THEN THERE IS THAT AWKWARD SILENCE.

WE ALL PLAY A DIFFERENT ROLE IN EACH OF THESE THINGS.

THE BOARD'S INFLUENCE OVER ANYONE OF HIS COMMITTEES IS QUITE SIGNIFICANT. USE THE POLICIES AROUND THAT.

THE POLICIES DRIVE AND CORRECT WITH HIS COMMITTEES ARE ULTIMATELY IDENTIFYING AS OUR COVERS.

FOR ME, THAT IS THE BOARD'S ROLE.

YOU'VE DONE THE WORK AROUND YOUR RESULTS.

THOSE ARE VERY EXPLICIT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE TARGETING. THOSE ARE PIECES THAT THE BOARD HAS A TIME FOR YOU HAVE DIRECT INFLUENCE INTOTHOSE THINGS .

ALLOWING THE COMMITTEE TO REALLY DO THEIR WORK IS

IMPORTANT. >> OBVIOUSLY I HAVE NOT PARTICIPATED IN THE DISCUSSIONS, BUT HAVE PARTICIPATED IN DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AS A PARENT.

THE MAKEUP OF DIFFERENT COMMITTEES IS VERY DIFFERENT FOR THE DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS. I WILL SAY THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME AS A PARENT, I HAVE BEEN THE ONLY PARENT IN THE ROOM OR A SIGNIFICANT MINORITY. I SUSPECT, I HAVE NOT LOOKED

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THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENT ROLE FOR THE BOARD, THINKING ABOUT THE CONNECTION TO HER OWNERS. IF THERE IS A LOT OF OWNERS, THIS CASE PARENTS IN THE ROOM, THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT, WE NEED MAY NEED TO PLAY A DIFFERENT ROLE.

I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE SOME OF IT IS JUST ADDING LANGUAGE AROUND.

.4 MIGHT COVER SOME OF THIS, BUT IT MAY NEED TO MOUNT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME BROAD GUIDELINES OF WHEN WE ENGAGE.

THE SPECIFICS MIGHT BE DIFFERENT AND IT SHOULD BE A CONVERSATION BETWEEN BOARD MEMBERS ASSIGNED AND WHOEVER THE COMMITTEE NEEDED. I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT. SOME OF THIS MAY BE NOT HAVING PLAY THAT ROLE YET AND SEEING HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.

DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT IT DOES CHANGE THE CONVERSATION.

BEING VERY AWARE OF THAT, IT IS IMPORTANT.

IF THERE IS A VOICE WE KNOW AS A BOARD MEMBER, IS NOT BEING

REPRESENTED IN THAT ROOM. >> THE WAY I THINK ABOUT IT IS THAT, IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU ARE BEINGINVITED TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S SPACE . YOU ARE BEING INVITED TO LISTEN,NOT TO PARTICIPATE OR ENGAGE OR CORRECT .

NOT TO INFORM, IT'S LITERALLY JUST TO LISTEN AND LEARN.

THE MINUTE YOU SAY A WORD, EVEN IF IS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION, EVERYBODY LOOKS AT YOU. EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T WANT IT, THE DYNAMIC SHIFTS.THESE COMMITTEES ARE NOT OUR COMMITTEES, THEY ARE THE DISTRICTS COMMITTEES.

IT'S NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOARD TO GIVE OUR OPINION, OR GUIDE DISCUSSION OR LEAD THEM TO A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION.

IT IS TO LITERALLY HEAR WHAT THEY ARE COMING FROM, WHERE THEY ARE THINKING. IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THAT IS CONTRARY TO WHAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS, IT'S INSIGHT TO WHERE WE ARE POTENTIALLY LACKING IN OUR COMMUNICATION.

IT'S ALL INFORMATION. I THINK BEING VERY PRESCRIPTIVE AND SAYING WE DO NOT ENGAGE IS ACTUALLY CRUCIAL TO OUR COLLECTIVE UNDERSTANDING OF OUR BEHAVIOR ON THESE COMMITTEES.

>> MY CONCERN IS THAT ASKING THE QUESTION, ONE, YOUR READER ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION FOR YOURSELF UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, BUT ALSO BY ASKING THE QUESTION, THE CLARIFICATION CAN HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE CONVERSATION.

IF YOU HAVE ASKING THE QUESTIO , THAT'S FINE.

LET IT GO. BUT, IF I AM UNCLEAR, MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE ISN'T BUT IS IT READY TO APPROACH THE QUESTION AND THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABL , I DON'T KNOW.

>> ANOTHER AVENUE WILL BE TOO WORK WITH THE CHAIR.

[5. School Board Business Meeting Agenda]

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[INAUDIBLE]. >> I WOULD SAY NOT HAVING AN OPEN COMMENT IS OFFENSIVE. I FIND IT FIND IT A VIOLATION OF THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH. IF WE FEEL THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT COMES UP HIGH, NEED TO BE MADE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO.

I ALSO THINK BEING ABLE TO COMMENT ON - - IS ESSENTIAL.

>> I TAKE OFFENSE TO YOU CALLING THE CONTROLLING, I

DON'T APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR YOUR OFFENS . I THINK IT IS AND WE NEED TO BE

ABLE TO HAVE BOARD COMMENT. >> WE DO HAVE ONE COMMENT IF YOU WOULD LET US CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION.

THE NEXT SECTION OF THE AGENDA WOULD BE SCHOOL VISITS.

ANYTHING THAT WOULD FALL IN THIS CATEGORY IS ANYTHING SCHOOL RELATED THAT A BOARD MEMBER ATTENDED IN OR PARTICIPATE IN AND WOULD LIKE TO INFORM THE REST OF THE BOARD. AS THE WORK FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICT, IT MAKES SENSE THAT HER COMMENTS SHOULD BE CENTERED AROUND STUDENTS OR SCHOOLS DURING OUR SCHOOL BOARD.

WE ARE ALREADY SCHEDULED TO HAVE OUR SCHOOL VISITS, AS YOU CAN SEE AN ANNUAL CALENDAR. THERE SHOULD BE REGULAR UPDATES IN THIS SECTION FOR BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE ATTENDING SCHOOLS . WE HAVE OPENED IT UP TO OTHER SCHOOL RELATED EVENTS. IF A BOARD MEMBER WERE TO ATTEND A CHOIR PERFORMANCE OR THEATER PERFORMANCE AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE STUDENTS, THIS WOULD BE THE PLACE THEY COULD DO THAT. ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION, FOR THE FORMAL SCHOOL VISITS, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A WRITTEN SUMMARY BE DONE.

NOT BY A BOARD MEMBER, HAVING A STAFF MEMBER WHO GOES TO THE SCHOOL VISIT AND IS ABLE TO WRITE A SUMMARY.

>> YES, THAT WILL BE FOR THE SUPPORT FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM AS

WELL. >> THAT WOULD BE PERFECT.

>> THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE BOARD PACKET?

>> YES. >> PART OF THE CHALLENGE I HAD, I DID IT FOR FOR MY FIRST TWO SCHOOL VISITS AND TO KEEP THAT UP, YOU START TO LOSE THE CAPACITY TO DO SO.

HAVING STAFF DEDICATED TO PUT THAT SUMMARYTOGETHER WILL BE

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>> I'M TRYING TO RECALL BACK A FEW MEETINGS.

WE HAD THE PRESENTATION ON - -. IT WASN'T A FORMAL SCHOOL VISI , WE HAVE ALSO STUDENTS PARTICIPATE IN OUTSIDE SCHOOL ORGANIZATION EVENTS. WHETHER IT IS LOCAL THEATER GROUPS, LOCAL SPORTS ASSOCIATIONS.

THE STUDENTS HAVE EXCELLED AND GONE TO NATIONALS.

BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SCHOOL TEAMS, IT WOULD NOT FALL UNDER THIS CATEGORY. THEY WERE GOING TO BE ALL STARS NATIONALLY IN A CRICKET COMPETITION.

THIS WOULD NOT FALL UNDER THAT. I THINK WE ARE TRYING TO PRESCRIBE A NARROW FOCUS, AND I DON'T THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE.

>> TECHNICALLY, THOSE COULD FALL UNDER COMMUNITY.

THE LAST SECTION FOR BOARD COMMENTS WOULD BE LABELED AS COMMITTEE UPDATES. AS WE ALL ALL ASSIGNED TO TWO COMMITTEES, WE WILL BE MEETING REGULARLY AND THE EXPECTATION OUR POLICY IS FOR THE BOARD TO REPORT BACK, THE BOARD MEMBER, TO REPORT BACK TO THE REST OF THE BOARD, UPDATES.

IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A BUILT-IN AREA AND OUR AGENDA TO WHICH WE WOULD PROVIDE THOSE UPDATES.

I THINK THERE IS VALUE IN POTENTIALLY DISCUSSING WHETHER OR NOT WRITTEN UPDATES WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

SITTING THROUGH ALL THIS UPDATES WOULD BE A VERY LONG SECTION OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS. SO POTENTIALLY, WE COULD DISCUSS DOING A WRITTEN UPDATE, AND THAT THERE SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR OR BOARD MEMBER COMPANY TO SHARE VERBALLY IN THE BOARD MEETING UPDATE, THEY COULD SPEAK TO THAT.

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> YES, THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.

YES, I ALSO SHARE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS TURNING INTO ANOTHER MEETING WITHIN A MEETING. THE PROBLEM IS, WE GIVE UP OUR MEMBER A MICROPHONE THEY WILL START TALKING.HE GAVE THE BOARD MEMBER AND AGENDA ITEM WITH THEIR NAME ON IT.

I SHARE AN INTEREST IN TRYING TO THINK OF A WAY OF HAVING WRITTEN UPDATES PROVIDED IN THE BOARD PACKET.

>> I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A QUARTERLY THING AS OPPOSED TO A

MONTHLY THING. >> OR A TIME LIMIT.

ONE MINUTE PER COMMITTEE. >> A MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEES

ARE NOT MONTHLY. >> I THINK MOST ARE MONTHLY.

>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THE ANALYSIS ON HIS PART.

IF YOU'RE THINKING OF HOW YOU WOULD STREAMLINE THAT COMPONENT

WOULD BE VALUABLE. >> I WOULD OFFER THAT THERE ARE SUBCOMMITTEES WOULD PROBABLY SERVE TO HAVE COMMUNITY UPDATES MORE CONSISTENTLY. I WILL START OFF WITH THOSE THAT MAY HAVE GREATER INTEREST A POTENTIALLY FAIR COMMUNITIES THAT MAY FEEL MORE IMPACTED. COMMUNITY RESOURCE OFFICERS AND CONNECTORS. IT FEELS LIKE THAT'S A GOOD ONE TO ON AN ONGOING BASIS PROVIDE AN UPDATE AROUND.

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I THINK HE COULD PLAY OUT WHERE THEY ARE IN SUBSTANTIVE UPDATES FOR EVERY MEETING AND THERE ARE SOME WE SHOULD PROBABLY PROVIDE

AN UPDATE ANYTIME THERE IS ONE. >> I THINK THE GOAL OF TRYING TO STRUCTURE OUR COMMENTS SECTION WAS TO TRYING TO FIND A PLACE WHERE ANY COMMENTS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO THE WORK OF THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER BUT HAVE ITS PLACE.THAT IS DEDICATED TIME. THIS IS OUR INITIAL ATTEMPT AT TRYING TO STRUCTURE OUR COMMENTS SECTION SO THAT IT IS RELEVANT TO THE WORK WE ARE DOING AND THESCHOOL DISTRICT .

I THINK MOVING FORWARD, WE CAN ALWAYS REVISIT CHANGE AND ADAPT. ONE AREA THAT IS MISSING HERE IS OUR STUDENT REP COMMENTS. THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM THEM THUS FAR AT A JUNCTURE IS THAT THEY DON'T WANT THEIR OWN SECTION FOR STUDENT REP COMMENTS.

IT IS OKAY FOR US TO REMOVE THE AT THIS POINT.

I APPRECIATE ANY FEEDBACK, IF THERE IS ANY TOPIC OR IF THERE IS A CONCERN AROUND A COMMENT YOU WANT TO MAKE BUT IT DOES NOT FALL IN THESE CATEGORIES, OPEN TO DISCUSSION ABOUT FINDING THE RIGHT PLACES FOR THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN.

THE ONE CONCERN THAT I HAVE WHEN I WAS CREATING THESE CATEGORIES ARE THINKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, WAS A LOT OF TIMES DURING BOARD COMMENTS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOARD TO RESPOND TO SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE DURING THE BOARD MEETING. THAT IS ONE SECTION THAT IS POTENTIALLY MISSING. WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENT. IT POTENTIALLY IS ALSO NOT THE RIGHT TIME FOR US TO BE RESPONDING TO PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, OR IF IT IS NOT, IS AN OPERATIONAL, WHICH IT USUALLY IS.

I AM ALREADY THINKING ABOUT THAT AND TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE ADDRESS THAT. I WILL SAY, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH DOCTOR JON HOLMEN ABOUT HOW WE RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS IN GENERAL, AND CREATING A PROCESS OR PROTOCOL FOR THE DISTRICT TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

NOT SURE IF YOU ARE TO SPEAK TO THE AT ALL.

THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE PROCESS THAT WORKS FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?

ERIC? >> THE OTHER THINGS TO THINK ABOUT IS OFTEN THERE ARE ITEMS THAT COME UP AT THE BOARD MEETING, USUALLY THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT.

SOMETIMES, JUST IN THE GENERAL DISCUSSION.

I WONDER WHETHER THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

THAT IS THE OTHER COMPONENT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT AND REFLECT ON MY OWN USE OF BOARD MEMBER COMMENT, IT IS OFTEN UNDISCIPLINED RAMBLING. THE TIMES WERE I THINK IT HAS BEEN USEFUL IS AT THE TIME IT LEAVES MY SITUATION ASKING FOR FOLLOW-UP. THAT IS AN INTEREST, I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION TO IT RIGHT NOW.

>> I WILL THROW SOMETHING ELSE OUT THAT I WILL HAVE A SOLUTION TO EITHER.JUST AS A VERY RECENT COMMUNITY MEMBER, IT CAN BE VERY CHALLENGING, KNOWING THAT SOMETIMES THINGS WERE

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SOMETIMES I WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE MY WHOLE LIFE TAKEN UP WITH THAT. IT WAS UNPREDICTABLE.

I DO NOT KNOW IF SOMETHING, SOMETIMES SOMETHING WOULD COME UP AGAIN AND I WOULD TALK WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO SAID I HEARD XYZ DURING THE PRESENTATION.

DID YOU HEAR DESTRUCTORS, HAPPY AND RELATED TO THAT? HAVING A PLACE TO RESPOND IDEALLY, ONE THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS COULD JUMP TO END THE VIDEO AFTERWARDS, OR JUST DECIDING THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE'REGOING TO DO .

I SOMETIMES DURING THE BOARD MEETING, SOMEONE WOULD BRING SOMETHING UP AND THEY WOULD COME UP IN THE BOARD MEETING.

THAT WAS VERY POWERFUL AS WELL. I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION, JUST

WANTED TO STATE THAT. >> I THINK THE PIECE OF HOW YOU BUILT, WHAT IS THAT RESPONSE TO WHAT HAPPENS IN THE BOARD MEETING? I JUST LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT IS THAT PROCESS? THE VALUE OF WHEN IT CAME UP DURING BOARD COMMENT WAS THEN THE SUPERINTENDENT IS WE HAVE THE FULL BOARD SAYING YES, THAT IS IMPORTANT OR NOT.

MIND GOING UP TO HIM AFTER THE FACT, HEY YOU KNOW? WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO END UP ON AN AGENDA ITEM? THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE WORK FOR STAFF TO DO.

THAT WOULD BE MY NEXT QUESTION. AS A BOARD MEMBER, IF THERE WAS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT I WANTED TO HAVE COME ON, WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? IF THERE WAS A CONCERN.

I UTILIZE BOARD, AS A PLACE. I AM NOT SURE.

WE TRIED TO STRUCTURE PUBLIC COMMENT AND IT DID NOT WORK FOR

US. >> I WILL HAVE A FINAL ANSWER FOR YOU, BUT I'M TALKING TO CABINET ABOUT IT ON MONDAY.

INCE WE HAVE STAFF IN THE ROOM, WE CAN HAVE SOME IN THE MOMENT FOLLOW-UP. EVERYBODY CEMENTS THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS, SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FOLLOW UP WITH THEM.

THERE WILL HAVE TO BE SOME DECISIONS MADE BY STAFF AS TO WHAT IS THAT FOLLOW-UP. THERE ARE TIMES WHERE PEOPLE BRING PUBLIC COMMENT AND IS ACTIONABLE AND YOU WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.AT TIMES, IT IS SOMETHING THAT IT IS AN OPINION OR A THOUGHT SOMEBODY HAS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. I WANT TO TALK WITH THEM ABOUT HOW DO WE DO THAT CONSISTENTLY AND WELL? SO THAT THERE IS AT LEAST FOLLOW-UP WITH THE BOARD KNOWS THERE IS FOLLOW-UP BEING TAKEN ON THE OPERATIONAL PIECE.

THERE'S ALSO VALUE IN THE BOARD BEING ABLE TO SAY PUBLICLY FOR FOLLOW-UP. THERE IS BENEFIT IN THAT.

WE CAN LAND ON THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THAT AS WELL.

>> WE DID POTENTIALLY TALK ABOUT ADDING IT TO THE THIRD CLOSING ITEM WHICH IS THE REVIEW OFTHE BOARD MEETING SCHEDULE . PERHAPS THAT IS A PLACE FOR BOARD MEMBERS COULD REQUEST FOR FUTURE STUDY SESSION BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FUTURE BOARD MEETING.

WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET CONSENSUS IN THE NEXT STUDY SESSION WHERE WE CAN FOLLOW-UP ON THIS TOPIC.

SO WE DISCUSSED THAT IS POTENTIALLY A PLACE FOR THAT.

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>> JOHN, TO POINT BUT HAVING THE STAFF RESPOND ON EMAIL, MY CONCERN IS THAT ONE PERSON, - - HE OR SHE MAY BE PUSHING THE CONCERNS FOR A LOT OF FOLKS. ONLY HAVING AN EMAIL RESPONSE ON THE SCHEDULE MIGHT IGNORE THOSE THAT THE SAME CONCERN.

IF THERE IS A WAY TO, NOT NECESSARILY IN THE SAME MEETIN , IT MAY REQUIRE LOOKING INTO TO SAY WOW, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA BUT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

THE OVERALL COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A RESPONSE SO IS

NOT AN INDIVIDUAL ISSUE. >> IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT THIRD AGENDA ITEM?

>> IS PROBABLY THE SPACE THAT A BOARD MEMBER CAN SPEAK, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE.

RIGHT NOW IT'S LITERALLY THE NEXT BOARD MEETING DATE.

IN. [INAUDIBLE].

>> AM NOT CLEAR ON THE DEFINITION OF IT.

IF IT TO REQUEST FEATURES AND ITEMS THEN YES, THAT MAKES SENSE. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE CIRCLING SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE BROAD, THERE WOULD ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO I DON'T KNOW, PROVIDE FOLLOW-UP ON OPERATIONAL ISSUES TOO.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE RIGHT PLACE.

WE CAN ALSO MERGE THESE TWO CONCEPTS TOGETHER TO ONE AGENDA ITEM. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONVERSATION ON FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.

IT'S TOO EASY TO TRAP. >> I BELIEVE THE BOARD'S POLICY STATES THAT THEPRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT WORK WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT TO SET THE AGENDA .I DO BELIEVE THAT IS THE WORK OF THE OVERALL BOARD. IN THAT, I BELIEVE BOARD MEMBERS WOULD BE SAYING I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN A STUDY SESSION ON X. THE PRESIDENT SAID TELL ME MORE ABOUT THAT.

EVERY STUDY SESSION WE HAVE WE ARE HERE ON A SATURDAY MORNING WERE TAKINGSOMETHING ELSE OFF . I DON'T THINK AT THAT POINT IN TIME THE DECISION IS BEING MADE, IT'STHE REQUEST .

THE OTHER AVENUE IS I WOULD LIKE A STUDY SESSION AND A GOOD WRITTEN FOLLOW-UP WHICH COULD ALSO SERVE THAT PURPOSE.

IT'S ALL ABOUT INFORMATION. >> I THINK REVIEW OF FUTURE

BOARD BUSINESS. >> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER ITEMS, THE PLAN IS TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSED AGENDA STRUCTURE FOR OUR SEPTEMBER 11 SCHOOL BOARD MEETING.

THERE WILL BE NO COMMITTEE UPDATE AS COMMITTEE UPDATES HAVE NOT STARTED. WE MIGHT JUST POST WHICH BOARD

MEMBERS ARE ON THE COMMITTEE. >> I WONDER IF THERE'S AN

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ALSO PEOPLE GET CONFUSED, I AM WATCHING - - HIGHLY CAPABLE DID WE UNDERSTAND THOSE ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT ROLES.

IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS LITTLE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME COMMUNITY EDUCATION THERE.

>> OKAY. IF THERE ARE NOOTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS , THEN FOLLOWING TODAY'S STUDY SESSION, WE HAVE A STUDY SESSION AND WERE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 11.

THERE ARE NO OTHER AGENDA ITEMS. SEPTEMBER 9

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